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Behavioral Grooves is a discussion of the application of behavioral sciences to work and life. It's the WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO podcast. Kurt Nelson, Ph.D. and Tim Houlihan interview researchers, academics, practitioners and accidental behavioral scientists. Our conversations are lively, spontaneous, full of laughs and insights into the science behind why we do what we do. We conclude each podcast with a grooving session, recorded after the interview, where we explore the science and reflect on the key takeaways from the interview and the topics we discussed.

Behavioral Grooves Podcast Kurt Nelson, PhD and Tim Houlihan

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Behavioral Grooves is a discussion of the application of behavioral sciences to work and life. It's the WHY WE DO WHAT WE DO podcast. Kurt Nelson, Ph.D. and Tim Houlihan interview researchers, academics, practitioners and accidental behavioral scientists. Our conversations are lively, spontaneous, full of laughs and insights into the science behind why we do what we do. We conclude each podcast with a grooving session, recorded after the interview, where we explore the science and reflect on the key takeaways from the interview and the topics we discussed.

    Grooving: Protests Sparked by the Death of George Floyd in Minneapolis

    Grooving: Protests Sparked by the Death of George Floyd in Minneapolis

    On May 25, 2020, a white Minneapolis police officer killed George Floyd, an unarmed black man, by holding him down with a knee on his neck for over 8 minutes. This was done while three other officers either helped in holding down Mr. Floyd down or stood by watching. 
    Mr. Floyd’s death is an unimaginable horror as it was not the result of a split-second or hair-trigger decision, but a callous, calculated effort that lasted more than 8 minutes.  
    This killing kicked off a week of protests which grew darker as the nights went on.  As many as 81 buildings in Minneapolis have been burned, with 25 of them completely destroyed, and 270 businesses have been vandalized since Mr. Floyd’s death.
    This hits home for Tim and Kurt. Tim lives only a few miles from the epicenter but has had people racing down his street, as they were deterred from the closed freeways by roadblocks – some of them threatening his neighbors with harm.  Kurt lives only blocks away from where some of the protests occurred and could smell the smoke and tear gas in the air, hear the chants of protesters, and see the police and national guard units patrolling up and down his street in the middle of the night as they stood watch to protect the neighborhood. The bank and post office that were burned down is where Kurt did his banking and sent his mail from. 
    The loss of property in no way compares to the loss of human life – that is, Mr. Floyd’s life – and in no way compares to the hundreds of years of black suppression. These are terrible tragedies on many levels.
    We’ve decided to talk about this on this podcast because it is personal for us – we have gone through a range of emotions and we thought that many of you might have been going through the same.  There have been similar incidents of outrage and protests in the past – Eric Garner and Michael Brown are just two that come to mind – but this one seems different.  Maybe it’s different because we live here and it’s so close…but maybe it’s different because it was the last straw that finally tipped the scales…let’s hope so.
     
    Links
    Tally of Buildings Damaged in Minneapolis: https://www.startribune.com/these-minneapolis-st-paul-buildings-are-damaged-looted-after-george-floyd-protests/569930671/
    Kareem Abdul Jabar – People Pushed to the Edge: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-05-30/dont-understand-the-protests-what-youre-seeing-is-people-pushed-to-the-edge
    “Psychological Research Explains Why People Protest” Forbes, May 20, 2020. By Nicole Fisher: https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicolefisher/2020/05/29/the-psychology-of-protests-reveals-why-americans-are-ready-for-action/#334d1f3bbbb6
    White guy with AR-15 vs. Black guy with AR-15 video: https://www.facebook.com/KeithKuder/videos/866107570115697

    • 29 min
    Covid-19 Crisis: Chris Pfeiffer on Tips for Adjusting Sales Comp Plans

    Covid-19 Crisis: Chris Pfeiffer on Tips for Adjusting Sales Comp Plans

    Chris Pfeiffer is a Senior Business Analyst at Tegra Analytics. Chris specializes in salesforce effectiveness in the life science industry, which includes incentive compensation, targeting and segmentation, sales force sizing and optimization, statistical analysis, and business intelligence. 
    Chris graduated from The Johns Hopkins University, where he received his Master of Science in Government Analytics, and La Salle University, where he received his Bachelor of Science in Business Administration (major in Finance with a minor in Economics). 
    We spoke to Chris about some of the challenges brought on by the coronavirus crisis. We discussed sales quotas and sales compensation in an era where nearly nothing can be forecasted because there is nothing “business as usual” about our world today. He offered some excellent tips on how sales leaders can help manage their way through these uncharted waters. 
    © 2020 Behavioral Grooves
    Links
    Connect with Kurt and Tim: 
    Kurt Nelson, PhD: @WhatMotivates  e-mail: kurt@lanterngroup.com 
    Tim Houlihan: @THoulihan  e-mail: tim@behavioralchemy.com 
    Lantern Group: http://lanterngroup.com/
    BehaviorAlchemy: https://www.behavioralchemy.com/
    Behavioral Grooves: https://behavioralgrooves.com/
    Weekly Grooves: https://weeklygrooves.podbean.com/
    Common Biases & Heuristics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHpBr0VFcaT8wIUpr-9zMIb79dFMgOVFRxIZRybiftI/edit#
    Patreon Site for Behavioral Grooves: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves
     
    General Coronavirus Info: 
    Daily Newsletter Summarizing data from Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security: http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/newsroom/newsletters/e-newsletter-sign-up.html
    CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
    Great videos on the science behind this by Dr. Peter Attia – this is the first in a series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNVhLyAlfA4
    What is herd immunity?: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615375/what-is-herd-immunity-and-can-it-stop-the-coronavirus/
    A list curated by Liam.Delaney@UCD.ie 
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/11GLhX7hLf64Bxkdpv5hvYHqOjS1imlcMQFjJBJ-9oUM/edit
     
    Coronavirus & Behavioral Science: 
    Selected Links: The Behavioral Sice of Coronavirus: https://behavioralscientist.org/selected-links-the-behavioral-science-of-the-coronavirus-covid-19/
    Why no one is reading your coronavirus email: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/13/opinions/coronavirus-emails-effective-messaging-rogers/index.html
    Handwashing can stop a virus, so why don’t we do it?: https://behavioralscientist.org/handwashing-can-stop-a-virus-so-why-dont-we-do-it-coronavirus-covid-19/
    The behavioral science of handwashing: https://think.ing.com/articles/the-behavioural-science-of-hand-washing/ 
    Ideas 42: The Behavioral Side of COVID-19 here: https://ideas42.org/covid19/ 
    Greater Good: https://twitter.com/GreaterGoodSC
     
    How We Can Cope During This Crisis: 
    Tip Sheet from HUMU: https://humu.com/remote-nudges/
    Resources for learning at home: https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/resources-learning-home-during-covid-19-school-closures?utm_source=join1440&utm_medium=email&utm_placement=etcetera
     
    General Behavioral Science Links: 
    Common Biases and Heuristics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHpBr0VFcaT8wIUpr-9zMIb79dFMgOVFRxIZRybiftI/edit#
    Jonathan Haidt – 5 Moral Foundations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_foundations_theory
    Annie Duke’s “How To Decide”: https://www.amazon.com/How-Decide-Simple-Making-Choices/dp/0593084608
    “16 Ways To Promote Hand Washing With Behavioral Science” article by Aline Holzwarth: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alineholzwarth/2020/03/25/handwashing-with-behavioral-science/#261b4b9f768d
    Aline Holzwarth’s Playlist on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0H5fsQRrqslGdBhhx8d4Aw?si=0jra0rU1Qu2vQNtqjbRvZA
    Deontological and Consequential Moralities: https://plat

    • 46 min
    Dan Hill, PhD: On the Facial Coding of Trump, Hendrix, Prince, Gretzky and the Beatles

    Dan Hill, PhD: On the Facial Coding of Trump, Hendrix, Prince, Gretzky and the Beatles

    Dan Hill, PhD is an internationally recognized expert on the role of emotions in politics, business, sports, and popular culture. He pioneered the use of facial coding (the analysis of facial expressions) in market research and has done work for over half of the world's top 100 consumer-oriented companies. He’s even received seven U.S. patents related to facial coding and he is an author on top of that.
    We talked to Dan about one of his recent books called Famous Faces Decoded: A Guidebook for Reading Others. Unless you’ve never been lied to in your life, you know that words don’t tell the whole story: our faces often give away our true emotions. Frankly, we needed a break from our series on the coronavirus and Dan was just the balm we were looking for. 
    Dan shares humous anecdotes and insights into the real emotions of the Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Prince, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, and you may imagine, Donald Trump. And in our grooving session, Kurt and Tim explore the potential evolutionary reasons for our conscious minds’ poor processing of facial expressions on others.
    © 2020 Behavioral Grooves
     
    Links
    Dan Hill, PhD: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dan-hill-emotionswizard/
    Sensory Logic: https://www.sensorylogic.com/
    Faces of the Week: https://emotionswizard.com/
    Seven Emotions in Facial Coding: https://www.humintell.com/2010/06/the-seven-basic-emotions-do-you-know-them/
    Soren Kierkegaard: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%B8ren_Kierkegaard
    Donald Trump on Charlottesville: https://www.npr.org/2017/08/15/543743845/another-reversal-trump-now-says-counterprotesters-also-to-blame-for-charlottesvi
    Wayne Gretzky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Gretzky
    Michael Jordan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Jordan
    Scottie Pippen: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottie_Pippen
    Dennis Rodman: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Rodman
    “The Rational Animal”: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/17290697-the-rational-animal
     
    Kurt Nelson, PhD: @whatmotivates
    Tim Houlihan: @THoulihan
    Patreon Site for Behavioral Grooves: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves
     
    Musical Links
    The Beatles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beatles
    Johnny Cash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Cash
    Jimi Hendrix: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_Hendrix
    Prince: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_(musician)

    • 1 hr
    Covid-19 Crisis: Claire Bidwell Smith on Grief During the Crisis

    Covid-19 Crisis: Claire Bidwell Smith on Grief During the Crisis

    Claire Bidwell Smith is a licensed therapist specializing in grief and the author of three books of nonfiction, most recently ANXIETY: The Missing Stage of Grief. She has written for The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Guardian, and a variety of other publications. 
    She received her Master’s Degree in clinical psychology from Antioch University, and has recently transitioned her therapeutic practice to the East Coast of the United States while working with clients around the globe.
    Our discussion with Claire focused on how a crisis is unique in its ability to generate grief, as well as anger and pain and anxiety. We talk about common problems that surface from not being able to grieve during the crisis in the same ways we would have traditionally. Claire shares some tips on how to manage grief during the pandemic and, interestingly, her list begins with “cut down on your screen time.”
    In our grooving session, Kurt and Tim discuss anticipatory grief and how difficult this experience is with no reasonable end date. 
    We hope you enjoy our conversation with Claire as much as we did. 
    © 2020 Behavioral Grooves
     
    Links
    Connect with Kurt and Tim: 
    Kurt Nelson, PhD: @WhatMotivates  e-mail: kurt@lanterngroup.com 
    Tim Houlihan: @THoulihan  e-mail: tim@behavioralchemy.com 
    Lantern Group: http://lanterngroup.com/
    BehaviorAlchemy: https://www.behavioralchemy.com/
    Behavioral Grooves: https://behavioralgrooves.com/
    Weekly Grooves: https://weeklygrooves.podbean.com/
    Common Biases & Heuristics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHpBr0VFcaT8wIUpr-9zMIb79dFMgOVFRxIZRybiftI/edit#
    Patreon Site for Behavioral Grooves: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves
     
    General Coronavirus Info: 
    Daily Newsletter Summarizing data from Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security: http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/newsroom/newsletters/e-newsletter-sign-up.html
    CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
    Great videos on the science behind this by Dr. Peter Attia – this is the first in a series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNVhLyAlfA4
    What is herd immunity?: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615375/what-is-herd-immunity-and-can-it-stop-the-coronavirus/
    A list curated by Liam.Delaney@UCD.ie 
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/11GLhX7hLf64Bxkdpv5hvYHqOjS1imlcMQFjJBJ-9oUM/edit
     
    Coronavirus & Behavioral Science: 
    Selected Links: The Behavioral Sice of Coronavirus: https://behavioralscientist.org/selected-links-the-behavioral-science-of-the-coronavirus-covid-19/
    Why no one is reading your coronavirus email: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/13/opinions/coronavirus-emails-effective-messaging-rogers/index.html
    Handwashing can stop a virus, so why don’t we do it?: https://behavioralscientist.org/handwashing-can-stop-a-virus-so-why-dont-we-do-it-coronavirus-covid-19/
    The behavioral science of handwashing: https://think.ing.com/articles/the-behavioural-science-of-hand-washing/ 
    Ideas 42: The Behavioral Side of COVID-19 here: https://ideas42.org/covid19/ 
    Greater Good: https://twitter.com/GreaterGoodSC
     
    How We Can Cope During This Crisis: 
    Tip Sheet from HUMU: https://humu.com/remote-nudges/
    Resources for learning at home: https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/resources-learning-home-during-covid-19-school-closures?utm_source=join1440&utm_medium=email&utm_placement=etcetera
     
    General Behavioral Science Links: 
    Common Biases and Heuristics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHpBr0VFcaT8wIUpr-9zMIb79dFMgOVFRxIZRybiftI/edit#
    Jonathan Haidt – 5 Moral Foundations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_foundations_theory
    Annie Duke’s “How To Decide”: https://www.amazon.com/How-Decide-Simple-Making-Choices/dp/0593084608
    “16 Ways To Promote Hand Washing With Behavioral Science” article by Aline Holzwarth: https://www.forbes.com/sites/alineholzwarth/2020/03/25/handwashing-with-behavioral-s

    • 46 min
    Covid-19 Crisis: Kristen Berman on Remote Work, Quaranteams and Marinades

    Covid-19 Crisis: Kristen Berman on Remote Work, Quaranteams and Marinades

    Kristen Berman is the co-founder of Irrational Labs and co-founder and principal at Common Cents Lab,  a non-profit behavioral consulting company, with Dan Ariely. They work focuses on the financial well-being of low-to-middle-income Americans.
    She was also on the founding team for the behavioral economics group at Google and hosts one of the top behavioral change conferences globally, StartupOnomics. She co-authored a series of workbooks (with Dan Ariely) called Hacking Human Nature for Good: A Practical Guide to Changing Behavior.
    Our conversation with Kristen began with some straightforward tips on boosting productivity while working in isolation, including intentional coordination and informal things like virtual lunch meetings. And she pointed out how too many emails and Zoom meetings crowd out time to think, analyze and, well, work. 
    She also suggested a framework for creating “Quaranteams” and how we need to develop new social norms on how non-nuclear families can work and play together. 
    We’re wondering if listeners have ideas on why SKYPE was blown out of the water by Zoom? Let us know!
    We hope you enjoy the conversation with Kristen. 
    © 2020 Behavioral Grooves
     
    Links
    Connect with Kurt and Tim: 
    Kurt Nelson, PhD: @WhatMotivates  e-mail: kurt@lanterngroup.com 
    Tim Houlihan: @THoulihan  e-mail: tim@behavioralchemy.com 
    Lantern Group: http://lanterngroup.com/
    BehaviorAlchemy: https://www.behavioralchemy.com/
    Behavioral Grooves: https://behavioralgrooves.com/
    Weekly Grooves: https://weeklygrooves.podbean.com/
    Common Biases & Heuristics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHpBr0VFcaT8wIUpr-9zMIb79dFMgOVFRxIZRybiftI/edit#
    Patreon Site for Behavioral Grooves: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves
     
    General Coronavirus Info: 
    Daily Newsletter Summarizing data from Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security: http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/newsroom/newsletters/e-newsletter-sign-up.html
    CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
    Great videos on the science behind this by Dr. Peter Attia – this is the first in a series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNVhLyAlfA4
    What is herd immunity?: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615375/what-is-herd-immunity-and-can-it-stop-the-coronavirus/
    A list curated by Liam.Delaney@UCD.ie 
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/11GLhX7hLf64Bxkdpv5hvYHqOjS1imlcMQFjJBJ-9oUM/edit
     
    Coronavirus & Behavioral Science: 
    Selected Links: The Behavioral Sice of Coronavirus: https://behavioralscientist.org/selected-links-the-behavioral-science-of-the-coronavirus-covid-19/
    Why no one is reading your coronavirus email: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/13/opinions/coronavirus-emails-effective-messaging-rogers/index.html
    Handwashing can stop a virus, so why don’t we do it?: https://behavioralscientist.org/handwashing-can-stop-a-virus-so-why-dont-we-do-it-coronavirus-covid-19/
    The behavioral science of handwashing: https://think.ing.com/articles/the-behavioural-science-of-hand-washing/ 
    Ideas 42: The Behavioral Side of COVID-19 here: https://ideas42.org/covid19/ 
    Greater Good: https://twitter.com/GreaterGoodSC
     
    How We Can Cope During This Crisis: 
    Tip Sheet from HUMU: https://humu.com/remote-nudges/
    Resources for learning at home: https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/resources-learning-home-during-covid-19-school-closures?utm_source=join1440&utm_medium=email&utm_placement=etcetera
     
    General Behavioral Science Links: 
    Common Biases and Heuristics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHpBr0VFcaT8wIUpr-9zMIb79dFMgOVFRxIZRybiftI/edit#
    Jonathan Haidt – 5 Moral Foundations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_foundations_theory
    Annie Duke’s “How To Decide”: https://www.amazon.com/How-Decide-Simple-Making-Choices/dp/0593084608
    “16 Ways To Promote Hand Washing With Behavioral Science” article by Aline Holzwarth: https://www.forbes.com/sites/a

    • 44 min
    Covid-19 Crisis: Stephen Curtis on Neuroplasticity and Creating the Ideal

    Covid-19 Crisis: Stephen Curtis on Neuroplasticity and Creating the Ideal

    Stephen Curtis, PhD is a Clinical Psychologist with a doctorate in Neuroscience Experimental Psychology. He specializes in Performance Psychology with professional and college athletes, musicians, and corporate leaders to help them reach their highest levels of performance. 
    Steve is the author of the proprietary Clarity Survey which has become a business research best practice instrument with Fortune 500 companies. Clarity uses common language answers to detect what consumers and employees consider their ideal CX and EX experiences, and in so doing, it offers tremendous insights for business leaders. 
    In this episode, we focused on the ways in which our brain literally changes as we reinforce particular behaviors, as described by Hebb’s Law, and the enormous benefit of neuroplasticity. We also discussed the impact that BHAG’s (big hairy audacious goals) have on the frontal polar cortex of the brain and how it’s those monstrous goals that engage our imaginations, emotions, and as a result, our behaviors. 
    Most importantly, Steve shared with us one of the greatest tips for life and work: practicing how to calm yourself. This was a terrific insight that upended years of rehearsing for musical performances and business presentations with a critical message: spend more time practicing how to be calm in uncertain situations. 
    © 2020 Behavioral Grooves 
    Links
    Connect with Kurt and Tim: 
    Kurt Nelson, PhD: @WhatMotivates  e-mail: kurt@lanterngroup.com 
    Tim Houlihan: @THoulihan  e-mail: tim@behavioralchemy.com 
    Lantern Group: http://lanterngroup.com/
    BehaviorAlchemy: https://www.behavioralchemy.com/
    Behavioral Grooves: https://behavioralgrooves.com/
    Weekly Grooves: https://weeklygrooves.podbean.com/
    Common Biases & Heuristics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHpBr0VFcaT8wIUpr-9zMIb79dFMgOVFRxIZRybiftI/edit#
    Patreon Site for Behavioral Grooves: https://www.patreon.com/behavioralgrooves
     
    General Coronavirus Info: 
    Daily Newsletter Summarizing data from Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security: http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/newsroom/newsletters/e-newsletter-sign-up.html
    CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html
    Great videos on the science behind this by Dr. Peter Attia – this is the first in a series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNVhLyAlfA4
    What is herd immunity?: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615375/what-is-herd-immunity-and-can-it-stop-the-coronavirus/
    A list curated by Liam.Delaney@UCD.ie 
    https://docs.google.com/document/d/11GLhX7hLf64Bxkdpv5hvYHqOjS1imlcMQFjJBJ-9oUM/edit
     
    Coronavirus & Behavioral Science: 
    Selected Links: The Behavioral Sice of Coronavirus: https://behavioralscientist.org/selected-links-the-behavioral-science-of-the-coronavirus-covid-19/
    Why no one is reading your coronavirus email: https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/13/opinions/coronavirus-emails-effective-messaging-rogers/index.html
    Handwashing can stop a virus, so why don’t we do it?: https://behavioralscientist.org/handwashing-can-stop-a-virus-so-why-dont-we-do-it-coronavirus-covid-19/
    The behavioral science of handwashing: https://think.ing.com/articles/the-behavioural-science-of-hand-washing/ 
    Ideas 42: The Behavioral Side of COVID-19 here: https://ideas42.org/covid19/ 
    Greater Good: https://twitter.com/GreaterGoodSC
     
    How We Can Cope During This Crisis: 
    Tip Sheet from HUMU: https://humu.com/remote-nudges/
    Resources for learning at home: https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/resources-learning-home-during-covid-19-school-closures?utm_source=join1440&utm_medium=email&utm_placement=etcetera
     
    General Behavioral Science Links: 
    Common Biases and Heuristics: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XHpBr0VFcaT8wIUpr-9zMIb79dFMgOVFRxIZRybiftI/edit#
    Jonathan Haidt – 5 Moral Foundations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_foundations_theory
    Annie Duke’s “How To Decide”: https://www

    • 58 min

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