
54 episodes

The Art Law Podcast Steven Schindler & Katie Wilson-Milne
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5.0 • 99 Ratings
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The Art Law Podcast hosts discussions about topics at the intersection of art and law with art lawyers Steve Schindler and Katie Wilson-Milne and their distinguished guests.
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What Can Artificial Intelligence Offer Art Authentication?
Steve and Katie speak with Dr. Carina Popovici, CEO and Founder of Art Recognition, an art and technology startup that uses AI systems to evaluation the authenticity of artworks. They discuss the problems with authentication in the traditional art market and the promise and limitations of AI in solving these problems along with some real-world examples.
Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2023/09/06/ what-can-artificial-intelligence-offer-art-authentication/
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Do Market Players React to Court Decisions Impacting Art?
Katie and Steve speak with WIPO economists Alexander Cuntz and Matthias Sahli about their recent article, Intermediary liability and trade in follow-on innovation, published in the Journal of Cultural Economics in February 2023. Their research looks at how intermediaries in the art market altered their behavior after the Second Circuit’s decision in Cariou v. Prince, which was seen as greatly expanding permissible fair use in appropriation art. THIS PODCAST WAS RECORDED BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT’S DECISION IN THE WARHOL CASE, WHICH PULLED BACK ON THE TRANSFORMATIVE USE ANALYSIS FOR COPYRIGHT FAIR USE.
Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2023/07/05/do-market-players-react-to-court-decisions-impacting-art/
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SCOTUS Says Warhol Not So Fast: The Limitations of Transformative Use
Katie and Steve talk to Philippa Loengard, copyright expert and Director of the Kernochan Center for Law, Media and the Arts at Columbia Law School, about the much-anticipated Supreme Court decision in Andy Warhol Foundation v. Goldsmith, which resets and limits the applicability of “transformative” fair use as an exception to copyright infringement.
Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2023/06/05/scotus-says-warhol-not-so-fast-the-limitations-of-transformative-use/
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Fashion, NFTs, and Artistic Expression
Katie and Steve talk to attorney Emily Poler, founder of Poler Legal, about the recent lawsuit between the iconic French fashion house Hermès and an NFT creator, Mason Rothschild, over Rothschild’s “MetaBirkin” NFTs. Hermès claimed that Rothschild infringed Hermès’ trademark in the name “Birkin.” Hermès prevailed on this claim (and others) in a jury trial earlier this year. Katie, Steve, and Emily discuss the contours of this lawsuit and the reach of trademark law to police fashion brands, copyright’s limitations, and trademark law’s applicability to artistic expression, especially in the context of NFTs.
Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2023/04/04/fashion-nfts-and-artistic-expression/
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The Promise of NFTs for Artists and the Art Market
Steve and Katie speak with Amy Whitaker about her new book with Nora Burnett Abrams, The Story of NFTs: Artists, Technology and Democracy. Amy describes her vision for the promise of NFTs for artists and a more equitable art market and discusses the democratic incentives NFTs create in this world. They discuss NFTs in the context of the current moment of uncertainty around the future of cryptocurrency, the blockchain, and the value of NFTs in general and the potential problems and limitations of NFTs within the fine art ecosystem.
The Story of NFTs: Artists, Technology, and Democracy: https://www.rizzoliusa.com/book/9780847899364/
Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2023/03/01/the-promise-of-nfts-for-artists-and-the-art-market/
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The Art Seizures of the Spanish Civil War
Katie and Steve talk to Spanish art lawyer and scholar, Patricia Fernández, about the history of thousands of artwork seizures during the Spanish Civil War and the Spanish government’s actions with respect to these artworks since then through today.
Notes for this episode: http://artlawpodcast.com/2023/01/17/the-art-seizures-of-the-spanish-civil-war/
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Customer Reviews
Love this podcast!
Really accessible for non-lawyers. Katie and Steve are just great and the guests are always interesting.
Great content
Thank you for making this. Interesting for lawyers and non-lawyers alike! Superb content.
Students Love It!
Every semester in my online art history class, I assign students to listen to one episode of this podcast to help them learn about the contemporary art world. They come away with not only a better understanding, but they produce excellent insights and conversations about what they learned. I believe that this is one of the most suitable podcasts to get students thinking critically about art. Thank you!