40 min
Suicidal Therapists: An interview with Norine Vander Hooven, LCSW The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy
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An interview with Norine Vander Hooven, LCSW about therapists who become suicidal. Curt and Katie interview Norine on the risk factors that therapists face as well as how we can support each other in our community. We talk about prevention, interventions with a colleague, and how to manage when a colleague dies by suicide.
It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.
To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.
Interview with Norine Vander Hooven, LCSW
Norine Vander Hooven is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and has been in practice for 32 years. She specializes in trauma, anxiety, suicide prevention, and life transitions. Norine is also certified in EMDR therapy, and is in training to be an EMDR therapy consultant. She uses this to work with people with PTSD, anxiety, and traumatic life events. Norine provides clinical consultation for therapists, as well as she works with young adults and adults in her private practice. Learn more at norinevanderhooven.com
In this episode we talk about:
Following up on a previous episode, Therapist Suicide.
Looking at supervisors who have died by suicide
The lack of research and data regarding therapist suicide (both ideation and completion)
The fear and stigma about disclosing suicidal ideation and attempts for therapists
The difference between therapists and others in suicide risk
Heightened risk factors for therapists
How therapists take in the work with their clients
The isolation and lack of support that can happen with therapists
Suggestions for therapists to address suicidal thoughts, isolation, loneliness
Belonging, Burden, and Capability
The importance of community and consultation
The suggestion to be in your own therapy
Incorporating self-care even down to the small moments during the work day
How to incorporate knowledge about the challenge of the profession into our educational system
The shame therapists feel (both perceived and actual) about mental health challenges
How to support therapists who might be experiencing suicidal thoughts
How to provide therapy to therapists, incorporating conversations and assessment about suicide from the beginning, normalizing the experience and challenge of being a therapist
Supporting therapists in our community
Planning for postvention – comprehensive conversations after therapists have clients die by suicide or other big events in our colleagues’ lives
The importance of normalizing the feelings that therapists could be presenting with in consultation groups
What can we do when one of our colleagues die by suicide
The typical reactions and responses from colleagues, clients, and community members
Preparing to have a conversation with a client whose therapist has died by suicide
An interview with Norine Vander Hooven, LCSW about therapists who become suicidal. Curt and Katie interview Norine on the risk factors that therapists face as well as how we can support each other in our community. We talk about prevention, interventions with a colleague, and how to manage when a colleague dies by suicide.
It’s time to reimagine therapy and what it means to be a therapist. We are human beings who can now present ourselves as whole people, with authenticity, purpose, and connection. Especially now, when therapists must develop a personal brand to market their practices.
To support you as a whole person and a therapist, your hosts, Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy talk about how to approach the role of therapist in the modern age.
Interview with Norine Vander Hooven, LCSW
Norine Vander Hooven is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker and has been in practice for 32 years. She specializes in trauma, anxiety, suicide prevention, and life transitions. Norine is also certified in EMDR therapy, and is in training to be an EMDR therapy consultant. She uses this to work with people with PTSD, anxiety, and traumatic life events. Norine provides clinical consultation for therapists, as well as she works with young adults and adults in her private practice. Learn more at norinevanderhooven.com
In this episode we talk about:
Following up on a previous episode, Therapist Suicide.
Looking at supervisors who have died by suicide
The lack of research and data regarding therapist suicide (both ideation and completion)
The fear and stigma about disclosing suicidal ideation and attempts for therapists
The difference between therapists and others in suicide risk
Heightened risk factors for therapists
How therapists take in the work with their clients
The isolation and lack of support that can happen with therapists
Suggestions for therapists to address suicidal thoughts, isolation, loneliness
Belonging, Burden, and Capability
The importance of community and consultation
The suggestion to be in your own therapy
Incorporating self-care even down to the small moments during the work day
How to incorporate knowledge about the challenge of the profession into our educational system
The shame therapists feel (both perceived and actual) about mental health challenges
How to support therapists who might be experiencing suicidal thoughts
How to provide therapy to therapists, incorporating conversations and assessment about suicide from the beginning, normalizing the experience and challenge of being a therapist
Supporting therapists in our community
Planning for postvention – comprehensive conversations after therapists have clients die by suicide or other big events in our colleagues’ lives
The importance of normalizing the feelings that therapists could be presenting with in consultation groups
What can we do when one of our colleagues die by suicide
The typical reactions and responses from colleagues, clients, and community members
Preparing to have a conversation with a client whose therapist has died by suicide
40 min