
72 episodes

Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast Glenn Hinds & Sebastian Kaplan
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4.9 • 89 Ratings
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Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing podcast, hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.
Glenn Hinds is a registered counsellor living in Derry, N. Ireland. He worked as a drug therapist and senior social work practitioner in mental health and alcohol and drug services, from 1990 until 2008, when he created Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants (https://www.glennhinds.com) developing and delivering bespoke training workshops to health, social care, education, criminal justice and human resource practitioners and managers across the UK, Ireland and USA. He has been a member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2003 and has completed Motivational Interviewing Training Integrity (MITI) and Motivational Interviewing Supervisory Training (MIST) training and has written the Motivational Interviewing module for Ulster University Foundation Degree.
Sebastian G. Kaplan, PhD, is an associate professor in the Departments of Psychiatry (Child and Adolescent Section) and Family and Community Medicine at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, NC, USA. Sebastian is a former special education teacher, who currently provides individual and family psychotherapy, primarily with adolescents and young adults, struggling with a variety of life challenges. Sebastian has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2008. He provides training and consultation in MI for a variety of regional and national audiences. Sebastian is a co-author of “Motivational Interviewing in Schools: Conversations to Improve Behavior and Learning.” (Guilford Press 2016). Sebastian is also a co-developer of “Motivational Interviewing with Adolescents: A Four-Video Series” (http://www.psychotherapy.net/video/mi-adolescents).
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Motivational Interviewing & Grief
Motivational Interviewing & Grief
Dr. M. Katherine Shear is the Marion E. Kenworthy Professor of Psychiatry and the founding Director of the Center for Prolonged Grief at Columbia University School of Social Work. Dr. Shear is a clinical researcher who first worked in anxiety and depression. For the past 25 years, she has focused on understanding and treating people who experience persistent, intense grief, which is now an official diagnosis called Prolonged Grief Disorder in the ICD-11 and DSM-5. She developed and tested Complicated Grief Therapy/Prolonged Grief Disorder Therapy, a short-term, strength-based intervention that helps foster adaptation to loss and confirmed its efficacy in three large NIMH-funded studies.
Dr. Shear is widely recognized for her work in bereavement, including both research and clinical awards from the Association for Death Education and Counseling and invited authorship of articles for Uptodate and the New England Journal of Medicine. Her work includes more than 330 peer-reviewed publications. She’s developed several widely used assessment instruments and a PGDT instruction manual.
Dr. Shear received a BS in biology with honors from the University of Chicago and an MD from Tufts University Medical School. She completed residencies in Internal Medicine and Psychiatry and a psychosomatic fellowship before beginning her clinical research career.
Episode index:
00:00 – Introduction and episode preview
04:40 – Dr. Shear’s early MI story
12:00 – What is grief? Why do we experience it? Why does it change over time?
17:17 – What are we losing when a loved one dies?
26:18 – Adaptation after loss
32:15 – The six healing milestones
56:45 – The experience of the practitioner: Self-care and self-compassion
1:02:30 – Sudden vs. expected loss
1:07:08 – Dr. Shear’s work around grief in the African-American community
1:11:16 – End of episode
Links and contact information:
Websites:
https://prolongedgrief.columbia.edu/
https://hospicefoundation.ie/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
* ChangeTalking
* Glenn Hinds
* Sebastian Kaplan
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Transtheoretical Model Stages of Change & MI
Transtheoretical Model Cycle of Change & MI
Glenn and Sebastian were excited to have Mary Marden Velasquez, PhD, on the podcast to discuss the Transtheoretical Model, including the Stages of Change. Dr. Velasquez is Centennial Professor in Leadership for Community, Professional and Corporate Excellence, Director of the Health Behavior Research and Training Institute (HBRT), and former Associate Dean for Research (2006-2013) at The University of Texas at Austin Steve Hicks School of Social Work. She also holds appointments in the Department of Population Health and Psychiatry at UT-Austin’s Dell Medical School. Prior to moving to UT-Austin to become Associate Dean for Research, Dr. Velasquez served on the research faculty in the Psychology Department at the University of Houston and as tenured faculty and Director of Research in Family and Community Medicine at the UT McGovern Medical School in Houston. Her program of research focuses on the development and implementation of interventions using the Transtheoretical Model and Motivational Interviewing. With over 30 years of continued support from the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Velasquez has developed and studied behavioral interventions in the areas of integrated primary care, screening and brief interventions, fetal alcohol spectrum disorder, alcohol and other drug abuse, prenatal health, HIV prevention, and smoking cessation. A current emphasis is on teaching graduate students and health professionals to work in interdisciplinary teams and to use brief motivational interventions in medical settings.
Dr. Velasquez recently completed a four-year term as a study section member on the NIH-Center for Scientific Review “Interventions to Prevent and Treat Addictions” (IPTA). She is an internationally recognized trainer in the Transtheoretical Model and Motivational Interviewing and is a member of the international Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers
Episode index:
00:00 – Introduction and episode preview
05:37 – Mary’s early TTM and MI story
17:50 – The 10 Processes of Change
21:21 – Experiential Process #1: Consciousness raising
24:08 – Experiential Process #2: Emotional arousal
26:21 – Experiential Process #3: Self-evaluation
28:57 – Experiential Process #4: Environmental re-evaluation
30:52 – Experiential Process #5: Social liberation
33:31 – The Stages of Change
39:35 – Experiential processes linked to long-term change
47:25 – Behavioral Process #1: Stimulus control
48:13 – Behavioral Process #2: Counter conditioning
49:23 – Behavioral Process #3: Reinforcement management
51:01 – Behavioral Process #4: Self-liberation
52:09 – Behavioral Process #5: Helping relationships
55:05 – Applying the model flexibly
1:00:35 – The stages of change and MI: The “kissing cousins”
1:02:25 – Decisional balance and self-efficacy
1:10:43 – Temptation
1:12:25 – Spending time with giants in the field
1:16:57 – End of episode
Links and contact information:
Study cited in episode:
Stotts AL, DiClemente CC, Carbonari JP, Mullen PD. Pregnancy smoking cessation: a case of mistaken identity. Addict Behav. 1996 Jul-Aug;21(4):459-71. doi: 10.1016/0306-4603(95)00082-8. PMID: 8830904.
Book cited in episode: https://www.guilford.com/books/Group-Treatment-for-Substance-Abuse/Velasquez-Crouch-Stephens-DiClemente/9781462523405
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Therapeutic Humour Part II
Therapeutic Humor – Part II
Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Mallori DeSalle, MA, LMHC, NCC, CMHC, MATS, CPS, CHP and Lodge McCammon, PhD on the podcast to discuss therapeutic humor (Listen to episode 21 with Mallori for part I on this topic). Mallori is a licensed mental health counselor, an internationally certified prevention specialist, motivational interviewing trainer and a certified humor professional. As a speaker and trainer, she has sparked curiosity in both the young and young-at-heart. Her passion for creating a lasting impact led her to the public health field and for the past 15 years she has worked at Prevention Insights, a center within the School of Public Health at Indiana University, Bloomington. Mallori works with people all over the world. She served on the Board of Directors for the Association for Applied and Therapeutic Humor and in 2021 became a TEDx speaker. Her credentials don’t impress her family, but occasionally her corny jokes do make them laugh.
Dr. Lodge McCammon is a therapeutic humorist, instructional designer, author, musician, and international education consultant who provides professional services, including keynote speeches, workshops, curriculum development, and a variety of training programs. He works with school districts, universities, nonprofits, and businesses (e.g., Palm Beach Schools, University of the West Indies, Discovery Education, Microsoft, Amazon, The Coca-Cola Company). Most recently, Lodge facilitated a month of therapeutic humor for the Nourished Teachers Community, which is a Facebook-funded initiative focused on helping educators cope with work stress and avoid burnout. He uses a program that he designed called “Laugh It Off!” to help his clients transform their daily frustrations into humor.
Episode index:
00:00 – Introduction and episode preview
03:39 – Lodge’s introduction and how he and Mallori came to work together
09:00 – Evoking with humor
13:00 – What is humor?
17:00 – An invitation to see a situation in a new way
26:00 – Absurdity training
28:10 – Renaming exercise
34:45 – Finding the absurd from an expected response
40:52 – “I am now ___ years old”
48:25 – The portability of therapeutic humor
54:40 – How to introduce a humorous intervention with permission
1:01:10 – Future trainings and applying therapeutic humor with couples
1:05:20 – Seb’s story applying therapeutic humor in group therapy with adolescents
1:11.21 – End of episode
Links and contact information:
Mallori
Website: www.malloridesalle.com
Email: malloridesalle@gmail.com
Lodge
Website: www.lodgemccammon.com
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
* ChangeTalking
* Glenn Hinds
* Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
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Common Questions about MI
Common Questions about MI
Glenn and Sebastian were excited to welcome David B. Rosengren, Ph.D., for a return appearance to answer some common questions we receive in trainings. David is president & CEO of Prevention Research Institute (PRI), member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT), International Positive Psychology Association (IPPA), and Society for Implementation Research Collaboration (SIRC), as well as a Certified MINT Trainer.
David, is a clinical psychologist with a background in treatment, research, training, and administration. Previously, he was a research scientist and consultant at the University of Washington’s Alcohol and Drug Abuse Institute, practicing psychologist in a variety of clinical settings, and Motivational Interviewing (MI) consultant and trainer. David completed the initial training for new trainers course offered by Miller and Rollnick in 1993 and was a founding member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers. In addition to Building Motivational Interviewing Skills: A Practitioner Workbook, he has written journal articles and book chapters on addictions, MI, the change process, treatment and prevention. His most recent focus is on the role positive psychology can play in building resilience, as well as enhancing intervention and treatment effects, cognitive processes in learning, use of technology in training, and building, maintaining, and refining practitioner skills. His current research focus is implementation science in the integration of evidence-based practices across systems.
Episode index:
00:00 – Introduction
03:20 – Welcoming David back to the podcast: What’s David been up to?
06:35 – Question 1: Why does listening help?
14:40 – Question 2: How young can a client be to benefit from MI?
23:35 – Question 3: How is what you (therapist) do different than what anyone else (different therapist, friend/mate) does?
28:25 – Question 4: Should MI practitioners work to be powerful influencers of behavior?
35:30 – Question 5: My clients are more difficult than yours. How would MI work with them?
45:47 – Question 6: What if people think you are not being genuine with affirmations? How do you stop them from feeling patronized?
51:40 – Question 7: How are affirmations and compliments different?
58:20 – Question 8: What’s the best way to learn MI?
1:07:45 – Question 9: How am I supposed to do MI when I don’t have enough time?
1:18:25 – David looking forward to being a grandfather!
1:20:56 – End of episode
Links and contact information:
Email: David.rosengren@primeforlife.org
Website: www.primeforlife.org
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-rosengren-pri/
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
* ChangeTalking
* Glenn Hinds
* Sebastian Kaplan
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Storytelling In Teaching & Learning MI
Storytelling In Teaching & Learning MI
Glenn and Sebastian warmly welcomed Steven Malcolm Berg-Smith to the podcast for a discussion on the use of Storytelling In Teaching & Learning MI. For over 30 years, Steve has worked as a behavior change counselor, health educator, drug & alcohol prevention specialist, and researcher. He currently has a private practice in the San Francisco Bay Area as a certified motivational interviewing (MI) trainer, consultant, coach & mentor.
A member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 1994, Steve has conducted over 1200 MI workshops and presentations throughout the US and internationally. He has served as a “trainer of trainers” for MINT and collaborated in the design of MI-inspired behavior change intervention protocols for numerous national clinical research trials. He has authored a manual on the “The Art of Teaching Motivational Interviewing,” along with several frequently cited articles on how to use motivation-enhancing tools and strategies to support adolescents and adults in making positive lifestyle changes.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
04:18 – Steve’s early MI story: From interrogating to evoking
14:55 – Steve meets Bill Miller in a role play
27:00 – Steve’s wife encourages him to tell stories
35:30 – The use of cliffhangers in training
46:00 – How to work with someone who is in “pre-contemplation”
54:20 – Can ambivalence be resolved: “The chick that chews”
67:45 – Looking towards retirement
70:32 – End of episode
Contact information:
Website: www.berg-smithtraining.com
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
* ChangeTalking
* Glenn Hinds
* Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
We welcome all donations to support us
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Neurodiversity & MI
Neurodiversity & MI
Glenn and Seb were honoured to have Deb Solomon on the podcast to discuss neurodiversity. Deb is a social worker in Adult Care, and a Practice Development Lead. Following a surprise diagnosis of ADHD in 2020 she went on to set up and chair the first UK group for neurodivergent social workers through the British Association Of Social Workers (BASW) after recognising the lack of knowledge and support in the profession. Deb is also the Vice Chair of BASW Equality, Diversity and Inclusion Advisory Group and has recently set up the Neurodiversity Network for her local authority. Deb presents workshops on neurodiversity, executive functioning and is passionate about ensuring anyone who thinks differently is safe to be their whole selves, celebrating strengths as well as promoting acceptance for all neurotypes.
Episode index:
00:00 – Opening and episode preview
07:25 – Deb’s introduction and early story
10:08 – Gender differences in ADHD
14:26 – What changed for Deb after receiving the ADHD diagnosis
20:30 – What an MI practitioner should know when working with clients who are neurodiverse
34:10 – Deb’s emotional and cognitive experiences as someone with ADHD
40:40 – Ambivalence and the executive functions
56:25 – “I have to get it (a thought) out”
1:02:16 – What’s helped Deb that might help others
1:06:25 – Media attention towards neurodiversity
1:11:55 – End of episode
Contact information:
Twitter: @ND_SWgroup
Email: deb.solomon@basw.co.uk
For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian
Email: podcast@glennhinds.com
Twitter:
* ChangeTalking
* Glenn Hinds
* Sebastian Kaplan
For all previous episodes CLICK HERE
We welcome all donations to support us
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