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On this episode of The Banker's Corner, Kyle Brown, Managing Director at Brown Gibbons Lang & Company joins McGuireWoods' Geoff Cockrell to discuss the latest developments in healthcare private equity investing.
With the current deal market offering lower valuations, companies are looking at internal improvements, such as operations and platform infrastructure, as well as mergers and organic growth strategies. Kyle discusses how diversification, platform infrastructure, and a true dual-pronged growth strategy are key drivers of value regardless of the sub-sector.
“Sure, buy-and-build all day. You have that integration strategy in spades, great. But I've seen, and not because of the debt financing markets, but really since COVID, folks are putting a premium on de novo growth strategies,” Kyle says. 
Kyle and Geoff also discuss two subsectors that they predict will have increased investor activity in 2023: orthopedics and pain management.  Both sectors have unique traits that add value to investors and make them ideal for investment activity. 
Featured GuestName: Kyle Brown
What he does: Kyle is the Managing Director at Brown Gibbons Lang & Company. He is a senior member of BGL’s Healthcare & Life Sciences team, focusing on Healthcare Provider Services. 
Organization: Brown Gibbons Lang & Company
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On this episode of The Banker's Corner, McGuireWoods' Geoff Cockrell invites Raj Kothari, Managing Director at Cascade Partners, to discuss the current challenges of the healthcare investing market.
An uncertain market and disagreements on valuations have created an interesting start to 2023, which saw a decrease in transactions in the first quarter. For those looking to make larger healthcare sales, the general consensus seems to be  to wait until Q2 or Q3 and see if market conditions improve.
Raj recognizes that buyers are being more thoughtful and cautious when considering a deal. However, the lower and middle market valuations are holding up. 
“If you’re an investor, you're looking for long-term cyclical trends, and all the long-term cyclical trends say that [healthcare-related services] are going to work well,” Raj says on why he chooses to play in the healthcare sector. “If you've got a good service or technology that lowers costs or improves efficiency, and does anything to help, it's going to get more and more traction.”
Featured GuestName: Rajesh Kothari
What he does: Raj is the founder and managing director of Cascade Partners where he leads divestitures, recapitalizations, acquisitions, and other strategic transactions for clients in the healthcare, industrials, business services, and technology sectors. He has also co-managed multiple private equity funds and dozens of early-stage investments to buyout.
Organization: Cascade Partners
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With higher interest rates causing anxiety throughout much of the first quarter of 2023, McGuireWoods' Geoff Cockrell invites David Baker, Managing Director at FTI Consulting Group, to share his view of the market and how it’s impacting sellers in the M&A space. 
Healthcare as an industry is more resilient in a down economy, David explains, as demand is less likely to be impacted by economic factors. This resilience attracts investors looking to avoid the challenges present in other sectors. 
“I think what attracts a lot of investors to the segment is how steady it is,” says David. “Healthcare hasn't had the highs and lows that many other sectors have gotten over the years.” 
The healthcare economy needs efficiency to close the current gap between demand and supply, and investors who find these solutions will emerge as winners. With interest rates on the rise, David provides insights into how this is impacting overall pricing and deal structures, along with what buyers and sellers need to be considering.
 
Featured GuestName: David Baker
What he does: David is a member of FTI Capital Advisors, FTI Consulting’s investment banking subsidiary. He has over 30 years of experience in international M&A, capital formation, partnership agreements, and corporate strategic development.
Organization: FTI Consulting
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On this episode of The Banker's Corner, McGuireWoods' Geoff Cockrell chats with Larry Barr, Partner at Middle Branch Partners, to discuss the buy side of private equity transactions, particularly in the healthcare industry. 
Investors looking for buy-side representation benefit from working with firms that have in-depth knowledge of the specific segment they are interested in and with partners who have long-standing relationships in that area. For buyers looking to validate their purchase hypothesis, working with a knowledgeable firm and advisory board can provide operational insights and relationship connections needed to validate a potential deal. 
Larry also shares his take on some of the drivers bringing private equity investment into the MedTech space. Despite uncertain waters due to macroeconomic dynamics and uncertainty around credit availability, Larry remains bullish on MedTech. 
“I'm one of those that's a perennial bull,” Larry explains, “As I like to say, I couldn't do what I do for a living if I wasn't an optimist.” He cites the recent MedTech deal, coming in at just under $200 million, as proof that there are good transactions in the market and people are going to find a way to close them. 
Featured GuestName: Larry Barr
What he does: Larry has been instrumental in building key strategic relationships between businesses in MedTech that have provided owners and investors with opportunities for growth and liquidity. Based on his prior experience, he understands the need to take a relationship based approach to achieve desirable outcomes for his clients. This has included M&A activities in various markets including respiratory, orthopedic, interventional, medical equipment, and other devices across diverse geographies including Asia, Europe, and Israel.  Prior to this, he served as CFO in middle market firms and in lower middle market leading at MB Financial Bank, Fifth Third, and The Bank of Montreal.
Organization: Middle Branch Partners
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On this episode of The Banker's Corner, McGuireWoods' Geoff Cockrell sits down with Geoff Smith, a managing director in and co-head of the Healthcare & Life Sciences Group at Harris Williams, and Charles Busch, a vice president in the Healthcare & Life Sciences Group at Harris Williams. They both have spent much of their careers working specifically in the physician practice management (PPM) and consumer healthcare sectors.
PPM and the consumer healthcare sector are often referred to interchangeably, but they have very different needs and areas of focus in the market. In consumer healthcare, patients play a more prominent role in their choice of providers, leading to a larger overall focus on the consumer experience. PPM, by contrast, is more often driven by referrals. But these distinctions are softening.
“One of the things that we've certainly seen over the last 20 years, which has really accelerated in the last few, is that the lines are blurring between traditional, pure PPM and consumer healthcare,” Geoff Smith explains. “One of the things that we've seen and work with clients to help them think through is exactly how to describe their company, how to describe their positioning, how to think about it from both a patient or a consumer perspective, as well as from a potential investor perspective.”
Geoff and Charles explore the appeal of PPM to investors, who are increasingly drawn to the market’s long-term tailwinds, positive supply and demand dynamics, and reimbursement stability. They also reflect on the current market and what trends they expect to see in the future.
Featured GuestsName: Geoff Smith
What he does: Geoff is a managing director in and co-head of the Healthcare & Life Sciences Group at Harris Williams, where he has worked broadly across the healthcare landscape and spent a significant portion of his career focused on consumer healthcare and physician practice management.
Organization: Harris Williams
Connect: LinkedIn
Name: Charles Busch
What he does: Charles is a vice president in the Healthcare & Life Sciences Group at Harris Williams, where he spends the majority of his time in physician practice management, with a focus on dermatology and orthopedics.
Organization: Harris Williams
Connect: LinkedIn

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On this episode of The Banker's Corner, McGuireWoods' Geoff Cockrell invites Mikel Parker, Head of Investment Banking and Managing Director at AMB, to discuss current valuation trends in healthcare IT and other sub-sectors. 
As a firm, AMB broadly focuses on healthcare services, healthcare IT, and pharma services, but during this episode, Mikel mainly discusses healthcare IT trends and insights to the company’s services in this sector. 
Mikel breaks down the healthcare IT market, pinpointing four main sectors within the concentrated field, as well as the two types of buyers he comes across in his work. In a COVID-world, the trend toward more digital monitoring and healthcare access continues to grow, opening up opportunities for investors and companies alike. From ongoing trends to down-the-line predictions, Mikel discusses all things transactional within the world of AMB, particularly this growing field of healthcare IT.  
Featured GuestName: Mikel Parker
What he does: As the Head of Investment Banking and the Managing Director at AMB, Mikel handles client strategy, sourcing deals and transaction execution. Over the course of his 20+ years in financial services and investment banking, Mikel has executed transactions across a wide spectrum of industries. 
Organization: AMB
Connect: LinkedIn
Notes From the Banker’s CornerTop takeaways from this episode
★    Healthcare IT has been, and will continue to be, a popular trend. Mikel predicts healthcare IT will continue to prove profitable as companies adjust to this new COVID-world where the digitization of healthcare is so much more vital than it was pre-pandemic. 
★     The market is shifting models. Trends seem to show that companies are shifting from transaction-based models to recurring-based models. In other words, companies are changing models to improve their profit margins by switching revenue models. 
★     There are four sectors of healthcare IT. Throughout his many transactions with AMB, Mikel has observed four main categories, or sub-sectors, within the realm of healthcare IT: revenue cycle management, patient engagement, HIM coding, and services-side monitoring. As an advisor, each of these needs to be tended to and organized in order for the client to achieve the most success. 
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