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Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing podcast, hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.



Glenn Hinds is a registered counsellor living in Derry, N. Ireland. He worked as a drug therapist and senior social work practitioner in mental health and alcohol and drug services, from 1990 until 2008, when he created Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants (https://www.glennhinds.com) developing and delivering bespoke training workshops to health, social care, education, criminal justice and human resource practitioners and managers across the UK, Ireland and USA. He has been a member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2003 and has completed Motivational Interviewing Training Integrity (MITI) and Motivational Interviewing Supervisory Training (MIST) training and has written the Motivational Interviewing module for Ulster University Foundation Degree.



Sebastian G. Kaplan, PhD, is an associate professor in the Departments of Psychiatry (Child and Adolescent Section) and Family and Community Medicine at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, NC, USA. Sebastian is a former special education teacher, who currently provides individual and family psychotherapy, primarily with adolescents and young adults, struggling with a variety of life challenges. Sebastian has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2008. He provides training and consultation in MI for a variety of regional and national audiences. Sebastian is a co-author of “Motivational Interviewing in Schools: Conversations to Improve Behavior and Learning.” (Guilford Press 2016). Sebastian is also a co-developer of “Motivational Interviewing with Adolescents: A Four-Video Series” (http://www.psychotherapy.net/video/mi-adolescents).

Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing Podcast Glenn Hinds & Sebastian Kaplan

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Talking To Change - A Motivational Interviewing podcast, hosted by Glenn Hinds and Sebastian Kaplan, is a series of conversations exploring Motivational Interviewing (MI) and its influence on supporting individuals and groups as they make positive health and lifestyle changes. Guests from across the world discuss their special interest in the research, practice and learning of MI along with its place across health, social care, education and criminal justice.



Glenn Hinds is a registered counsellor living in Derry, N. Ireland. He worked as a drug therapist and senior social work practitioner in mental health and alcohol and drug services, from 1990 until 2008, when he created Glenn Hinds Motivation & Coaching Consultants (https://www.glennhinds.com) developing and delivering bespoke training workshops to health, social care, education, criminal justice and human resource practitioners and managers across the UK, Ireland and USA. He has been a member of the International Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2003 and has completed Motivational Interviewing Training Integrity (MITI) and Motivational Interviewing Supervisory Training (MIST) training and has written the Motivational Interviewing module for Ulster University Foundation Degree.



Sebastian G. Kaplan, PhD, is an associate professor in the Departments of Psychiatry (Child and Adolescent Section) and Family and Community Medicine at the Wake Forest University School of Medicine in Winston-Salem, NC, USA. Sebastian is a former special education teacher, who currently provides individual and family psychotherapy, primarily with adolescents and young adults, struggling with a variety of life challenges. Sebastian has been a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) since 2008. He provides training and consultation in MI for a variety of regional and national audiences. Sebastian is a co-author of “Motivational Interviewing in Schools: Conversations to Improve Behavior and Learning.” (Guilford Press 2016). Sebastian is also a co-developer of “Motivational Interviewing with Adolescents: A Four-Video Series” (http://www.psychotherapy.net/video/mi-adolescents).

    Motivational Interviewing in Physio-Physical Therapy

    Motivational Interviewing in Physio-Physical Therapy

    Physio-Physical Therapy

    Glenn and Seb welcomed Maddy Nicholson to the podcast to discuss MI in physio-physical therapy for chronic pain. Maddy has been a registered physiotherapist for 15 years, specialising for 10 years as a clinical specialist physiotherapist in persistent pain management. She is currently working as a senior lecturer and programme leader for physiotherapy at Wrexham Glyndwr University in Wales, UK. Maddy is currently a PhD student at Sheffield Hallam University with Professor Jeff Breckon as director of studies, where she is exploring MI in Musculoskeletal physiotherapy care.

    She became a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) after attending the training for new trainers (TNT) in Estonia in 2019 and has delivered MI training to psychology trainees, student and registered physiotherapists, sports injury rehabilitation students, occupational therapists, dieticians, substance misuse workers and medical practitioners.

    Maddy enjoys being involved in the MINT community within events such as MINT UK forum, MINT forum, ‘MINT around the clock’ and the MI ‘playground’.

    00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

    05:43 – Maddy’s intro and early MI story

    11:43 – How does MI fit in the world of a physio?

    18:00 – Getting “underneath” the change talk

    28:04 – “The swivel chair” story: Letting emotion in the room

    33:50 – Using MI in a multidisciplinary approach for chronic pain

    46:30 – Genuineness in affirmations

    53:55 – Embodying MI as a university lecturer

    59:45 – Maddy’s new lecturer role and her Ph.D.

    1:04:11 – End of interview

    1:04:18 – Maddy’s role play – Using MI with a person with back pain

    1:19:50 – Role play debrief

    1:46:57 – End of episode

    Links and contact information:

    Email: Madeleine.nicholson@glyndwr.ac.uk

    Twitter: @motivationalmad

    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



    * ChangeTalking

    * Glenn Hinds

    * Sebastian Kaplan 



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    • 1 hr 31 min
    MI for Survivors of Violence

    MI for Survivors of Violence

    MI for Survivors of Violence

    Glenn and Sebastian were joined by Dr. Kate Watson to discuss the application of MI when working with survivors of violence. Dr. Watson is a public speaker, author, and podcaster.  As the founder of The Advocacy Academy, Dr. Watson is on a mission to build a skilled workforce of advocates to eliminate violence around the world. To date, she has provided training to victim and survivor advocates in 25 states and 9 countries (across 3 continents). On average, Dr. Watson speaks to 10,000 live audience members each year. With her experience working with survivors of violence, she has become an on-going consultant to the US Department of Defense, the Nation al Football League (USA), and to major television networks.  In addition to her speaking and consulting work, Dr. Watson sits on the Board of Directors for The Lady Parts Collective, which is a Los Angeles-based theatre company specializing in the development of work relevant to women in the United States.  She is also a Director Emeritus for the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers. Dr. Watson is the author of the book, Only Trying to Help, which is also the name of her podcast, now entering its 6th season.

     

    00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

    04:13 – Kate’s introduction and early MI story

    08:30 – The role of an advocate 

    12:15 – Self-advocacy as change talk

    15:15 – Working with the “righting reflex” to amplify the voice of the client

    19:20 – Difficult decisions for survivors of violence: counselling with neutrality and hope

    24:45 – Paying attention to our signals, and ourselves

    30:10 – Using affirmations and seeking permission in respectful ways

    38:20 – Viewing change with suspicion

    46:25 – Careful use of reflections

    50:30 – Tying questions to hopeful outcomes

    59:25 – Kate’s book and podcast: “Only Trying to Help”

    1:04:32 – End of episode

     

    Contact information and links:

    – Email: kate@advocacyacademy.org

    – Twitter: @advokatew

    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



    * ChangeTalking

    * Glenn Hinds

    * Sebastian Kaplan 



    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE

    We welcome all donations to support us



    GBP



    Thank You.

    • 1 hr 4 min
    Lessons from the lab: The dynamics of change talk and technological advances in MI

    Lessons from the lab: The dynamics of change talk and technological advances in MI

    Episode 51 – Lessons from the lab: The dynamics of change talk and technological advances in 

    We were pleased to welcome April Carcone to discuss her research on the dynamics of change talk and technological advances in MI. April is a member of the Behavioral Sciences Division of the Department of Family Medicine and Public Health Sciences at Wayne State University in Detroit, Michigan, USA. April is a social worker by training with over 18 year experience in developing and testing behavioral health interventions. She has studied Motivational Interviewing (MI) for more than a decade. Her research has examined how counselors and health care providers facilitate behavior change through the evocation of change talk. This has included collaborative work with computer scientists to automate the communication coding process using machine-learning models. April’s work to understand how MI facilitates change has informed her current research to develop and test eHealth behavioral interventions to improve health outcomes among emerging adults with type 1 diabetes.

       00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

    06:25 – April’s introduction and early MI story

    09:45 – What works to evoke change talk from African-American youth?

    15:45 – Process of forming research questions

    21:00 – Working with youth and their caregivers

    24:00 – What you ask about, and reflect, matters

    27:40 – Statements that support autonomy, evoke change talk, and consolidate commitment

    40:40 – Developing computerized coding methods

    54:00 – The dilemma of research

    58:10 – eHealth along a continuum of care

    1:05:00 – Developing an eHealth prevention program for childhood cancer survivors

    1:10:17 – End of episode

    Links and contact information:

    Email: acarcone@med.wayne.edu

    Twitter: @a_carcone

    Website: https://familymedicine.med.wayne.edu/profile/ao6558

    Researchgate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/April-Carcone

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/april-idalski-carcone-7584501/

    International Conference on Motivational Interviewing:

    Website:  https://www.icmi2022.org/ 

    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



    * ChangeTalking

    * Glenn Hinds

    * Sebastian Kaplan 



    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE

    We welcome all donations to support us



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    • 1 hr 10 min
    MI in Primary Care - Part 2

    MI in Primary Care - Part 2

    MI in Primary Care – Part 2

    Glenn and Seb welcomed Mats Hogmark to discuss MI in Primary Care. Mats is a 47 year old Swedish physician who specializes in family medicine. He works in a small primary health care center in the countryside close to the city of Falun.

    Mats has been an MI practitioner since 2006 and a trainer since 2007 and became a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers (MINT) in 2012. As part of the Program Planning Committee he worked on the organising team for the MINT Forums in Montreal, Dublin and New Orleans 2016-2018. Mats also leads trainings for resident doctors in person-centered communication skills.

     

    00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

    04:34 – Mats’ intro and early MI story

    14:00 – The physician as an “assistant” and sitting on one’s hands

    20:30 – Becoming a better listener through reflections

    28:10 – Coming alongside the patient

    31:30 – How MI can save time

    34:20 – Mats’ MI model: The patient, doctor, and mutual roles exploring Ideas, Concerns, and Expectations

    38:45 – Role play with Mats and Glenn

    58:30 – Role play debrief – Attending to the physical AND emotional needs of the patient

    1:17:45 – Mats’ work on compassion and relational competence

    1:25:09 – End of episode

    Links and contact information:

    Email: mats@hogmark.com

    Twitter: @matshogmark

    LinkedIn: Mats Hogmark

    Mats on Stan Steindl’s podcast, The Compassion Initiative: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/compassion-in-a-t-shirt-in-session-with-mats-hogmark/id1110384435?i=1000519850071

    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



    * ChangeTalking

    * Glenn Hinds

    * Sebastian Kaplan 



    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE

    We welcome all donations to support us



    GBP



    Thank You.

    • 1 hr 25 min
    Motivational Interviewing for Working with Children & Families

    Motivational Interviewing for Working with Children & Families

    Motivational Interviewing for Working with Children & Families

    In this episode exploring Motivational Interviewing in Work with Children & Families, Glenn and Sebastian meet Donald Forrester, Professor of Child and Family Social Work and Director of the CASCADE Centre for Children’s Social Care at Cardiff University in the UK. He has been researching and teaching about Motivational Interviewing in Work with Children & Families, and in particular the complicated nature of child protection conversations, for 20 years. Recently, with long term colleagues David Wilkins and Charlotte Whittaker, he published MI for Working with Children and Families, in which they tried to bring together their learning from this work and make suggestions about using MI in very difficult conversations.

       00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

       05:15 – Donald’s early MI story and lessons from MI research

       12:00 – Shift within children’s social care: From “get on with it” to models of good practice 

       15:45 – What does it mean to be a “good social worker” and how does MI fit? 

       20:00 – Balancing MI spirit with a child’s safety 

       25:00 – Recognizing the needs of the vulnerable parent and the experience of “agape” 

       30:45 – Modeling good care in supervision 

       33:00 – Can one selectively use MI? 

       37:00 – Growing as an MI practitioner

       40:20 – Using with MI children, using MI with parents, and teaching MI to parents

       47:45 – Role play: Exploring an allegation of child abuse

       58:48 – Role play debrief

    1:09:45 – “Good authority: Purposefulness; Focus on the child; and Clarity about concerns

    1:13:30 – The next book: Framing social work as rights based

    1:18:06 – End of episode

     

    Links and contact information:

    Email: forresterd@cardiff.ac.uk

    Twitter: @DonaldForr

    Donald’s book “Motivational Interviewing for working with children and families”:



    https://uk.jkp.com/collections/author-donald-forrester-pid-206645/products/motivational-interviewing-for-working-with-children-and-families



    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn & Sebastian

    Email: podcast@glennhinds.com

    Twitter:



    * ChangeTalking

    * Glenn Hinds

    * Sebastian Kaplan 



    For all previous episodes CLICK HERE

    We welcome all donations to support us



    GBP

    • 1 hr 18 min
    MI in Peer Support Recovery Services 

    MI in Peer Support Recovery Services 

    MI in Peer Support Recovery Services 

    We are happy to have had John Burns on to discuss MI in peer support recovery services. John is a person in long term recovery and a family member of a loved one who has struggled with substance use. He is the director of SOS Recovery Community Organization with recovery community centers in Rochester, Dover and Hampton, NH.  John founded Families Hoping and Coping in 2014, a peer-based family support group for family members and loved ones of those struggling with substance use disorder.  Families Hoping and Coping has chapters that meet weekly in Dover and Portsmouth, NH.  He prides himself most on being an outspoken advocate for people who use drugs, building recovery-oriented systems of care, and promoting diversity, equity, inclusion, and justice for those marginalized who often are left without a voice and oppressed due to inhumane global, national and local drug policy.

    John is a board member for the NH Harm Reduction Coalition.  He also serves on the NH Drug Overdose Fatality Review Commission and on the executive committee for the Strafford County, New Hampshire Public Health Advisory Committee.  

    John became a member of the Motivational Interviewing Network of Trainers in 2021 and is involved in offering basic and advanced Motivational Interviewing workshops within the peer-recovery support service field several times a year.  He also has completed Motivational Interviewing Competency Assessment (MICA) training and provides coding and coaching services to his staff and recovery support providers across New England in an effort to expand motivational interviewing competency in the peer-assisted recovery service field.

    John earned his MBA from Southern NH University and is credentialed as a Certified Recovery Support Worker (CRSW) in NH.  John has helped grow SOS from a $5000 all-volunteer effort in Sept 2016 into a robust program with 20 full-time employees and four recovery community centers.  All of SOS recovery centers recently became registered as syringe service providers in New Hampshire and provide safer injection supplies, safer smoking and safer sex supplies as well as naloxone and overdose prevention programs.  John and SOS have led numerous initiatives including a state-wide criminal justice recovery program and a national collaboration in digital recovery meetings offered 8 times a day, 7 days a week along with family support meetings nightly.

    John has been involved in development of several curriculums with SOS including the Art & Science of Peer Assisted Recovery, Ethical Considerations for Peer-Assisted Recovery, Suicide Prevention for Peer-Assisted Recovery, HIV, AIDS and Hepatitis Prevention for Peer Assisted Recovery and more.  He has trained and developed curriculums for over 5 years now and speaks regularly to large audiences across the Northeast.

       00:00 – Introduction and episode preview

       04:30 – John’s introduction and early MI story

       15:30 – Lessons learned from early experiences in recovery

       26:30 – John’s “game changers” after learning client-centered approaches 

       34:00 – How MI helps in peer support settings 

       42:30 – The role of self-disclosure

       48:30 – Integrating peer support services within organizations and working alongside other professions 

       58:30 – Management of a peer recovery support organization 

    1:04:00 – Furthering grass roots efforts through social enterprise models and greater access to housing

    1:14:22 – Start of role play

    1:29:52 – Role play debrief

    1:43:14 – End of episode

    Links and contact information:

    Email: john@sosrco.org

    Website: www.sosrco.org

    For suggestions, questions and to enquire about training in Motivational Interviewing contact Glenn ...

    • 1 hr 40 min

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