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This podcast is an exploration of diversity, inclusion, and equity and how these things show up, (or don’t) in our personal and professional communities.

Weeze and Trudi are JEDI Masters, (Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion,) who fundamentally believe that we all have a responsibility to create safer spaces, center marginalized communities and just do better!

If you like what you hear join us in our That’s Not How That Works facebook group to continue the conversation!
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That's Not How That Works Trudi & Weeze

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This podcast is an exploration of diversity, inclusion, and equity and how these things show up, (or don’t) in our personal and professional communities.

Weeze and Trudi are JEDI Masters, (Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion,) who fundamentally believe that we all have a responsibility to create safer spaces, center marginalized communities and just do better!

If you like what you hear join us in our That’s Not How That Works facebook group to continue the conversation!
https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/

Enjoy the Show!

    Ep. 91: Season Finale: Do Your Work While We’re Away

    Ep. 91: Season Finale: Do Your Work While We’re Away

    It’s the end of the fall 2020 season for That’s Not How That Works, so today we want to have a conversation about what we want to leave you with and what we hope you do from here. Listen in as we remind you what the hell this work is about in the first place (and what it ISN’T), what you can do to make sure you are moving the baton forward in this work, what you should do with those goal posts you’ve been setting, why you cannot center whiteness in any of this work and what you need to focus on centering instead.

    Find out how you can work with us:

    https://www.trudilebron.com/letswork
    https://www.accordingtoweeze.com/

    Podia: https://accordingtoweeze.podia.com/weeze

    Revisit the summer syllabus:

    Foundational
    Episode 68 - The Basics: justice, equity, diversity & inclusion: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-68-the-basics-justice-equity-diversity-inclusion

    Episode 25 - Can White folks Experience Racism? (and how TNHTW almost got cancelled):
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep25

    Episode 76 - Education vs. Action: Each plays a role in equity but only one creates change:
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-76-education-vs-action-each-plays-a-role-in-equity-but-only-one-creates-change

    From Ally to Accomplice
    Episode 19 - Lets Cut the BS: From Ally to Accomplice:
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-19-lets-cut-the-b******t-from-ally-to-accomplice

    Episode 70 - Wait WTF…I can be down and still not be woke?:
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/wait-wtfi-can-be-down-and-still-not-be-woke

    Episode 29 - When Glennon Doyle’s Attempt at Allyship Went Wrong:
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep29

    Whiteness
    Episode 37 - The Basics of White Centering:
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep37

    Episode 41 - Whitesplaining and Webster…A look at language:
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep41

    Episode 10 - Don’t Be A BBQ Becky:
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-10-dont-be-a-bbq-becky

    Safety
    Episode 64 - Safe Space, a journey: the what, how & how not!:
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-64-safe-space-a-journey-the-what-how-how-not

    Episode 46 - Do White Folks Deserve Safe Spaces?:
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep46

    Episode 60 - Byron Katie, The Fairy Godmother of Spiritual Bypassing:
    https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-60-byron-katie-the-fairy-godmother-of-spiritual-bypassing


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    Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins
    https://www.aganee.com
    https://instagram.com/therealaganee

    • 1 hr 6 min
    Ep. 90: A Tale of White Womaning: Boundaries, Consent & Silencing, Oh My!

    Ep. 90: A Tale of White Womaning: Boundaries, Consent & Silencing, Oh My!

    It’s story time! On today’s episode, we’re recounting a little scenario that happened recently in Trudi’s free private Facebook group that caused her to hit up Weeze on a weekend to discuss. Today we’re not only exploring non-disparage clauses in coaching contracts — what they are and why they are harmful — but also boundaries and consent, silencing and erasure, restorative justice and how to do it right, as well as what ACTUALLY happened in this thread in the Facebook group and what SHOULD have happened instead. This tale of Karen, Karen, and Karen is one you don’t want to miss.

    • 59 min
    Ep. 89: Today, We Literally Do Not Care

    Ep. 89: Today, We Literally Do Not Care

    Shit is about to get real, y’all. With everything going on lately — the new Supreme Court confirmation, yet ANOTHER Black man murdered by police, and the upcoming election to name a few — Trudi & Weeze are bringing you an old school throwback episode today. Listen in as we share what it’s like for us to be in the work that we do, the values we have, the ACTUAL goal of the work we do, and everything that’s on our minds, bodies, and souls right now.

    Follow us on Instagram:
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    Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins
    https://www.aganee.com
    https://instagram.com/therealaganee

    • 55 min
    Ep. 88: Ongoing Accountability

    Ep. 88: Ongoing Accountability

    So you’ve made a public statement that you’re behind the Black Lives Matter movement and committed to anti-racism. But what does it mean to make a commitment like this and be accountable to these commitments? On today’s episode, Trudi and Weeze are exploring what accountability looks like (in a real way!), why it feels hard, and one of the MOST IMPORTANT things you can do to stay accountable. We're also diving into the most recent example of how companies prioritize profit over people.

    Follow us on Instagram:
    https://instagram.com/trudilebron
    https://instagram.com/accordingtoweeze
    https://instagram.com/nothowthatworks

    Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins
    https://www.aganee.com
    https://instagram.com/therealaganee

    • 51 min
    Ep. 87: White Saviorism - Final Answer

    Ep. 87: White Saviorism - Final Answer

    You might be a white savior if…

    Seriously y’all… we get questions about this one on the daily. “Am I a white savior? What are people gonna think of me if I share online about the work I’m doing? How do I make sure I’m not crossing the line into white saviorism?”

    So on today’s episode, Trudi and Weeze are sharing our FINAL ANSWER on this one. We’re exploring all about white saviorism: what it is, why it’s so dangerous, the difference between white identity and whiteness, and how to make sure you don’t show up in spaces as a white savior.

    For the full breakdown of white saviorism, go back and check out Episode 19: Let’s Cut the BS: From Ally to Accomplice - https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-19-lets-cut-the-b******t-from-ally-to-accomplice

    Follow us on Instagram:
    https://instagram.com/trudilebron
    https://instagram.com/accordingtoweeze
    https://instagram.com/nothowthatworks

    Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins
    https://www.aganee.com
    https://instagram.com/therealaganee

    • 56 min
    Ep. 86: Ibram X Kendi and How to Not to Write About Being An Anti-Racist

    Ep. 86: Ibram X Kendi and How to Not to Write About Being An Anti-Racist

    If you’re looking for a guide on how to be an anti-racist, Ibram Kendi’s book “How to Be an Anti-Racist” is NOT it, y’all. On today’s episode, Trudi and Weeze are diving into this controversial book, why the title is problematic and not accurate, who this book is best for and what it REALLY is, what could have made it better, and what we recommend you read instead if you’re on your own journey towards anti-racism.

    Check out Ep. 25: Can White Folks Experience Racism? (and how TNHTW almost got cancelled) -- https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep25

    Follow us on Instagram:
    https://instagram.com/trudilebron
    https://instagram.com/accordingtoweeze
    https://instagram.com/nothowthatworks

    Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins
    https://www.aganee.com
    https://instagram.com/therealaganee

    • 41 min

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Grateful Fly on the wall

Thank you for allowing myself, and others like me, in on these extremely real conversations.

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Get Educated with Weeze and Trudi!

Weeze and Trudi are not only experts in their fields, but their authenticity and ability to tell it like it is really helps you confront the issues. They don't shame, they hold their audience accountable, and give their listeners a lot to chew on and think about. I love that they break down everything to make all the concepts understandable and how we can make ourselves more actionable. It's 1000% changing my life.

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A Master Class

Weeze & Trudi are experts in their fields and I’m so thankful they are willing to share their expertise with us. Providing both tangible definitions/information and insights in how to do better, these women have helped to open my eyes onto the impact of my actions and language & clear corrections. I’m grateful to be able to listen to TNHTW and learn from them each week.

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