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A radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.

Seeds And Their Peopl‪e‬ Seeds And Their People

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    • 5.0 • 57 Ratings

A radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.

    Ep. 6: Fish Pepper

    Ep. 6: Fish Pepper

    This episode is all about the Fish Pepper, an extremely flavorful, productive, and decorative variety that makes an excellent hot sauce. The white unripe fruit were used to flavor seafood dishes in the Black catering community of Baltimore in the late 1800s and early 1900s. Horace Pippin, the now-famed painter, shared this variety (and many others) with H. Ralph Weaver in the early 1940s in exchange for bee-sting therapy. Weaver's grandson (William Woys Weaver, who you will hear from in the second half of this episode) found the seeds in a baby food jar in his grandmother's deep freezer a couple decades later, many years after his grandfather's death, and was able to reintroduce them via Seed Savers Exchange.
    In this episode, you will hear from Xavier Brown from Soilful City in Washington DC who makes Pippin Sauce from fish peppers grown by black farmers and urban gardeners in the DC and Maryland areas (including Denzel Mitchell, who you will also hear from). Soilful City offers their seeds through Truelove Seeds. You will also hear from Michael Twitty, author of the Cooking Gene. See links to the work of each of the speakers below.
     
    SEED STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:
    Fish Pepper
    Buena Mulata Pepper
     
    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:
    Xavier Brown, January 2020
    Soilful City on Instagram: @soilful
    Soilful City: soilfulcitydc.wordpress.com
    Soilful City at Truelove Seeds
     
    Denzel Mitchell, January 2020
    Instagram: @fatherof5fivefifths
    Denzell Mitchell at Farm Alliance Baltimore
    futureharvestcasa.org/denzel-mitchell
    "Introducing Denzel Mitchell of Five Seeds Farm in Baltimore”- Afroculinaria Blog by Michael Twitty, 2012
     
    Dr. William Woys Weaver, August 2019
    Instagram: @roughwoodseeds, @williamwoysweaver
    Roughwood Seed Collection: www.roughwoodtable.org
    Signed copies of Heirloom Vegetable Gardening
     
    Michael Twitty, April 2019
    Instagram: @thecookinggene
    Buy The Cooking Gene Book: Amazon.com, Barnes & Noble
    Michael W. Twitty Facebook Page
    The Cooking Gene Facebook Page
    Michael W. Twitty on Twitter: @koshersoul
    www.Afroculinaria.com
    Article Owen wrote from this original interview [PDF]
     
    ABOUT:
    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.
    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio
     
    FIND OWEN HERE:
    Truelove Seeds
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    FIND CHRIS HERE:
    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden
     
    THANKS TO:
    Xavier Brown
    Denzel Mitchell
    William Woys Weaver
    Michael Twitty
    Horace Pippin
    Sara Taylor

    • 1 hr 12 min
    Ep 5: Rau Đay, Lalo, Saluyot, Ewedu, Molokhia

    Ep 5: Rau Đay, Lalo, Saluyot, Ewedu, Molokhia

    This episode is all about one plant with countless names: Molokhia (Corchorus olitorius). You may know it as Jute, Jew's Mallow, Egyptian Spinach, any of the names in the title of this episode, or as something else altogether! This plant is beloved throughout the world and so we talked to people whose roots are in Vietnam, Haiti, Philippines, Nigeria, Palestine, and Syria about how they grow, harvest, prepare, eat, and save seeds from this delicious, nutritious, healing, and slimy plant. You will hear many similarities and differences. One thing is clear: everyone holds it dear for the way the flavors, textures, and even the tedious plucking of leaves transports them back home.
     
    SEED STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:
    Palestinian Molokhia
    Palestinian Kusa Squash
    Francois Syrian Molokhia
     
    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:
    Lan Dinh and Soi Trinh, "Rau Ðay," March, 2020
    VietLead: vietlead.org
    Resilient Roots Farm on Instagram: @resilientrootsfarm
    Order Lan and VietLead's seeds, including Rau Den (Vietnamese Amaranth), Smooth Bitter Melon, and Lá Tía Tô (Vietnamese Perilla)!
     
    Chef Chris Paul, "Lalo," March 2020
    Instagram: @chrispaulchef
    Legim (Haitian Stew): tasteatlas.com/legim
    One Book, Many Voices Community Dinner, March 11, 2020
     
    Nick, "Saluyot," January 2020
    Philadelphia Seed Exchange
    Saluyot and Cleopatra
     
    Ruby Olisemeka, "Ewedu," March 2020
    Farm School NYC: farmschoolnyc.org
    Egusi
    Amala Flour
    Red Hook Farm: added-value.org
    Ruby's Teacher, Oríadé Ìp?`s?´lá Ajét?`lú - indigenous Yorùbá spiritual uses of Ewedu: oriade7.7network@gmail.com
    www.agloglob.com
     
    Anan Zahr "Mlukhiyie," February, 2020
    Anan's Musakhan and Sumac class at the Free Library of Philadelphia
    Anan Zahr Instagram: @ananzahr
    Anan's Mlukhiyie: click here to see a photo and description
    Seeds mentioned in this interview: 
    Palestinian Molokhia
    Palestinian Kusa Squash
    Lebanese Za'atar (Thyme)

     
    Hoda Mansour and her daughter Noor "Mloukhia," August, 2019
    Instagram: @ootybabo
    Visit to harvest at Truelove Seeds: see photos here
     
    Mason Harkrader, Bear Bottom Farm, "Molokhia," August, 2019
    Instagram: @bearbottomfarm
    Mother Earth Gardener, "A Taste of Home:" [PDF] or read online here
    François Selim Moussalli, 1923 - 2018, Obituary
    Francois Syrian Molokhia
    All Bear Bottom Farm's Syrian and Appalachian seeds at Truelove Seeds
     
    ABOUT:
    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.
    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio
     
    FIND OWEN HERE:
    Truelove Seeds
    Tumblr  |  Instagram  |  Twitter
     
    FIND CHRIS HERE:
    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden
     
    THANKS TO:
    Lan Dinh and Soi Trinh
    Chef Chris Paul
    Nick from the Seed Swap
    Farmer Ruby Olisemeka
    Anan and George Zahr
    Hoda Mansour and her children
    Mason Harkrader and Mo Wiley
    Sara Taylor

    • 27 min
    Ep. 4: Rufus and Demalda Newsome and Newsome Community Farms, Greenville, MS

    Ep. 4: Rufus and Demalda Newsome and Newsome Community Farms, Greenville, MS

    In this fourth episode, we talk with Chris’s parents Rufus and Demalda Newsome of Newsome Community Farms in Greenville, Mississippi at Christmas. While Rufus pulls seeds from cotton he talks about growing up at ten years old working in the cotton fields as a weed chopper, a hoe filer, and a water boy. While Demalda chops vegetables for the Christmas meal, she describes growing up harvesting fruits from neighborhood trees and beans from an overturned bean truck, and getting watermelons from the watermelon man. While she and Chris make tamales, we talk about how they’d always eat them with hot donuts in the Delta at Christmas, which brings us to talking about segregation and desegregation. She describes her advocacy and food sovereignty work with Newsome Community Farms, Community Food Security Coalition, and Food First. There’s a hidden track at the very end where Rufus opens his very first moringa pods (see the videos here) and the grandkids get to taste the seeds and the way they transform water, and we discuss seed maturity and storage, and the importance of eating good bacteria. 
    SEED AND FOOD STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:
    Cotton
    Mustard and Turnip Greens
    Tamales
    Moringa 
    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:
    Newsome Community Farms, by WhyHunger
    Demalda Newsome, Food First
    Food First
    An Introduction: Hot Tamales and the Mississippi Delta, Southern Foodways Alliance.
    The brutal murder of Emmett Till in Money, Mississippi, by the History Channel.
    Fannie Lou Hamer founds the Freedom Farm Cooperative in the Mississippi Delta, by SNCC. 
     
    ABOUT:
    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.
    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio
     
    FIND OWEN HERE:
    Truelove Seeds
    Tumblr  |  Instagram  |  Twitter
     
    FIND CHRIS HERE:
    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden
     
    THANKS TO:
    Rufus Newsome and Demalda Bolden Newsome
    Aunt Veronica
    Jala, Jacob, Amareion
    Sara Taylor
     
    PARTIAL TRANSCRIPT:
    Rufus Newsome
    Rufus Newsome:
    Years ago as a boy. Um, the field wasn't very far away from where we live. We lived in Mississippi, Greenville Mississippi. We lived on white people's land. They were called the Dominic's. They were pretty decent folks also. But we went to other people fields to pick and chop cotton. I can remember as a small child smelling that fresh cotton smell and I crave the smell now. But this cotton doesn't smell the same way it did 50 years ago. It's different. Doesn't have a smell at all. But, progress goes on.
    Owen Taylor:
    Do you remember the first times you smelled cotton and what was that like and where were you? What were you doing?
    Rufus Newsome:
    I was in the fields when I was about 10 years old. At that time I was chopping because I think people had stopped picking cotton. That was combines picking cotton then, but we still needed to chop the weeds between the rows and there weren't a lot of herbicides used on that time. So we had to chop the weeds and I can remember seeing maybe 60 or 70 people chopping cotton. It seemed like those rows were a hundred feet long, hot. And so we're chopping and the aroma of the cotton, the smell just rises from the cotton and the smell is all around. Every so often you stop and pull some cotton and just sniff it up your nostrils and then you'd go back to work.
    Owen Taylor:
    What does it smell like? Can you describe it to someone who's never smelled it before?
    Rufus Newsome:
    It was fresh smell. I mean it was fresh. Uh, it smell like fresh air. Beside that, I can't describe it though. It's just really fresh. Like after a new rain when the sun comes out and clears up, everything smells so fresh. Remind me of the wash. My mom used to wash outside and hang the clothes up on the line and once the sheets, the whi

    • 1 hr 46 min
    Ep. 3: Ira Wallace and Southern Exposure Seed Exchange

    Ep. 3: Ira Wallace and Southern Exposure Seed Exchange

    In this third episode, Ira Wallace from Southern Exposure Seed Exchange talks about her faves: collards and roselle. She also describes her life growing up, her work with southern and African Diasporic seeds and stories, and takes questions from Truelove Seeds apprentices (and adoring fans) Amirah Mitchell and Chris Keeve and from a visitor named Mimi.
     
    SEED STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:
    Collards
    Roselle
     
    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:
    Ira Wallace: Writer, Seed Saver, Educator
    Southern Exposure Seed Exchange
    Grow Great Vegetables in Virginia, by Ira Wallace
    Collards: A Southern Tradition from Seed to Table, by Edward H. Davis and John T. Morgan
    Farming While Black: Soul Fire Farm’s Practical Guide to Liberation on the Land, by Leah Penniman
    Black Urban Growers Conference
     
    ABOUT:
    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.
    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio
     
    FIND OWEN HERE:
    Truelove Seeds
    Tumblr  |  Instagram  |  Twitter
     
    FIND CHRIS HERE:
    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden
     
    THANKS TO:
    Ira Wallace and Gordon Sproule
    Sara Taylor
    Julia Aguilar, Althea Baird, Chris Keeve, Amirah Mitchell, and Zoe Jeka of Truelove Seeds
    Mimi Puga
    The voices of the youth and other staff of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram's Garden

    • 1 hr 9 min
    Ep. 2: Kristyn Leach and Namu Farm

    Ep. 2: Kristyn Leach and Namu Farm

    Welcome back to Seeds And Their People! In this second episode, Owen interviews his seed friend Kristyn about her Korean seed stories, her food, farming, and activist community, and our mutual love for Jewel in the Palace.
     
    SEED STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:
    Mugwort and Ungnyeo (Bear Woman)
    Better Chamoe Korean Melon
    38N Kkaennip (Korean Perilla)
     
    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:
    Kristyn Leach on Instagram 
    Namu Farm at Truelove Seeds
    Second Generation Seeds at Kitazawa Seed Co.
    Great Big Story (video documentary about Kristyn's work)
    Chuseok (Harvest Festival)
    Jewel in the Palace / Dae Jang Geum
     
    ABOUT:
    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.
    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio
     
    FIND OWEN HERE:
    Truelove Seeds
    Tumblr  |  Instagram  |  Twitter
     
    FIND CHRIS HERE:
    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden
     
    THANKS TO:
    Kristyn Leach
    Sara Taylor
    Laura Starecheski of Reveal
    Althea Baird, Amirah Mitchell, and Zoe Jeka of Truelove Seeds
    Adele, Elena, and Remy

    • 1 hr
    Ep. 1: Seeds And Their People - Meet Chris and Owen

    Ep. 1: Seeds And Their People - Meet Chris and Owen

    Welcome to Seeds And Their People! In our first episode, we share some seed stories that are important to us, our ancestors, and our story as partners in life and love. You'll hear about the Irish Lumper potato, the field pea, the Borlotto bean, and okra. We also share how cotton and apples helped bring us together.
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    SEED STORIES TOLD IN THIS EPISODE:
    Irish Lumper Potato
    Field Pea
    Borlotto Bean
    Okra 
    Cotton
    Apple
     
    MORE INFO FROM THIS EPISODE:
    William Woys Weaver and Roughwood Seed Collection
    2020 Seed Keeping Calendar
    Lasting of the Mohegans by Melissa Tantaquidgeon Zobel
    British slave ship image: Brookes
    The Cooking Gene by Michael W. Twitty
    Complicity: How the North Promoted, Prolonged, and Profited from Slavery by Anne Farrow, Joel Lang, and Jenifer Frank
    Growing Food and Justice Initiative
     
    ABOUT:
    Seeds And Their People is a radio show where we feature seed stories told by the people who truly love them. Hosted by Owen Taylor of Truelove Seeds and Chris Bolden-Newsome of Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden.
    trueloveseeds.com/blogs/satpradio
     
    FIND OWEN HERE:
    Truelove Seeds
    Tumblr  |  Instagram  |  Twitter
     
    FIND CHRIS HERE:
    Sankofa Community Farm at Bartram’s Garden
     
    THANKS TO:
    Sara Taylor
    Rufus and Demalda Newsome of Newsome Community Farms
    Laura Starecheski of Reveal
    Autumn Brown of How to Survive the End of the World
    Tagan Engel of The Table Underground
    Verónica Bayetti Flores of Radio Menea
    Jonas Moody of The Raisin at the Hot Dog's End
    Althea Baird, Amirah Mitchell, and Zoe Jeka of Truelove Seeds

    • 41 min

Customer Reviews

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57 Ratings

57 Ratings

Stellabarracuda ,

Beautiful and so informative!

The interviews are so personal, interesting, and full of appreciation for seeds and their people! They are a bit long for a podcast but I’m not complaining. They are rich and important episodes, each one!

Dfsteed ,

Great seed stories

This is such a great podcast. It is so wonderful to hear stories of seeds, the people who historically and currently grow them, and the places where they are doing it.

Laun Dorf ,

Love seeds and their people

This is a great podcast that contributes to decolonizing food thought and food ways in this country. I love the format. Looking forward to more episodes!

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