In this episode of the Church Planting Podcast, Clint Clifton sits down with Thabiti Anybwile to discuss his testimony and hear what he has to say about his church planting journey.
Thabiti Anyabwile (MS, North Carolina State University) is a pastor at Anacostia River Church in southeast Washington, DC, and a Council member of The Gospel Coalition. He’s the author of several books, including What Is a Healthy Church Member?, Finding Faithful Elders and Deacons, Reviving the Black Church, and others. He and his wife, Kristie, have three children.
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CLINT CLIFTON: Hey Josh.
JOSH TURANSKY: …were recording this uh remotely. And uh Clint uh where are you recording from? What’s your space look like?
CLINT CLIFTON: Well I’m in DC right now. I’m in my, in my office. Uhm good awesome
JOSH TURANSKY: I’m in my office which is the basement of a real house
CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah
JOSH TURANSKY: All the pipes and the wires lead uh, in here it’s very exciting.
CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. Everything looked cool in Baltimore
JOSH TURANSKY: It does. And this and this sound, this recording will be great as long as no one flushes the toilet
CLINT CLIFTON: Oh yeah. Well it’s kinda cool like a uhm a graveyard or something. You know its like a little bit scary…
JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah.
CLINT CLIFTON: …but cool
JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah. I love it.
CLINT CLIFTON: You know I was in New York city all week. I uh stayed uhm down just right there by the Empire State building a for a meeting and boy that’s a scary city. Holy smokes
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JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah. Oh it that there’s nothing like New York city it’s it’s cool.
CLINT CLIFTON: I’m so glad I don’t live there. Cause I was pretty excited going I’ve been I’ve been there quite a few times but I was excited that I had a little down time with this meeting kinda walk around and boy I mean it’s yeah it’s a it’s a its’a not place I probably not like to live.
JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah…
CLINT CLIFTON: But I’m thankful that couple-minded people go move there but…
JOSH TURANSKY: Amen
JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah. It’s always amazes me that people will plant a church in such a dense area but then I think people probably think well I was nuts for planting in Baltimore so…
CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah.
JOSH TURANSKY: God give you grace to go to the place you’re called to yeah so.
CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah, He does.
JOSH TURANSKY: This episode we’re gonna talk with Thabiti eh, Thabiti Anyabwile
JOSH TURANSKY: Did I did I pronounce that right?
CLINT CLIFTON: That was like no not at all
CLINT CLIFTON: It’s Thabiti uh commonly
JOSH TURANSKY: Thabiti
CLINT CLIFTON: Commonly uhm you know messed up and uhm we talked about this just a little bit in the interview but, uhm ah Thabiti was born as Ron Burns which is so interesting people always asking where’s he from? And he answers North Carolina like he’s a uhm ethnically speaking standard uhm African-American born in North Carolina uh…
JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah
CLINT CLIFTON: …with the name Ron Burns. And uhm, so his he’ll share some of his testament as to how he came to faith and or not didn’t came to faith excuse me. Converted to Islam and changes his name uhm…
JOSH TURANSKY: Ah that’s right
CLINT CLIFTON: when he converted to Islam. And uhm so yeah. Fascinating man and like one of the most fascinating guys I’ve ever hung out with. Brilliant and that’s about it
JOSH TURANSKY: He came on my radar. Sorry. He came on my radar when uhm, the black l