Shift Left Is Dead. Shift to AI.

The decade-long promise of "shift left" never delivered. Developers didn't become security engineers - and now the developer is often an agent.

In this episode of Shift to AI, host Roland Cloutier sits down with Bret Arsenault, CVP, CISO Emeritus and Global Chief Security Advisor at Microsoft, to unpack what happens when the perimeter moves from the app and the endpoint to the software factory itself: prompts, pipelines, MCP servers, and non-human identities.

Together they ask a question every security leader is now facing: what does AppSec actually mean when the entity writing, reviewing, and committing code isn't human? And what does it take to secure a software development lifecycle that never sleeps?

A candid, practitioner-level conversation on the future of application security, software supply chain risk, and agentic development - from two of the industry's most experienced security voices.

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