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“That Dan Band Show” is a podcast that covers all areas of the marching arts, or what many refer to simply as “band.” Dan sits down with designers, teachers, judges, and members to give you a behind-the-scenes look at the band world.
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That Dan Band Show, Ep. 38: Art, Criticism, and Drum Corps
In this episode of That Dan Band Show, Dan delves into artistic interpretation, criticism, their histories, and how they apply to art and drum corps
Time Stamps:
00:00:00 - 00:02:06 - Intro
00:02:07 - 00:03:22 - Interpretation & criticism and what they mean within the marching arts
00:03:23 - 00:04:56 - Artistic interpretation and you find meaning
00:04:57 - 00:06:02 - Criticism
00:06:03 - 00:06:52 - Comparison
00:06:53 - 00:07:58 - Analysis
00:07:59 - 00:09:33 - Interpretation
00:09:34 - 00:12:02 - Evaluation
00:12:13 - 00:14:45 - Summary and putting it in the perspective of drum corps
00:18:09 - 00:19:21 - Historical deep-dive: Formalism
00:19:22 - 00:21:34 - Marxism
00:21:35 - 00:24:00 - Psychoanalysis
00:24:01 - 00:28:37 - Structuralism
00:28:38 - 00:33:28 - Post-structuralism & post-modernism
00:33:29 - 00:35:07 - Queer theory
00:35:08 - 00:37:04 - Post-colonial theory
00:37:05 - 00:39:59 - Bringing it back to today
00:40:00 - 00:43:38 - What does this mean for the marching arts?
00:43:39 - 00:46:38 - There is no "right answer" when it comes to critiquing art
00:46:39 - 00:49:11 - What we hear is subjective when it comes to drum corps
00:49:12 - 00:51:16 - Dan's favorite shows this season and his analysis
00:51:17 - 00:53:14 - Evaluation within drum corps & subjectivity
00:53:15 - 00:58:24 - Critique within drum corps
00:58:25 - 01:00:06 - Try to look in places you haven't looked
01:00:07 - 01:00:50 - Positive takeaways of everyone having different opinions and perspectives
01:00:51 - 01:01:48 - Outtro
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That Dan Band Show, Ep. 37: Atlanta to the End
In this episode of That Dan Band Show, Dan breaks down the scores from the 2023 DCI Southeastern Championship and makes predictions for Allentown & Finals
Episode Time Stamps:
00:00 - 02:04 - Intro
02:05 - 03:47 - 13th place; Music City
03:48 - 04:55 - 12th place; Madison Scouts
04:56 - 05:59 - 11th place; Spirit of Atlanta
06:00 - 06:56- 10th place; Pacific Crest
06:57 - 08:22 - 9th place; Blue Knights
08:23 - 10:15 - 8th place; Troopers
10:16 - 12:16 - 7th place; The Cavaliers
12:17 - 14:04 - 6th place; The Cadets
14:05 - 15:09 - 5th place; Phantom Regiment
15:10 - 17:41 - 4th place; Bluecoats
17:42 - 19:00 - 3rd place; Boston Crusaders
19:01 - 21:42 - 2nd place; Carolina Crown
21:43 - 23:19 - 1st place; Blue Devils
23:20 - 25:41 - Putting the scoring and caption races in perspective
25:42 - 27:32 - This is judging done right and it is exciting
27:33 - 29:23 - Who are you loving this year? Sound off in the comments + outtro
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What does the DCA/DCI Partnership Really Mean for All-Age Drum Corps?
In this episode of That Dan Band Show, Dan breaks down the DCI/DCA partnership and what it will mean for all-age drum corps.
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Dan's Takeaways from WGI 2023
Following the conclusion of World Championships, Dan talks about his takeaways from the 2023 WGI season.
Episode Timestamps
0:00:00 - 0:04:46 - Intro
0:08:21 - 0:14:04 Takeaway #1 - Every season is an emotional rollercoaster, and you should expect that. And why it's important to "outlast the battle"
0:14:05 - 0:19:35 - Takeaway #2 - Consider what the members are going to feel/think/say/how they're going to respond, every step of the way. A conversation about costuming
0:19:36 - 0:24:38 - Takeaway #3 - There's no ideal judging panel for any single group
0:24:39 - 0:31:47 - Takeaway #4 - Variety across captions and sub-captions is healthy
0:31:48 - 0:37:25 - Takeaway #5 - "Effect" isn't entertainment
0:37:26 - 0:40:20 - Takeaway #6 - Stress the craft (according to your instincts), not the outcomes
0:40:21 - 0:44:28 - Takeaway #7 - My tastes are not your tastes
0:44:29 - 0:47:00 - Takeaway #8 - Focus internally
0:47:01 - 0:50:37 - Takeaway #9 - Keep going and be resilient
0:50:38 - 0:55:15 - Takeaway #10 - Be yourself
0:55-16 - end - Outro
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Tommy Roam on Percussion Education & Passion
With less than a month before WGI Percussion World Championships, Dan sits down with his friend Tommy Roam of The Bluecoats and Kettering Fairmont High School. They discuss holistic approaches to percussion education, how Tommy has built the culture between his middle school and high school programs, and their current outlooks on 2023 Percussion Independent World.
Episode Time Stamps
00:00:00 - 00:03:34 - Intro
00:03:34 - 00:07:30 - How's it going at Kettering this season?
00:07:31 - 00:09:51 - Beefing up your middle school program as a feeder for your high school programs
00:09:52 - 00:11:05 - Are you training your students in a certain style of drumming or more rhythmic concepts?
00:11:06 - 00:14:50 - "There's no one correct way to do things [when it comes to teaching]" and how you're going to learn from other people and it's going to be different
00:14:51 - 00:19:55 - Knocking down the walls percussion sections sometimes put up between each other and teaching with the intent of making the ensemble better holistically. "I see it all as music."
00:19:56 - 00:22:23 - Zooming out your lens so you can better help the kids be successful
00:22:24 - 00:24:33 - Being a hybrid percussionist and the qualities of a great drummer
00:24:34 - 00:26:04 - Exposing the students to more than just one kind of instrument to help them be a better overall percussionists
00:26:05 - 00:31:21 - Embracing discomfort and how to be a reliable member
00:31:22 - 00:32:38 - Being okay with being terrible before you're able to develop your skills, both as a member and a percussionist. "It's all about just how much you care about it."
00:32:39 - 00:33:53 - We're nothing without passion for what we do
00:33:54 - 00:40:05 - Embracing the grind but also embracing having fun with your fellow members
00:40:06 - 00:42:08 - Creating culture intentionally within a program
00:42:09 - 00:44:02 - Being authentic
00:44:03 - 00:45:46 - Showing up every day as a teacher who makes your students better, and being okay with the members checking you when you're not
00:45:47 - 00:49:45 - How do you get your membership to believe in what you're doing?
00:49:46 - 00:53:10 - Focusing on the craft rather than the outcome
00:53:11 - 00:56:47 - How you Tommy's experiences of teaching the Bluecoats vs a high school/middle school group inform your teaching philosophy?
00:56:48 - 00:59:42 - Seeing members you've taught from a young age go on to instill your teaching in their students
00:59:43 - 01:04:15 - What makes a bass drummer ready and equipped to audition for a top DCI group?
01:04:16 - 01:06:28 - Make yourself a machine backed by consistent skills
01:06:29 - 01:11:20 - What is your take on members reaching out to staff members ahead of DCI auditions?
01:12:20 - 01:18:20 - Tommy's take on the 2023 PIW landscape & what shows he's seen
01:18:21 - 01:28:51- Why you should lean into your own group's style and try something new rather than emulating someone else's style
01:28:52 - End - Outtro
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Talking Shop with WGI Judge Teddy Mascari
The 2023 indoor season has officially begun as groups roll out their shows locally and video clips of lots and shows start to populate across social media. With WGI Percussion Regional season kicking off this weekend, Dan sits down with his friend Teddy Mascari, a Music Effect judge for Winter Guard International and an educational leader in Upstate New York. They discuss approaches to judging and how to give great feedback, a judge’s relationship to the programs they adjudicate, ways of interpreting the sheets, and various trends within indoor percussion and the marching arts.
Episode Time Stamps
00:00:00 - 00:05:10 - Intro
00:05:10 - 00:08:15 - Leaked shows online and keeping the judging objectivity
00:08:15 - 00:12:18 - Understanding judging critiques and how to take in that information
00:12:18 - 00:16:45 - Approach to commentary and feedback for ensembles in Independent World vs other classes
00:16:45 - 00:22:16 - "Checking the boxes" on a scoresheet vs giving feedback that's appropriate based on the time of the season
00:22:16 - 00:25:46 - Does a show need to make sense for a judge?
00:25:46 - 00:30:43 - The talent disparity between the top groups and those on the cusp of making Finals
00:30:43 - 00:34:28 - Broken City, George Mason, and how they've developed a "style" that people can identify
00:34:28 - 00:38:42 - The trap of emulating the top groups
00:38:42 - 00:40:30 - Crowd reactions and video leaks immediately following performances
00:40:30 - 00:53:35 - The cost (literal and figurative) of introducing higher production value shows through TVs, lights, etc.
00:53:35 - 01:03:19 - How to make your local judges better judges through education
01:03:19 - end - Outtro
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Customer Reviews
Forward Thinking
So far this is an incredible podcast for percussion educators and designers with some of the hottest names in the business, but also ANY educator or anyone that works in any activity or career where forward thinkers are desperately needed.
Finally
Great to finally have a show that fills a huge void in the podcast world.