
65 episodes

That Black Couple Podcast Jenn and Daren
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4.8 • 58 Ratings
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This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
We do “adult” differently.
-About Daren and Jenn-
Jenn is a queer, Black feminist from Oakland. Daren is an introverted nerd and novelist from Anaheim.
They are boo’ed up and have been since 2002 when they bonded over a mutual love of Brian McKnight’s “Never Felt This Way”, their favorite Brandy lyrics, and nineties TV like Family Matters, Fresh Prince of Bel Air, and Living Single. It was a shared obsession with Black cultural icons, histories, and artistry that drew Jenn and Daren to one another even though they are actually completely different personality-wise.
Jenn and Daren have always said to themselves, “Wouldn’t it be cool if we had a show?” Well, no major networks have reached out yet. So, until that happens, you can find the them here, sharing their views on race and culture and everything in between.
They are young thirty-somethings who have been married since for over a decade. Jenn and Daren have three beautiful, brilliant, radical, snarky kids who play no games.
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S5E9 - Poly For The Holidays Part 1: Chosen Family
In this holiday themed episode, Jenn and Daren talk about how celebrating the holidays in a non-traditional way can sometimes be the way that best serves you. The queer community has a legacy of chosen families, building families not based on blood but based on the community that loves and supports you. For much of their lives, Jenn and Daren operated under the traditional framework that you celebrate the holidays with your family, even if that family was full of people that mistreated you, made you uncomfortable, or were generally not fun to be around. But once they chose to celebrate the holidays with the people they built a community with the other 364 days of the year, the entire experience became much more enjoyable.
This is a symptom of the broader importance of boundary setting. People in your family are not due any special form of treatment. If they cross, disrespect, or outright ignore your boundaries, they are not worthy of your time, energy, or presence. If they loved you and were showing up the right way, they would either support your decision to not take part in an event that violated your boundaries or make the effort to make the space somewhere that accommodated your needs.
Reference Material:
PREORDER Black Women Taught Us: An Intimate History of Black Feminism by Jenn M. Jackson PhD - https://amzn.to/3N5m4Yg
Set Boundaries, Find Peace, The Set Boundaries Workbook 2 Books Collection Set By Nedra Glover Tawwab - https://amzn.to/47Frf9U
What ‘Chosen Family’ Means — and How to Build Your Own - https://www.healthline.com/health/relationships/chosen-family
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Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. -
S5E8 - Queer Self-Naming
In this queer themed episode, Jenn and Daren celebrate LGBT History Month and Asexuality Awareness Week by marking the importance of “self-naming” and the power of being able to define yourself for yourself outside of society’s rules and standards. They talk about vulnerable queer youth and how self-naming can be a source of empowerment for them, and furthermore, how acceptance from their family and friends can lead to healthier life outcomes. From there, they discuss the difference between “coming out and “welcoming in” and the challenge of overcoming guilt and shame around your own identity.
They close out the episode with a discussion of pronouns, why people choose different pronouns, and why using someone’s chosen pronouns is an act of seeing and respecting someone as they would like to be seen and respected. It’s basic human decency and respect.
Reference Material:
* The Trevor Project 2022 National Survey on LGBTQ Youth Mental Health - https://www.thetrevorproject.org/survey-2022/
* Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law: New estimates show 300,000 youth ages 13-17 identify as transgender in the US - https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/transgender-estimate-press-release/
* New HRC Data Reveals Over Half of Transgender Youth Ages 13-17 Could Soon Face Barriers to Life-Saving, Medically Necessary Gender Affirming Care - https://www.hrc.org/press-releases/new-hrc-data-reveals-over-half-of-transgender-youth-ages-13-17-could-soon-face-barriers-to-life-saving-medically-necessary-gender-affirming-care
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Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. -
S5E7 - Black Mental Health Check-In
In this episode, Jenn and Daren mark World Mental Health Day (October 10) with a much needed mental health check-in. As the season changes, temperatures drop, and the state of the world is constantly changing, it is important that we check-in with ourselves and with each other to make sure that we are each OK.
They emphasize how the trauma of going through the COVID-19 pandemic has impacted marginalized communities especially in relationship with work. As employment has risen steeply we must keep in mind that 46% of U.S. workers who receive paid time off from their employer take less time than they are offered and Black workers are almost twice as likely than White workers to say that they take less time off for fear of losing their job. We need to change our way of thinking around taking time off. It is a necessity. Do it for your mental health.
Reference Material:
Black, Hispanic Americans are Overrepresented in Essential Jobs - https://publichealth.uic.edu/news-stories/black-hispanic-americans-are-overrepresented-in-essential-jobs/
Black and Hispanic workers are much less likely to be able to telework - https://www.epi.org/blog/black-and-hispanic-workers-are-much-less-likely-to-be-able-to-work-from-home/
Paycheck or caring for family? Without paid leave, people of color often must make the ‘impossible choice’ - https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2021/03/19/paid-leave-shortfall-during-covid-means-job-pay-losses/4730902001/
An unemployment rate milestone for Black Americans - https://www.axios.com/2023/05/05/unemployment-rate-milestone-black-americans
Pandemic Shifts in Black Employment and Wages - https://www.whitehouse.gov/cea/written-materials/2022/08/24/pandemic-shifts-in-black-employment-and-wages/
More than 4 in 10 U.S. workers don’t take all their paid time off - https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/08/10/more-than-4-in-10-u-s-workers-dont-take-all-their-paid-time-off/
About EDMR Therapy - https://www.emdria.org/about-emdr-therapy/
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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw
Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple
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Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. -
S5E6 - The Rundown | Acknowledging Black Women’s Brilliance
In this rundown of topical matters, Jenn and Daren celebrate the sheer brilliance of Black women. They start with using Drake’s recent conflict with Halle Berry as an example of how not to treat Black women. Next is a walkthrough or recent major wins for Black women, ranging from the global economic impact Beyonce’s Renaissance tour to the enduring legacy of Black women athletes dominating their fields. They close out their acknowledgement of Black women by celebrating Virgo Season (#virgoszn) and announcing the availability of pre-orders for Jenn’s book “Black Women Taught Us”.
Pre-order “Black Women Taught Us” - https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/673883/black-women-taught-us-by-jenn-m-jackson-phd/
“Black Women Taught Us” GoodReads Giveaway - https://www.goodreads.com/giveaway/show/375960-black-women-taught-us-an-intimate-history-of-black-feminism
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iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/that-black-couple-podcast/id1284072220?mt=2
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw
Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple
SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple
Google Podcasts: https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cDovL2ZlZWRzLnNvdW5kY2xvdWQuY29tL3VzZXJzL3NvdW5kY2xvdWQ6dXNlcnM6Mjc2MDExMzcwL3NvdW5kcy5yc3M
Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. -
S5E5 - Let's Talk About Books
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren celebrate September (Virgo Season) and update everyone on where they have been. They also explain how important literacy is and how comic books play a part in not just bringing young people to reading but also helping minority and queer readers see themselves reflected in print.
In the second segment, they discuss the benefits of reading and how gaps in learning can persist from childhood through to adulthood. Daren also gives insight into the current publishing industry and how imperative it is to create opportunities for non-white people to find their place within that industry.
In the third segment, Jenn and Daren reflect on the books that turned them into avid readers and why the book bans happening across the country are so problematic. This underscores why it is imperative for us to write our own stories and record our own history.
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Stitcher: www.stitcher.com/podcast/that-black-couple
SoundCloud: https://soundcloud.com/thatblackcouple
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Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out. -
S5E4 - Understanding The Roots of Black August
In this episode spotlighting Black August, Jenn and Daren talk through the legacy of the Black radical tradition, from the Haitian Revolution to today.
In the first segment, Jenn and Daren discuss the limited amount of Black history that they were taught in their youth and how that history tended to skew towards elements that support capitalism. But as Black liberation movements have grown in prominence, so too have radical models of possibility.
In the second segment, they share the legacy of Black Panther George Jackson and the genesis of Black August as well as the linkages to the Haitian Revolution and the International Day for the Remembrance of the Slave Trade and its Abolition.
In the third segment, Daren explains why it is so important to teach children about Black radical tradition especially in the face of conservative efforts to erase the very concepts of race, gender, and sexuality from classrooms. Jenn remarks on interactions with her students and how the internet age has made this information so much more accessible to them, and how their level of knowledge at such a young age gives us hope for the future.
Reference Material:
* Black August Uplifted as Alternative Black History Month - https://www.usnews.com/news/us/articles/2022-08-25/black-august-uplifted-as-alternative-black-history-month
* Study, fast, train, fight: The roots of Black August - https://www.liberationschool.org/study-fast-train-fight-the-roots-of-black-august/
* unesco: International Day for the Remembrance of the Slave Trade and its Abolition - https://www.unesco.org/en/days/slave-trade-remembrance
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Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2M7GIQlWxG05gGq0bpBwma?si=xSkjzK0BRJW51rjyl3DWvw
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Email: ThatBLKCouple@gmail.com
Podcast Summary:
This is an accidentally funny podcast about the realities of Blackness and adult life. We do “adult” differently. We are That Black Couple.
Our goal is to create a space for Black millennials to discuss and embody adult life on their own terms. We aren’t beholden to “traditional” gender or parenting roles, queerness is fluid and present in the ways we show up in our relationships and in the world, and we want to build community with other 30-something Black folx who are trying to figure this ish out.
Customer Reviews
The Blackest, Most Woke Podcast
This is the first podcast I came across with a Black couple where one partner identifies as poly and gender fluid. Whenever you hear about poly couples in the media, the couple is never POC, not even in fictional stories. They also touch on politics, parenting and being married. I always learn something when I listen to an episode.
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Finally! Black NonMonogamy Content<3
One of the BLACKEST SHOWS I have ever heard! Love the episode on non monogamy. As a millennial queer black woman, I feel super seen and supported. Ugh *swoons.*
More please!
Thank you for being here.