Sound of Water David Yun

Yo what up everyone - Happy New Year!
I've had this interview in the vault for a few months now and have finally come around to releasing it. Becoming a dad and a homeowner in the span of 2 months have really kept me away from podcasting, so I'm super pumped to finally get this one out.

For this episode, I brought on David Hayward, otherwise known as the "NakedPastor", to talk about spiritual deconstruction, spiritual abuse, and why he decided to leave the church after over 30 years serving in ministry. 

David is now a full-time artist who dubs himself as a "Graffiti artist on the walls of religion", focusing his art on challenging the status quo, deconstructing dogma, and promoting spiritual independence. 

He has a masters in theological studies from Gordon-Conwell theological seminary, as well as a diploma in religious studies and ministry from McGill university in Montreal. David started the NakedPastor blog in 2006, which analyses and critiques religion through his writings, art, and cartoons, and launched the Lasting Supper in 2012, an online resource site and community for the spiritually independent. His Instagram page has over 97,000 followers, and his art continues to inspire people all over the globe.

Hope y'all enjoy! Much love as always, and remember to stay hydrated.

- David

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Peter Lublink, the Executive Director of BethanyKids, shares the mission and vision of BethanyKids, a Christian charity that provides pediatric surgery, rehab services, and spiritual care in 7 countries across Africa. Peter also shares his thoughts on how the healthcare system in Africa compares to that of the USA and Canada (10:50), his journey to doing mission work in the Middle East (24:49), and why there is no differentiation in being a Christian and being a missionary (37:15).

BethanyKids relies heavily on donations for their operations. Just $200 can help pay for the surgery of a child in need of care and has the potential to transform lives across the continent. If you feel compelled to donate, please visit https://bethanykids.org/donate/ and give any amount that you are able. Thank you all so much for tuning in!

Stay cool, stay hydrated, and be like water

- David Yun

BK website: www.bethanykids.org

BK Instagram: @bethanykids.ig

SOW Instagram: @soundofwater.fm

Timestamps:

3:11 Peter has travelled to how many countries?!

6:11 What exactly does BethanyKids do?

10:50 The healthcare system in Africa

16:18 Challenges of fundraising for a Christian charity

21:56 Future vision of BethanyKids

24:49 Peter's journey to mission work in the Middle East

28:49 What the church's response to the Afghanistan crisis should be

35:55 Challenges of doing mission work in the Middle East

37:15 Being a Christian and being a missionary are synonymous

47:22 International travel is optional for the church, mission is not

53:01 People should give without wanting attention

56:01 Consistency in living out the gospel will bring others to Christ

60:41 Closing remarks

Yooo what is good! Your boys David and Josh are back from their hiatus with a brand new format, where they will be discussing more pointed topics. This episode's question: "Is Capitalism Compatible with Christianity?"

Christianity has had a long and intimate relationship with capitalism, but recently, more and more people are raising their concerns whether or not capitalism is the most ethical and effective system. David was especially interested in Josh's perspective as a Christian entrepreneur, and in this episode, the two discuss whether or not capitalism is morally compatible and consistent with the Christian faith.

Hope y'all enjoy!

Yo what is good everyone! We are back momentarily, out of hiatus, to talk about the #StopAsianHate movement. David and Josh brought on a special guest, Olivia Wong, to deconstruct the movement, discuss how the movement came to fruition, and ask the question, "is this just the next media narrative?"

Olivia Wong is a Chinese-American entrepreneur, senior partner of Prototype Thinking Labs, public speaker, award-winning humanitarian, and Miss Asian Global 2020! She brought some great insight into the movement, along with providing her unique experiences as an Asian-American woman in business.

With AAPI Heritage Month coming to a close (Happy AAPI Heritage Month by the way our Asian brothers and sisters!), and the movement seeming to already lose steam with the popular discourse, the Sound of Water podcast hopes to keep the conversation going with this brand new episode! Hope y'all enjoy.

Olivia's link to "Resources for the Asian American Community"

Time Stamps:

0:00 David bringing the HEAT with our new intro!!
1:55 Meet Olivia Wong!
5:29 Olivia's experiences with racism and hate as an Asian-American woman
14:17 Deconstructing the #StopAsianHate Movement
24:21 Was the Atlanta Spa shooting a hate crime?
31:45 David plays devil's advocate (Are we overlooking other issues?)
40:26 Validating the Asian American identity
47:35 Olivia's thoughts on how both Asians and non-Asians can help

Happy Martin Luther King Jr. Day! We are excited to bring you a surprise bonus episode featuring none other than Dr. Marcus “Goodie” Goodloe! Celebrating the anniversary edition of his classic book, “King Maker: Applying Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s Leadership Lessons in Working with Athletes and Entertainers, “Dr. Goodie joins David and Josh to delve into the life and legacy of the late Dr. King.

Dr. Goodie is an MLK scholar, and he drops some absolute gems in this interview. We’re proud to announce this as the closer for our second season of the Sound of Water Podcast. Hope y’all enjoy!

Purchase the Anniversary Edition of Dr. Goodie’s book, “King Maker: Applying Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s Leadership Lessons In Working With Athletes And Entertainers” here!

Time Stamps:

:08 Welcome back, Dr. Goodie!
3:49 Progress made since July 2020
5:53 Dr. Goodie’s thoughts on Biden/Harris
7:56 A Coalition of Conscience
10:24 A reminder of values that MLK championed
16:22 Lebron James’ impact on the election
21:51 FBI Surveillance of MLK
28:23 Does MLK’s personal life affect his legacy?
33:23 Is Donald Trump redeemable?
36:22 Separating faith and politics
43:09 The Social Gospel
47:13 History of inaction by the American church
51:24 The Power of Sankofa
55:39 The Power of Creativity
59:22 The Power of Dreaming
62:15 Closing thoughts

Our final guest of Season 2 is Jackie Faye aka "Drippy J"! Jackie is an Asian, female rapper and musician from Dallas, Texas. Jackie graduated with a Bachelors in Computer Science and Business, and is currently working as a full-time Strategy Consultant to eat and pay her bills. She started making music as early as high school, but officially debuted in 2018 with her two singles, "Right Place Wrong Time" and "Ling Ling." Jackie recently dropped a new single, "Jackie Faye Adventures", which is now streaming on all major platforms.

Tune in to hear Jackie describe her journey as a gay, Asian female navigating a black male dominated industry. Josh and David push Jackie to explore what inspires her to create music, how she finds confidence in her unique identity, how she continues to break stereotypes and barriers in her journey, and her layered views on religion in this thought-provoking season 2 finale!

*Make sure to listen to the end to hear Jackie's new single, "Jackie Faye Adventures" :)

**This interview includes explicit language

Jackie's Instagram: @gotjackie (https://www.instagram.com/gotjackie/)

Jackie's  performance at USC APASA (shoutout from Dumbfoundead!): https://youtu.be/PluSxnxs3BA

Jackie's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/gotjackiee 

Sound of Water website: www.soundofwater.fm

Sound of Water Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/soundofwater.fm/

Sound of Water Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/soundofwater

Time Stamps:

0:40 The Gift That Keeps on Giving
0:33 David fact checks his mother
1:39 My homeboy…my co-host…Josh
2:40 Welcome, Jackie Faye!
4:40 Jackie's passion for music
9:08 Turning music into a career
13:00 Shoutout from Dumbfoundead
15:41 Jackie's "it"
18:32 Building confidence through identity
25:52 The power of community as a musical artist
28:22 Anime and K-pop is cool now
30:38 Inspiration for Jackie's music style
35:23 Blending of musical genres
39:25 Paying homage to the OG's of hip hop
44:13 Being a lesbian, Asian female in the rap game
49:31 Female rappers objectifying themselves? (example: WAP)
53:30 Double standard for men and women
57:04 Jackie's religious journey
68:17 Josh's conversion to Christianity
70:29 Botham Jean
76:32 Reconciling homosexuality and religion
80:31 Civilly agreeing to disagree
81:52 Disagreements shouldn't affect how you love others
85:14 We've reached the peak of Sound of Water
90:28 Closing thoughts
91:37 Jackie Faye Adventures.mp3