Statements of Intent David Mannheim

It’s the end of Season 1 already?! Well, if you happened to miss any episodes, or just didn’t have the time to watch them all, you’re in luck.
In this episode, host David Mannheim reflects on the key lessons and insights gained from the first season of the Statements of Intent podcast. He discusses the common themes that emerged across his conversations with eCommerce leaders, highlighting their shared desire to challenge the status quo and create more human-centric online experiences.
Topics Covered:
What’s wrong with conversion rateThe need for personalisation and genuine human connection in eCommerceMoving away from short-term metrics like conversion rate toward long-term customer relationshipsPractical tips for fostering customer intimacy at scaleKey Quotes:
"We crave some kind of intimacy, we need that within our lives. A website, an online experience, feels the antithesis of that feeling.""No one metric can capture the health of consumer and customer relationships.”“You don't need to attribute everything.”"Conversion rate is a lagging metric. And actually, it's the worst kind of metric because customers could fight tooth and nail and still convert if they are a fan.”Episode Chapters
00:00 Introduction01:38 What David Has Learned From This Podcast05:21 The Journey Towards Customer Centricity10:20 Redefining Success Metrics in eCommerce23:09 Final Thoughts23:57 Outro
Resources
Made With Intent's website → https://www.madewithintent.ai/Social Media
David's LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleemannheim/Made With Intent LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/madewithintent/?viewAsMember=trueYouTube → http://www.youtube.com/@madewithintent

In this episode, David Mannheim, founder of Made With Intent, advocates for a shift away from optimising for conversion metrics and page templates. Towards truly understanding and catering to each buyer's individual journey and mindset - what he calls "stages, not pages."
Topics Covered:
Reasons why retailers tend think in pages not stagesWhy retailers should think in buying stages over website pages.What is personalisationWhy personalisation failsDavid's solution to create more appropriate and impactful experiencesKey Quotes:
"We focus on the 2% that are going to convert and ignore the needs of the other 98%.""We optimize how we want to sell, not how people actually want to buy.""Location is not a good indication of when or how a customer will buy.""When you understand the buying stage, you can tailor your sales pitch. You meet users at the intersection of how they want to purchase.""Conversion rate is a method of selling, while buying stages reflect how people actually buy."Episode Chapters
00:00 Templates00:00 Introduction01:41 David's Statement: Stages Not Pages03:11 Why Retailers Focus on Page Templates10:06 Why Retailers Resist Implementing Personalisation16:12 The Solution22:02 Outro
Resources
Made With Intent’s website → https://www.madewithintent.ai/Social Media
David's LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleemannheim/Made With Intent LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/madewithintent/?viewAsMember=trueYouTube → www.youtube.com/@madewithintent

In this episode of Statements of Intent, host David Mannheim talks to Johnny Longden, Group Digital Director at Boohoo, about the pressures faced by eCommerce companies and how a myopic focus on metrics can undermine the customer experience. They discuss the need to balance short-term business goals with long-term customer needs and nurturing loyalty beyond just conversion rates.
Jonny has years of experience building and scaling experimentation strategies from scratch for large businesses like Visa Europe, Sky, and Journey Further. He has practiced innovation in analytics and testing/experimentation, and knows all about how to marry this with KPI performance.
Topics Covered:
The difference in pressures between agency and client-side rolesShort-term business pressures vs building long-term customer loyaltyThe pitfalls of over-relying on metrics like conversion ratesUnderstanding and optimising for the customer's intent and experienceMoving beyond metrics to a more holistic view of customer behaviourKey Quotes:
“I’m not a toilet seat addict.”"Conversion rate is a good example where you can do something to increase conversion rate and you would successfully increase conversion rate, but that would have a detrimental impact on your entire business and you would never know.""We need to move to understanding more of the total systems that govern how people behave and interact.”"Imagine if you try to sort of optimise your friendship with one of your friends through metrics, you know, you wouldn't do it, would you? It just would be really, really weird."Episode Chapters
00:00 Introduction00:49 Guest Intro: Johnny Longden03:23 The Pressure In Retail vs. Agency05:55 Short-Term Pressures vs. Long-Term Customer Needs08:54 Stop Over-Relying on Metrics17:18 Customer Intent and Experience21:35 Jonny's Statement of Intent: Data and Tech vs Customers22:43 Outro
Social Media
Jonny's LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonnylongden/Made With Intent LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/madewithintent/?viewAsMember=trueYouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@madewithintent

In this episode, David Mannheim chats to Tim Ryan, Director of Digital at Seasalt, about his thoughts on how eCommerce has evolved over the past 15 years - both the good and the bad. He emphasises the importance of driving relevance over pure personalisation and making online shopping experiences as frictionless as possible for customers.
Tim has over 16 years experience working in eCommerce for brands like The Walt Disney Company, Direct Line Group, Lidl GB, Karen Millen… The list goes on! Tim has a wealth of skills from digital marketing and SEO to product strategy. If anyone knows how to maximise sales onsite, it’s him.
Topics Covered:
How eCommerce has changed, from a lack of personalisation to assumptions based on limited dataThe balance between personalisation and allowing customer choiceUsing data to become a customer-led businessThe limitations of broad customer personasKey Quotes:
"Personalisation is only as good as the on-site journey the relevance that you're actually pushing through, so it can't just be personalising a bit of content or product offering.”"You want the customer to be able to choose things, otherwise everyone would just push all their money through PMAX driving customers to a random product.”"It's about making the journey as frictionless and relevant as possible. It's not just about purchase, it's about understanding the customer's drivers.”Episode Chapters
00:00 Introduction01:09 Guest Intro: Tim Ryan04:25 How eCommerce Has Changed Over 15 Years09:56 Pro or Anti Personalisation?13:24 Tim's Statement: Driving Relevance Over Personalisation19:07 Tim's Personalisation Experience And Advice22:37 Outro
Social Media
Tim's LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/tryan1/Made With Intent LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/madewithintent/?viewAsMember=trueYouTube → https://www.youtube.com/@madewithintent

In this episode, David Mannheim sits down with Martin Sheerin, Director of Digital Product at N Brown Group.
Martin explains how brands will gain more reward by prioritising decisions based on customer needs rather than lagging metrics like conversion.
After working for brands like Moneysupermarket, The Co-operative Bank, and Phones4u, Martin has over 16 years of expertise in eCommerce, user experience, and conversion rate optimisation. In this time, he has not only transformed businesses but also fostered teams to excel in creating innovative digital products and touchpoints that significantly improve customer journeys.
Topics Covered:
Martin’s role as a Director of Digital Products at N Brown GroupUnderstanding the difference between leading and lagging metricsThe importance of customer-centric testing and optimisationN Brown's "Run, Grow, Transform" model for balancing short and long-term goalsAdvice for how to keep the customer at the heart of business decisionsKey Quotes:
"If you think about customers as numbers, you'll drive the number up now, but it's very short-lived.""We're not only looking at the sale, but the whole loop - before you come to our websites through to how do I make you want to make a second purchase with us?""If you just do conversion optimisation, you'd minimise the content and push people through. What we found was by making it a slightly longer process and helping people understand the product, we got more sign-ups and retained more customers."Episode Chapters
00:00 Introduction01:06 Guest Introduction: Martin Sheeran01:43 The Role of a Director of Digital Products03:36 Understanding Leading vs. Lagging Metrics06:41 The Importance of Customer-Centric Testing17:15 The Three-Speed Model: Run, Grow, Transform24:20 Martin's Advice For Other eComm Leaders28:18 Outro
Resources
‘A Brief History of Netflix Personalization’ by Gibson Biddle → https://gibsonbiddle.medium.com/a-brief-history-of-netflix-personalization-1f2debf010a1

In this episode, David is joined by Matthew Gratze, Director of Customer at Signet Jewellers.
Matthew shares his perspective on the importance of being relevant to each customer's unique shopping journey and how to deliver personalised, contextual experiences.
Matthew holds experience across several sectors from baby & child to jewellery. His leadership in driving major business transformations and digital strategies for brands like Halfords, Ann Summers, and Mothercare has earned him a spot on The Retail Week Etail Power List 2016 top 50.
Topics Covered:
The lessons Matthew learned about customer-centricity during his time at AppleBalancing the pressures of new customer acquisition versus retention strategiesMaking experiences relevant and appropriate to each unique customer journey and missionWhy relevance trumps one-size-fits-all marketingKey Quotes:
"If you can design a journey or a product or a mission perfectly with the customer in mind, it's very difficult to go wrong from that stance.""How do you become more relevant for each of those shopping journeys or shopping missions? That's where retailers could really win.""Being relevant is about how we become more relevant for that shopping experience there and then based on signals, browsing intents, etc.”"We get stuck with short-term views and try to fix very small things rather than looking at the bigger picture."Episode Chapters
00:00 Introduction01:16 Guest Introduction: Matthew Gratze03:21 Matthew's Lessons In Selling13:18 Balancing Acquisition vs. Retention17:38 Matthew's Statement: Be Relevant23:12 Matthew's Last Words23:46 Outro
Social Media
Matthew’s LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewgratze/Made With Intent LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/madewithintent/?viewAsMember=trueYouTube → www.youtube.com/@madewithintent