Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast Glenn Hinds & Sebastian Kaplan

Motivational Interviewing & Grief

Dr. M. Katherine Shear is the Marion E. Kenworthy Professor of Psychiatry and the founding Director of the Center for Prolonged Grief at Columbia University School of Social Work. Dr. Shear is a clinical researcher who first worked in anxiety and depression. For the past 25 years, she has focused on understanding and treating people who experience persistent, intense grief, which is now an official diagnosis called Prolonged Grief Disorder in the ICD-11 and DSM-5. She developed and tested Complicated Grief Therapy/Prolonged Grief Disorder Therapy, a short-term, strength-based intervention that helps foster adaptation to loss and confirmed its efficacy in three large NIMH-funded studies.

Dr. Shear is widely recognized for her work in bereavement, including both research and clinical awards from the Association for Death Education and Counseling and invited authorship of articles for Uptodate and the New England Journal of Medicine. Her work includes more than 330 peer-reviewed publications. She’s developed several widely used assessment instruments and a PGDT instruction manual.

Dr. Shear received a BS in biology with honors from the University of Chicago and an MD from Tufts University Medical School. She completed residencies in Internal Medicine and Psychiatry and a psychosomatic fellowship before beginning her clinical research career.

Episode index:

   00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

   04:40 – Dr. Shear’s early MI story

   12:00 – What is grief? Why do we experience it? Why does it change over time?          

   17:17 – What are we losing when a loved one dies?

   26:18 – Adaptation after loss

   32:15 – The six healing milestones

   56:45 – The experience of the practitioner: Self-care and self-compassion

1:02:30 – Sudden vs. expected loss

1:07:08 – Dr. Shear’s work around grief in the African-American community 

1:11:16 – End of episode

Links and contact information:

Websites: 

https://prolongedgrief.columbia.edu/ 

https://hospicefoundation.ie/

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Transtheoretical Model Cycle of Change & MI

Glenn and Sebastian were excited to have Mary Marden Velasquez, PhD, on the podcast to discuss the Transtheoretical Model, including the Stages of Change. Dr. Velasquez is Centennial Professor in Leadership for Community, Professional and Corporate Excellence, Director of the Health Behavior Research and Training Institute (HBRT), and former Associate Dean for Research (2006-2013) at The University of Texas at Austin Steve Hicks School of Social Work. She also holds appointments in the Department of Population Health and Psychiatry at UT-Austin’s Dell Medical School. Prior to moving to UT-Austin to become Associate Dean for Research, Dr. Velasquez served on the research faculty in the Psychology Department at the University of Houston and as tenured faculty and Director of Research in Family and Community Medicine at the UT McGovern Medical School in Houston. Her program of research focuses on the development and implementation of interventions using the Transtheoretical Model and Motivational Interviewing. With over 30 years of continued support from the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Dr. Velasquez has developed and studied behavioral interventions in the areas of integrated primary care, screening and brief interventions, fetal alcohol spectrum disorder, alcohol and other drug abuse, prenatal health, HIV prevention, and smoking cessation. A current emphasis is on teaching graduate students and health professionals to work in interdisciplinary teams and to use brief motivational interventions in medical settings.

Dr. Velasquez recently completed a four-year term as a study section member on the NIH-Center for Scientific Review “Interventions to Prevent and Treat Addictions” (IPTA). She is an internationally recognized trainer in the Transtheoretical Model and Motivational Interviewing and is a member of the international Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers

Episode index:

   00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

   05:37 – Mary’s early TTM and MI story

   17:50 – The 10 Processes of Change

   21:21 – Experiential Process #1: Consciousness raising

   24:08 – Experiential Process #2: Emotional arousal

   26:21 – Experiential Process #3: Self-evaluation

   28:57 – Experiential Process #4: Environmental re-evaluation

   30:52 – Experiential Process #5: Social liberation

   33:31 – The Stages of Change

   39:35 – Experiential processes linked to long-term change 

   47:25 – Behavioral Process #1: Stimulus control

   48:13 – Behavioral Process #2: Counter conditioning 

   49:23 – Behavioral Process #3: Reinforcement management

   51:01 – Behavioral Process #4: Self-liberation

   52:09 – Behavioral Process #5: Helping relationships

   55:05 – Applying the model flexibly 

1:00:35 – The stages of change and MI: The “kissing cousins”

1:02:25 – Decisional balance and self-efficacy

1:10:43 – Temptation 

1:12:25 – Spending time with giants in the field

1:16:57 – End of episode

Links and contact information:

Study cited in episode: 

Stotts AL, DiClemente CC, Carbonari JP, Mullen PD. Pregnancy smoking cessation: a case of mistaken identity. Addict Behav. 1996 Jul-Aug;21(4):459-71. doi: 10.1016/0306-4603(95)00082-8. PMID: 8830904. 

Book cited in episode: https://www.guilford.com/books/Group-Treatment-for-Substance-Abuse/Velasquez-Crouch-Stephens-DiClemente/9781462523405

Health Behavior and Training Institute: 

https://sites.utexas.edu/hbrt/ 

Therapeutic Humor – Part II

Glenn and Sebastian welcomed Mallori DeSalle, MA, LMHC, NCC, CMHC, MATS, CPS, CHP and Lodge McCammon, PhD on the podcast to discuss therapeutic humor (Listen to episode 21 with Mallori for part I on this topic). Mallori is a licensed mental health counselor, an internationally certified prevention specialist, motivational interviewing trainer and a certified humor professional. As a speaker and trainer, she has sparked curiosity in both the young and young-at-heart. Her passion for creating a lasting impact led her to the public health field and for the past 15 years she has worked at Prevention Insights, a center within the School of Public Health at Indiana University, Bloomington.  Mallori works with people all over the world. She served on the Board of Directors for the Association for Applied and Therapeutic Humor and in 2021 became a TEDx speaker. Her credentials don’t impress her family, but occasionally her corny jokes do make them laugh. 

Dr. Lodge McCammon is a therapeutic humorist, instructional designer, author, musician, and international education consultant who provides professional services, including keynote speeches, workshops, curriculum development, and a variety of training programs. He works with school districts, universities, nonprofits, and businesses (e.g., Palm Beach Schools, University of the West Indies, Discovery Education, Microsoft, Amazon, The Coca-Cola Company). Most recently, Lodge facilitated a month of therapeutic humor for the Nourished Teachers Community, which is a Facebook-funded initiative focused on helping educators cope with work stress and avoid burnout. He uses a program that he designed called “Laugh It Off!” to help his clients transform their daily frustrations into humor.

Episode index:

   00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

   03:39 – Lodge’s introduction and how he and Mallori came to work together 

   09:00 – Evoking with humor

   13:00 – What is humor?

   17:00 – An invitation to see a situation in a new way

   26:00 – Absurdity training

   28:10 – Renaming exercise

   34:45 – Finding the absurd from an expected response

   40:52 – “I am now ___ years old”

   48:25 – The portability of therapeutic humor

   54:40 – How to introduce a humorous intervention with permission

1:01:10 – Future trainings and applying therapeutic humor with couples 

1:05:20 – Seb’s story applying therapeutic humor in group therapy with adolescents 

1:11.21 – End of episode

Links and contact information:

Mallori

Website: www.malloridesalle.com 

Email: malloridesalle@gmail.com

Lodge

Website: www.lodgemccammon.com

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Common Questions about MI

Glenn and Sebastian were excited to welcome David B. Rosengren, Ph.D., for a return appearance to answer some common questions we receive in trainings. David is president & CEO of Prevention Research Institute (PRI), member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT), International Positive Psychology Association (IPPA), and Society for Implementation Research Collaboration (SIRC), as well as a Certified MINT Trainer. 

David, is a clinical psychologist with a background in treatment, research, training, and administration. Previously, he was a research scientist and consultant at the University of Washington’s Alcohol and Drug Abuse Institute, practicing psychologist in a variety of clinical settings, and Motivational Interviewing (MI) consultant and trainer.  David completed the initial training for new trainers course offered by Miller and Rollnick in 1993 and was a founding member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers.  In addition to Building Motivational Interviewing Skills: A Practitioner Workbook, he has written journal articles and book chapters on addictions, MI, the change process, treatment and prevention.  His most recent focus is on the role positive psychology can play in building resilience, as well as enhancing intervention and treatment effects, cognitive processes in learning, use of technology in training, and building, maintaining, and refining practitioner skills.  His current research focus is implementation science in the integration of evidence-based practices across systems.

Episode index:

   00:00 – Introduction

   03:20 – Welcoming David back to the podcast: What’s David been up to?

   06:35 – Question 1: Why does listening help? 

   14:40 – Question 2: How young can a client be to benefit from MI?

   23:35 – Question 3: How is what you (therapist) do different than what anyone else (different therapist, friend/mate) does?

   28:25 – Question 4: Should MI practitioners work to be powerful influencers of behavior?

   35:30 – Question 5: My clients are more difficult than yours. How would MI work with them?

   45:47 – Question 6: What if people think you are not being genuine with affirmations? How do you stop them from feeling patronized?

   51:40 – Question 7: How are affirmations and compliments different? 

   58:20 – Question 8: What’s the best way to learn MI?

1:07:45 – Question 9: How am I supposed to do MI when I don’t have enough time? 

1:18:25 – David looking forward to being a grandfather!

1:20:56 – End of episode

Links and contact information:

Email: David.rosengren@primeforlife.org

Website: www.primeforlife.org  

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-rosengren-pri/

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Storytelling In Teaching & Learning MI

Glenn and Sebastian warmly welcomed Steven Malcolm Berg-Smith to the podcast for a discussion on the use of Storytelling In Teaching & Learning MI. For over 30 years, Steve has worked as a behavior change counselor, health educator, drug & alcohol prevention specialist, and researcher.  He currently has a private practice in the San Francisco Bay Area as a certified motivational interviewing (MI) trainer, consultant, coach & mentor.

A member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 1994, Steve has conducted over 1200 MI workshops and presentations throughout the US and internationally.  He has served as a “trainer of trainers” for MINT and collaborated in the design of MI-inspired behavior change intervention protocols for numerous national clinical research trials.  He has authored a manual on the “The Art of Teaching Motivational Interviewing,” along with several frequently cited articles on how to use motivation-enhancing tools and strategies to support adolescents and adults in making positive lifestyle changes.

Episode index:

00:00 – Opening and episode preview

04:18 – Steve’s early MI story: From interrogating to evoking

14:55 – Steve meets Bill Miller in a role play

27:00 – Steve’s wife encourages him to tell stories

35:30 – The use of cliffhangers in training

46:00 – How to work with someone who is in “pre-contemplation”

54:20 – Can ambivalence be resolved: “The chick that chews”

67:45 – Looking towards retirement

70:32 – End of episode

Contact information:

Website: www.berg-smithtraining.com 

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Neurodiversity & MI

Glenn and Seb were honoured to have Deb Solomon on the podcast to discuss neurodiversity. Deb is a social worker in Adult Care, and a Practice Development Lead. Following a surprise diagnosis of ADHD in 2020 she went on to set up and chair the first UK group for neurodivergent social workers through the British Association Of Social Workers (BASW) after recognising the lack of knowledge and support in the profession. Deb is also the Vice Chair of BASW Equality, Diversity and Inclusion Advisory Group and has recently set up the Neurodiversity Network for her local authority. Deb presents workshops on neurodiversity, executive functioning and is passionate about ensuring anyone who thinks differently is safe to be their whole selves, celebrating strengths as well as promoting acceptance for all neurotypes.

Episode index:

   00:00 – Opening and episode preview

   07:25 – Deb’s introduction and early story

   10:08 – Gender differences in ADHD

   14:26 – What changed for Deb after receiving the ADHD diagnosis 

   20:30 – What an MI practitioner should know when working with clients who are neurodiverse

   34:10 – Deb’s emotional and cognitive experiences as someone with ADHD

   40:40 – Ambivalence and the executive functions 

   56:25 – “I have to get it (a thought) out”

1:02:16 – What’s helped Deb that might help others

1:06:25 – Media attention towards neurodiversity

1:11:55 – End of episode

Contact information:

Twitter: @ND_SWgroup 

Email: deb.solomon@basw.co.uk

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