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Welcome to The Apologetics Podcast! In each episode of this thoughtful but lighthearted podcast, bestselling apologetics author Timothy Paul Jones joins cohost Garrick Bailey and top biblical scholars to wrestle with questions related to evidence for the truth of Christianity. Previously known as ”Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast.”

The Apologetics Podcast Timothy Paul Jones and Garrick Bailey

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Welcome to The Apologetics Podcast! In each episode of this thoughtful but lighthearted podcast, bestselling apologetics author Timothy Paul Jones joins cohost Garrick Bailey and top biblical scholars to wrestle with questions related to evidence for the truth of Christianity. Previously known as ”Three Chords and the Truth: The Apologetics Podcast.”

    Huey Lewis and the News: The Holy Trinity and “The Power of Love”

    Huey Lewis and the News: The Holy Trinity and “The Power of Love”

    Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones have already devoted one entire episode of this podcast to love. That was when they discussed Foreigner’s 1984 hit “I Want to Know What Love Is.” 

    But Garrick and Timothy are far too full of love to fit all of their feelings about love into a single episode. 

    That’s why they’re joining forces with Huey Lewis to talk about love again in this special Three Chords and the Truth episode of The Apologetics Podcast.

    Along the way, the dynamic duo discusses the history of Huey Lewis and the News, Augustine of Hippo, the Trinity, and the widespread contemporary declaration that “love is love.” 

    In the end, they discover that, unless the nature of God defines love, “love” distorts something good that God designed for our joy and for his glory. Also, “American Express” was probably a better name for Huey Lewis’ band than “the News.” If only they had spelled it as “Ämërïcän Ëxprëss,” they might have been successful in keeping their original name as well as avoiding being sued by the credit-card company of the same name.

    In this installment of “Behind the Covers,” Garrick and Timothy take a look at a song that was popularized on the Grand Funk Railroad album “All the Girls in the World Beware!!!,” in which Grand Funk Railroad outdid Van Halen’s song “Everybody Wants Some!!” by adding three exclamation points instead of stopping at a mere two. If only they had added umlauts as well, the title would have been perfect. The cover song this time is “Some Kind of Wonderful,” and your intrepid cohosts agree that Rod Stewart’s cover version isn’t wonderful at all.

    ABOUT HOSTS
    Timothy Paul Jones, Ph.D., is C. Edwin Gheens Professor of Christian Ministry at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He teaches in the areas of family ministry and applied apologetics. He has authored or edited more than a dozen books, including Why Should I Trust the Bible?, The God Who Goes Before You, Perspectives on Family Ministry, and Christian History Made Easy. Follow Dr. Jones at @DrTimothyPJones.

    Garrick Bailey is a Ph.D. student in systematic theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, studying Herman Bavinck and Roman Catholicism under the supervision of Gregg Allison.

    LINKS TO CLICK
    Some Kind of Wonderful (Soul Brothers Six, 1967)

    Some King of Wonderful (Grand Funk Railroad, 1974)

    Some Kind of Wonderful (Huey Lewis & The News, 1994)

    Some Kind of Wonderful (Rod Stewart, 2021)

    Some Kind of Wonderful (Little Milton, 1999)

    Some Kind of Wonderful (Joss Stone, 2003)

    Some Kind of Wonderful (Mark Farner, 1992)

    The Power of Love (Huey Lewis & The News, 1985)

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    Urban Ministry Podcast

    CLOSING CREDITS
    Music for the podcast has been licensed through Artlist.io and performed by Cunningham Manor. Brief excerpts of music played in each program are included solely for the purposes of comment and critique as allowed under the fair-use provision of U.S. copyright law. “The fair use of a copyrighted work … for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, … scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright” (U.S. Code § 107, Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use).

    • 58 min
    Abortion, Apologetics, and the End of Roe v. Wade, with Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones

    Abortion, Apologetics, and the End of Roe v. Wade, with Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones

    “The Constitution does not confer a right to abortion; Roe and Casey are overruled; and the authority to regulate abortion is returned to the people and their elected representatives.”

    With those words, the United States Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the 1973 decision that declared a federal constitutional right to abortion.

    So what now?

    How should churches respond to this ruling? How can this decision be turned into an opportunity for apologetics? And what's been the historical perspective of Christians when it comes to abortion?

    That's what Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones discuss in this special episode of The Apologetics Podcast. What you'll discover as you listen is that Christians have been talking about abortion far longer than you may have imagined. Abortion has even shown up in apologetics conversations, although probably not in the ways that you might expect. This leads the dynamic duo into a discussion of a song by one of Timothy's favorite bands, King's X; the song is "Legal Kill."

    In the Raiders of Church History segment, Garrick finds a long-lost saint's tongue and sends it into battle against a crusader's lance. The result is a tongue piercing, which is something that your intrepid cohosts never imagined might happen on this particular podcast.

    ABOUT HOSTS
    Timothy Paul Jones, Ph.D., is C. Edwin Gheens Professor of Christian Ministry at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He teaches in the areas of family ministry and applied apologetics. He has authored or edited more than a dozen books, including Why Should I Trust the Bible?, The God Who Goes Before You, Perspectives on Family Ministry, and Christian History Made Easy. Follow Dr. Jones at @DrTimothyPJones.

    Garrick Bailey is a Ph.D. student in systematic theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, studying Herman Bavinck and Roman Catholicism under the supervision of Gregg Allison.

    LINKS TO CLICK
    De Anima (Tertullian of Carthage)

    “Exodus,” in Expositor’s Bible Commentary: Revised Edition: Genesis—Leviticus (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 2008), 492–493. (Walter Kaiser)

    Legal Kill (King's X)

    Patreon Support

    theapologeticspodcast.com

    Urban Ministry Podcast

    CLOSING CREDITS
    Music for the podcast has been licensed through Artlist.io and performed by Cunningham Manor. Brief excerpts of music played in each program are included solely for the purposes of comment and critique as allowed under the fair-use provision of U.S. copyright law. “The fair use of a copyrighted work … for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, … scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright” (U.S. Code § 107, Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use).

    • 56 min
    What If Our Bibles Don’t Have the Right Words? with Michael Kruger

    What If Our Bibles Don’t Have the Right Words? with Michael Kruger

    If you like talking about ancient objects, this episode is for you. And, by "ancient objects," we don't mean things like typewriters, printed telephone books, and those AOL compact discs that used to show up in your mailbox every week. 

    We're talking about items that are really old. 

    Like, older than Keith Richards and Willie Nelson.

    And so, if ancient artifacts are your thing, join Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones on this exhilarating episode in which the dynamic duo discusses ancient texts, ancient abbreviations, ancient chains … and an ancient pelvis.

    Yes, an ancient pelvis.

    The episode begins with a battle between the chains of St. Paul and the pelvis of St. Nicholas—and by “St. Nicholas” we mean St. Nicholas of Myra, better known as “Santa Claus.” As it turns out, the pelvis of St. Nicholas is no longer connected to the rest of St. Nicholas, and one portion of his pelvis is thought by some to reside in a relic repository in the Chicago suburb of Morton Grove, Illinois.

    In Raiders of Church History, Timothy brings this intimate artifact into battle, certain that nothing could possibly defeat the pelvis of Santa Claus. (Also: “St. Nïck's Pëlvïs” would be a great name for a punk band that plays Christmas carols.) But then Garrick brings the chains that bound St. Paul, and the battle between your intrepid cohosts spins completely out of control. 

    And that’s when Dr. Michael Kruger shows up to save the day.

    That’s right: Michael Kruger, president of the Charlotte campus of the Reformed Theological Seminary and preeminent scholar of early Christianity, joins us to talk about the reliability of the copies and the canon of the New Testament. While considering the ancient text of the New Testament, Dr. Kruger deals with some of the claims made by Bart Ehrman in his best-selling books Forged: Writing in the Name of God—Why the Bible's Authors Are Not Who We Think They Are and Misquoting Jesus: The Story Behind Who Changed the Bible and Why. Along the way, we also learn about an ancient pattern of abbreviations known as “nomina sacra” and the greatness of U2.

    ABOUT GUEST AND HOSTS
    Michael J. Kruger, Ph.D., serves as the President and Samuel C. Patterson Professor of New Testament and Early Christianity at the Charlotte campus of Reformed Theological Seminary. He earned his Ph.D. under one of the world’s leading text-critical scholars, Larry W. Hurtado, at the University of Edinburgh. Dr. Kruger is one of the world's leading scholars of the origins of the New Testament and the development of the New Testament canon. He is the author of twelve books, most recently Christianity at the Crossroads: How the Second Century Shaped the Future of the Church (2018). Timothy Paul Jones, Ph.D., is C. Edwin Gheens Professor of Christian Ministry at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He teaches in the areas of family ministry and applied apologetics. He has authored or edited more than a dozen books, including Why Should I Trust the Bible?, The God Who Goes Before You, Perspectives on Family Ministry, and Christian History Made Easy. Follow Dr. Jones at @DrTimothyPJones. Garrick Bailey is a Ph.D. student in systematic theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, studying Herman Bavinck and Roman Catholicism under the supervision of Gregg Allison.

    LINKS TO CLICK
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    CLOSING CREDITS
    Music for the podcast has been licensed through Artlist.io and performed by Cunningham Manor. Brief excerpts of music played in each program are included solely for the purposes of comment and critique as allowed under the fair-use provision of U.S. copyright law. “The fair use of a copyrighted work … for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, … scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright” (U.S. Code § 107, Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use).

    • 42 min
    Doubt, Deconstruction, and an Apologetic of Kindness, with Keith Plummer

    Doubt, Deconstruction, and an Apologetic of Kindness, with Keith Plummer

    Welcome to the Very Kind Episode of The Apologetics Podcast!

    Of course, almost every episode of this podcast is kind of kind, mostly because Garrick is just that kind of person. But this episode is the kind of episode that’s particularly kind, because we’re joined by Dr. Keith Plummer, who is widely renowned for his special kind of kindness.

    Even the battle between your intrepid cohosts in Indiana, Jones, and the Raiders of Church History turns out to be cuddly and kind. Timothy puts a Pomeranian puppy named “Belferlein” into battle against Garrick's weapon of choice, which is a belt that once belonged to Mary the mother of Jesus. In the end, the belt is turned into a leash, and the dynamic duo decides to stop fighting and cuddle the puppy instead. That’s when Dr. Keith Plummer shows up, and things get even kinder.

    Dr. Plummer is one of the contributors to a very kind recent book entitled Before You Lose Your Faith: Deconstructing Doubt in the Church (The Gospel Coalition, 2021). In this episode, he is kind enough to talk to us about social media, deconversion, doubt, and the Doobie Brothers—a band whose 1976 hit “What a Fool Believes” includes the line “You don't know my kind.” All in all, this episode of The Apologetics Podcast is a one-of-a-kind experience in which even Timothy is kind, which is kind of rare. Also, “Bëlfërlëïn” would be the perfect name for a German industrial metal band, as long as they're a very kind band that likes dogs.

    ABOUT GUEST AND HOSTS
    Keith Plummer, Ph.D., is the Professor of Theology and Dean of the School of Divinity at Cairn University in Pennsylvania. He has a Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School, where he also earned his M.Div. in Apologetics. Follow Dr. Plummer at @XianMind. Timothy Paul Jones, Ph.D., is C. Edwin Gheens Professor of Christian Ministry at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He teaches in the areas of family ministry and applied apologetics. He has authored or edited more than a dozen books, including Why Should I Trust the Bible?, The God Who Goes Before You, Perspectives on Family Ministry, and Christian History Made Easy. Garrick Bailey is a Ph.D. student in systematic theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, studying Herman Bavinck and Roman Catholicism under the supervision of Gregg Allison.

    LINKS TO CLICK
    Before You Lose Your Faith: Deconstructing Doubt in the Church (The Gospel Coalition, 2021)

    The Digital Public Square: Christian Ethics in a Technological Society (B&H Academic, 2023)

    25 Basic Bible Studies: Including Two Contents, Two Realities (Francis Schaeffer)

    Patreon Support

    theapologeticspodcast.com

    Urban Ministry Podcast

    CLOSING CREDITS
    Music for the podcast has been licensed through Artlist.io and performed by Cunningham Manor. Brief excerpts of music played in each program are included solely for the purposes of comment and critique as allowed under the fair-use provision of U.S. copyright law. “The fair use of a copyrighted work … for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, … scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright” (U.S. Code § 107, Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use).

    • 55 min
    Did the Council of Nicaea Choose the Books of the Bible? with Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones

    Did the Council of Nicaea Choose the Books of the Bible? with Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones

    The books of the Bible were selected in the year 325 at the Council of Nicaea, right?

    That's what a lot of Christians seem to think.

    But is this story true? 

    If it isn't true, how did the tale of a council that created the canon begin in the first place?

    Those are the questions that your intrepid cohosts Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones explore in this episode.

    As with almost every explanation that Garrick and Timothy give, the answer turns out to be far weirder than you ever imagined. It involves a prayer, a table, and books that fall miraculously onto the floor. Also, it entails Timothy speaking these words to Garrick, which also could have appeared in a fortune cookie if Garrick and Timothy were writing the fortunes in the cookies: "The canon of Scripture and the Council of Nicaea are like Elvis Presley and 'American Pie,' dude."

    The only way to comprehend Timothy's cryptic proclamation is to listen to this podcast episode in its entirety.

    Also in this episode, the dynamic duo throws the bones of Edward the Confessor into battle against a creature that you probably thought existed only in Dumbledore's office, even though it's described in an early Christian sermon.  Without revealing the outcome, let's just say that Edward the Confessor stays dead and that early Christians believed in some zoological phenomena that you probably don't.

    Also, why hasn't anyone ever named their band "Phöënïx"?

     

    ABOUT HOSTS

    Timothy Paul Jones, Ph.D., is C. Edwin Gheens Professor of Christian Ministry at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. He teaches in the areas of family ministry and applied apologetics. He has authored or edited more than a dozen books, including Why Should I Trust the Bible?, The God Who Goes Before You, Perspectives on Family Ministry, and Christian History Made Easy. Follow Dr. Jones at @DrTimothyPJones.

     

    Garrick Bailey is a Ph.D. student in systematic theology at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, studying Herman Bavinck and Roman Catholicism under the supervision of Gregg Allison.

     

    LINKS TO CLICK

    How We Got the Bible (book by Timothy Paul Jones)

    Patreon Support

    theapologeticspodcast.com

    Urban Ministry Podcast

     

    CLOSING CREDITS

    Music for the podcast has been licensed through Artlist.io and performed by Cunningham Manor. Brief excerpts of music played in each program are included solely for the purposes of comment and critique as allowed under the fair-use provision of U.S. copyright law. “The fair use of a copyrighted work … for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, … scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright” (U.S. Code § 107, Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use).

    • 58 min
    How the Life of the Church Defends the Truth of the Faith, with Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones

    How the Life of the Church Defends the Truth of the Faith, with Garrick Bailey and Timothy Paul Jones

    Garrick and Timothy bravely prevent the demise of apologetics. They do this by showing how the life of the church provides a defense of the faith. Also, Live Aid would never have happened in 1985 if it hadn’t been for the rise of Christianity nearly two thousand years earlier.

    • 58 min

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