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A radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.

Seeds And Their People Seeds And Their People

    • Society & Culture
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A radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.

    Ep. 6: Fish Pepper

    Ep. 6: Fish Pepper

    This episode is all about the Fish Pepper, an extremely flavorful, productive, and decorative variety that makes an excellent hot sauce. The white unripe fruit were used to flavor seafood dishes in the Black catering community of Baltimore in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Horace Pippin, the now-famed painter, shared this variety (and many others) with H. Ralph Weaver in the early 1940s in exchange for bee-sting therapy. Weaver's grandson (William Woys Weaver, who you will hear from in the second half of this episode) found the seeds in a baby food jar in his grandmother's deep freezer a couple decades later, many years after his grandfather's death, and was able to reintroduce them via Seed Savers Exchange.


    In this episode, you will hear from Xavier Brown from Soilful City in Washington DC who makes Pippin Sauce from fish peppers grown by black farmers and urban gardeners in the DC and Maryland areas (including Denzel Mitchell, who you will also hear from). Soilful City offers their seeds through Truelove Seeds. You will also hear from Michael Twitty, author of the Cooking Gene. See links to the work of each of the speakers below.


     


    SEED STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:


    Fish Pepper

    Buena Mulata Pepper


     


    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:


    Xavier Brown, January 2020


    Soilful City on Instagram: @soilful

    Soilful City: soilfulcitydc.wordpress.com

    Soilful City at Truelove Seeds


     


    Denzel Mitchell, January 2020


    Instagram: @fatherof5fivefifths

    Denzell Mitchell at Farm Alliance Baltimore

    futureharvestcasa.org/denzel-mitchell

    "Introducing Denzel Mitchell of Five Seeds Farm in Baltimore”- Afroculinaria Blog by Michael Twitty, 2012


     


    Dr. William Woys Weaver, August 2019


    Instagram: @roughwoodseeds, @williamwoysweaver

    Roughwood Seed Collection: www.roughwoodtable.org

    Signed copies of Heirloom Vegetable Gardening


     


    Michael Twitty, April 2019


    Instagram: @thecookinggene

    Buy The Cooking Gene Book: Amazon.com, Barnes & Noble

    Michael W. Twitty Facebook Page

    The Cooking Gene Facebook Page

    Michael W. Twitty on Twitter: @koshersoul

    www.Afroculinaria.com

    Article Owen wrote from this original interview [PDF]


     


    ABOUT:


    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.


    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio


     


    FIND OWEN HERE:


    Truelove Seeds


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    FIND CHRIS HERE:


    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden


     


    THANKS TO:


    Xavier Brown

    Denzel Mitchell

    William Woys Weaver

    Michael Twitty

    Horace Pippin

    Sara Taylor

    • 1 hr 12 min
    Ep 5: Rau Đay, Lalo, Saluyot, Ewedu, Molokhia

    Ep 5: Rau Đay, Lalo, Saluyot, Ewedu, Molokhia

    This episode is all about one plant with countless names: Molokhia (Corchorus olitorius). You may know it as Jute, Jew's Mallow, Egyptian Spinach, any of the names in the title of this episode, or as something else altogether! This plant is beloved throughout the world and so we talked to people whose roots are in Vietnam, Haiti, Philippines, Nigeria, Palestine, and Syria about how they grow, harvest, prepare, eat, and save seeds from this delicious, nutritious, healing, and slimy plant. You will hear many similarities and differences. One thing is clear: everyone holds it dear for the way the flavors, textures, and even the tedious plucking of leaves transports them back home.


     


    SEED STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:


    Palestinian Molokhia

    Palestinian Kusa Squash

    Francois Syrian Molokhia


     


    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:


    Lan Dinh and Soi Trinh, "Rau Ðay," March, 2020


    VietLead: vietlead.org

    Resilient Roots Farm on Instagram: @resilientrootsfarm

    Order Lan and VietLead's seeds, including Rau Den (Vietnamese Amaranth), Smooth Bitter Melon, and Lá Tía Tô (Vietnamese Perilla)!


     


    Chef Chris Paul, "Lalo," March 2020


    Instagram: @chrispaulchef

    Legim (Haitian Stew): tasteatlas.com/legim

    One Book, Many Voices Community Dinner, March 11, 2020


     


    Nick, "Saluyot," January 2020


    Philadelphia Seed Exchange

    Saluyot and Cleopatra


     


    Ruby Olisemeka, "Ewedu," March 2020


    Farm School NYC: farmschoolnyc.org

    Egusi

    Amala Flour

    Red Hook Farm: added-value.org

    Ruby's Teacher, Oríadé Ìp?`s?´lá Ajét?`lú - indigenous Yorùbá spiritual uses of Ewedu: oriade7.7network@gmail.com

    www.agloglob.com


     


    Anan Zahr "Mlukhiyie," February, 2020


    Anan's Musakhan and Sumac class at the Free Library of Philadelphia

    Anan Zahr Instagram: @ananzahr

    Anan's Mlukhiyie: click here to see a photo and description

    Seeds mentioned in this interview: 
    Palestinian Molokhia

    Palestinian Kusa Squash

    Lebanese Za'atar (Thyme)





     


    Hoda Mansour and her daughter Noor "Mloukhia," August, 2019


    Instagram: @ootybabo

    Visit to harvest at Truelove Seeds: see photos here


     


    Mason Harkrader, Bear Bottom Farm, "Molokhia," August, 2019


    Instagram: @bearbottomfarm

    Mother Earth Gardener, "A Taste of Home:" [PDF] or read online here

    François Selim Moussalli, 1923 - 2018, Obituary

    Francois Syrian Molokhia

    All Bear Bottom Farm's Syrian and Appalachian seeds at Truelove Seeds


     


    ABOUT:


    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.


    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio


     


    FIND OWEN HERE:


    Truelove Seeds


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    FIND CHRIS HERE:


    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden


     


    THANKS TO:


    Lan Dinh and Soi Trinh

    Chef Chris Paul

    Nick from the Seed Swap

    Farmer Ruby Olisemeka

    Anan and George Zahr

    Hoda Mansour and her children

    Mason Harkrader and Mo Wiley

    Sara Taylor

    • 27 min
    Ep. 4: Rufus and Demalda Newsome and Newsome Community Farms, Greenville, MS

    Ep. 4: Rufus and Demalda Newsome and Newsome Community Farms, Greenville, MS

    In this fourth episode, we talk with Chris’s parents Rufus and Demalda Newsome of Newsome Community Farms in Greenville, Mississippi at Christmas. While Rufus pulls seeds from cotton he talks about growing up at ten years old working in the cotton fields as a weed chopper, a hoe filer, and a water boy. While Demalda chops vegetables for the Christmas meal, she describes growing up harvesting fruits from neighborhood trees and beans from an overturned bean truck, and getting watermelons from the watermelon man. While she and Chris make tamales, we talk about how they’d always eat them with hot donuts in the Delta at Christmas, which brings us to talking about segregation and desegregation. She describes her advocacy and food sovereignty work with Newsome Community Farms, Community Food Security Coalition, and Food First. There’s a hidden track at the very end where Rufus opens his very first moringa pods (see the videos here) and the grandkids get to taste the seeds and the way they transform water, and we discuss seed maturity and storage, and the importance of eating good bacteria. 


    SEED AND FOOD STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:


    Cotton

    Mustard and Turnip Greens

    Tamales

    Moringa 


    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:


    Newsome Community Farms, by WhyHunger

    Demalda Newsome, Food First

    Food First

    An Introduction: Hot Tamales and the Mississippi Delta, Southern Foodways Alliance.

    The brutal murder of Emmett Till in Money, Mississippi, by the History Channel.

    Fannie Lou Hamer founds the Freedom Farm Cooperative in the Mississippi Delta, by SNCC. 


     


    ABOUT:


    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.


    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio


     


    FIND OWEN HERE:


    Truelove Seeds


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    FIND CHRIS HERE:


    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden


     


    THANKS TO:


    Rufus Newsome and Demalda Bolden Newsome

    Aunt Veronica

    Jala, Jacob, Amareion

    Sara Taylor


     


    PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT:


    Rufus Newsome


    Rufus Newsome:


    Years ago as a boy. Um, the field wasn't very far away from where we live. We lived in Mississippi, Greenville Mississippi. We lived on white people's land. They were called the Dominic's. They were pretty decent folks also. But we went to other people fields to pick and chop cotton. I can remember as a small child smelling that fresh cotton smell and I crave the smell now. But this cotton doesn't smell the same way it did 50 years ago. It's different. Doesn't have a smell at all. But, progress goes on.


    Owen Taylor:


    Do you remember the first times you smelled cotton and what was that like and where were you? What were you doing?


    Rufus Newsome:


    I was in the fields when I was about 10 years old. At that time I was chopping because I think people had stopped picking cotton. That was combines picking cotton then, but we still needed to chop the weeds between the rows and there weren't a lot of herbicides used on that time. So we had to chop the weeds and I can remember seeing maybe 60 or 70 people chopping cotton. It seemed like those rows were a hundred feet long, hot. And so we're chopping and the aroma of the cotton, the smell just rises from the cotton and the smell is all around. Every so often you stop and pull some cotton and just sniff it up your nostrils and then you'd go back to work.


    Owen Taylor:


    What does it smell like? Can you describe it to someone who's never smelled it before?


    Rufus Newsome:


    It was fresh smell. I mean it was fresh. Uh, it smell like fresh air. Beside that, I can't describe it though. It's just really fresh. Like after a new rain when the sun comes out and clears up, everything smells so fresh. Remind me of the wash. My mom used to wash outside and hang the clothes up on the line and once the sheets, the white sheets dried that aroma

    • 1 hr 46 min
    Ep. 3: Ira Wallace and Southern Exposure Seed Exchange

    Ep. 3: Ira Wallace and Southern Exposure Seed Exchange

    In this third episode, Ira Wallace from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange talks about her faves: collards and roselle. She also describes her life growing up, her work with southern and African Diasporic seeds and stories, and takes questions from Truelove Seeds apprentices (and adoring fans) Amirah Mitchell and Chris Keeve and from a visitor named Mimi.


     


    SEED STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:


    Collards

    Roselle


     


    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:


    Ira Wallace: Writer, Seed Saver, Educator

    Southern Exposure Seed Exchange

    Grow Great Vegetables in Virginia, by Ira Wallace

    Collards: A Southern Tradition from Seed to Table, by Edward H. Davis and John T. Morgan

    Farming While Black: Soul Fire Farm’s Practical Guide to Liberation on the Land, by Leah Penniman

    Black Urban Growers Conference


     


    ABOUT:


    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.


    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio


     


    FIND OWEN HERE:


    Truelove Seeds


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    FIND CHRIS HERE:


    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden


     


    THANKS TO:


    Ira Wallace and Gordon Sproule

    Sara Taylor

    Julia Aguilar, Althea Baird, Chris Keeve, Amirah Mitchell, and Zoe Jeka of Truelove Seeds

    Mimi Puga

    The voices of the youth and other staff of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram's Garden

    • 1 hr 9 min
    Ep. 2: Kristyn Leach and Namu Farm

    Ep. 2: Kristyn Leach and Namu Farm

    Welcome back to Seeds And Their People! In this second episode, Owen interviews his seed friend Kristyn about her Korean seed stories, her food, farming, and activist community, and our mutual love for Jewel in the Palace.


     


    SEED STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:


    Mugwort and Ungnyeo (Bear Woman)

    Better Chamoe Korean Melon

    38N Kkaennip (Korean Perilla)


     


    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:


    Kristyn Leach on Instagram 

    Namu Farm at Truelove Seeds

    Second Generation Seeds at Kitazawa Seed Co.

    Great Big Story (video documentary about Kristyn's work)

    Chuseok (Harvest Festival)

    Jewel in the Palace / Dae Jang Geum


     


    ABOUT:


    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.


    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio


     


    FIND OWEN HERE:


    Truelove Seeds


    Tumblr  |  Instagram  |  Twitter


     


    FIND CHRIS HERE:


    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden


     


    THANKS TO:


    Kristyn Leach

    Sara Taylor

    Laura Starecheski of Reveal

    Althea Baird, Amirah Mitchell, and Zoe Jeka of Truelove Seeds

    Adele, Elena, and Remy

    • 1 hr
    Ep. 1: Seeds And Their People - Meet Chris and Owen

    Ep. 1: Seeds And Their People - Meet Chris and Owen

    Welcome to Seeds And Their People! In our first episode, we share some seed stories that are important to us, our ancestors, and our story as partners in life and love. You'll hear about the Irish Lumper potato, the field pea, the Borlotto bean, and okra. We also share how cotton and apples helped bring us together.


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    SEED STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:


    Irish Lumper Potato

    Field Pea

    Borlotto Bean

    Okra 

    Cotton

    Apple


     


    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:


    William Woys Weaver and Roughwood Seed Collection

    2020 Seed Keeping Calendar

    Lasting of the Mohegans by Melissa Tantaquidgeon Zobel

    British slave ship image: Brookes

    The Cooking Gene by Michael W. Twitty

    Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged, and Profited from Slavery by Anne Farrow, Joel Lang, and Jenifer Frank

    Growing Food and Justice Initiative


     


    ABOUT:


    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.


    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio


     


    FIND OWEN HERE:


    Truelove Seeds


    Tumblr  |  Instagram  |  Twitter


     


    FIND CHRIS HERE:


    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden


     


    THANKS TO:


    Sara Taylor

    Rufus and Demalda Newsome of Newsome Community Farms

    Laura Starecheski of Reveal

    Autumn Brown of How to Survive the End of the World

    Tagan Engel of The Table Underground

    Verónica Bayetti Flores of Radio Menea

    Jonas Moody of The Raisin at the Hot Dog's End

    Althea Baird, Amirah Mitchell, and Zoe Jeka of Truelove Seeds

    • 41 min

Customer Reviews

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67 Ratings

67 Ratings

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My Impressions….

This podcast is very important and so interesting and informative. I so hope you are able to bring episodes to your audience. It’s refreshing to hear and understand the cultural ties to indigenous people, their foods and how the foods and seeds migrated with the people as they moved around the world. Please continue this important work. Thank you for sharing.

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What a fantastic and essential podcast!

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Beautiful and so informative!

The interviews are so personal, interesting, and full of appreciation for seeds and their people! They are a bit long for a podcast but I’m not complaining. They are rich and important episodes, each one!

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