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It’s nearly spooky season and we’re waxing nostalgic for The Craft (Andrew Fleming, 1996) with Los Angeles film critic and podcaster extraordinaire Katie Walsh. We get into crushing on Robin Tunney, the 90s, the death of subculture, slow-motion hallway walks, where are their parents—and stay tuned for Katie’s on-air pull from the Rachel True tarot deck.

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The Bright Wall/Dark Room Podcast is co-hosted by Veronica Fitzpatrick and Chad Perman and produced and edited by Eli Sands. Our theme music is composed by Chad.

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This episode is sponsored by Galerie, a new kind of film club. Listeners may sign up for access at https://join.galerie.com/bwdr and use code JOINGALERIE for 1 month free.

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Find all 120+ issues of Bright Wall/Dark Room, including this month’s issue on Nostalgia, at brightwalldarkroom.com. We really, really appreciate your ratings and reviews. We’re on Twitter @BWDR & @TheBWDRPodcast, and always welcome feedback and inquiries at podcast@brightwalldarkroom.com–blessed be.



This episode of The Bright Wall/Dark Room Podcast was recorded during the 2023 WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes. Without the labor of the writers and actors currently on strike, the film discussed in this episode wouldn't exist.

This is The BW/DR Podcast: Frame 25, a series of bite-sized episodes in conversation with, and sponsored by, our friends at Galerie. Each month, we pick a title from Galerie’s curated library and zoom in on a single moment to better see the whole.

This month we bid goodbye to summer with Robert Altman’s hallucinatory 3 Women (1977), a Palm Springs take on Persona.

For info on upcoming live movie discussions hosted by Galerie, and to read Emma Cline’s languid essay on 3 Women, sign up at https://join.galerie.com/bwdr.

The BW/DR Podcast is co-hosted by Veronica Fitzpatrick and Chad Perman and produced and edited by Eli Sands.

(Artwork for this episode by Tom Ralston)

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This series is sponsored by Galerie, a new kind of film club. BW/DR listeners can sign up now for early access at https://join.galerie.com/bwdr.

This is The BW/DR Podcast: Frame 25, a series in conversation with, and sponsored by, our friends at Galerie. Each month, we pick a title from Galerie’s curated library and zoom in on a single moment to better see the whole.

This month, in concert with Mike Mills' curated list, Chad and Veronica look at The Cameraman (1928), reflecting on the impossible beauty and precision of Buster Keaton, bodies in motion, and the pantomime scene at Yankees Stadium that makes Chad smile from ear to ear every single time he sees it.

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Dive deeper:


The Cameraman: Man with a Movie Camera, Imogen Sara Smith
Comedy’s Greatest Era, James Agee (1949, LIFE magazine article on Keaton, Chaplin, Lloyd)
Karina Longworth on Buster Keaton's move to MGM
The Art of the Gag (Every Frame a Painting video essay)

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The BW/DR Podcast is co-hosted by Veronica Fitzpatrick and Chad Perman and produced and edited by Eli Sands.



This series is sponsored by Galerie, a new kind of film club. BW/DR listeners can sign up now for early access at https://join.galerie.com/bwdr.

Your mission, if you choose to accept it: in concert with this month's “Heists” issue, we’re talking across Mission: Impossible – Dead Reckoning Part One (2023), Mission: Impossible – Fallout (2018), and Mission: Impossible (1996) with brilliant Vulture and New York Magazine critic—and platinum-tier BWDR supporter!—Bilge Ebiri. We get into the [redacted] of Ilsa Faust, when plot makes no sense, Tom Cruise playing himself, lyricism in action films, Fallout = sex, what the M:I franchise is saying about digital vs. analog, watching A Few Good Men once a week, and plenty more.
The Bright Wall/Dark Room Podcast is co-hosted by Veronica Fitzpatrick and Chad Perman and produced and edited by Eli Sands. Our theme music is composed by Chad (and remixed for this episode by Eli).
This episode was recorded during the 2023 WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes. Without the labor of the writers and actors currently on strike, the films discussed in this episode wouldn't exist. To learn more, visit the WGA strike hub and read about the SAG-AFTRA strike here.
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This episode is sponsored by Galerie, a new kind of film club. BW/DR listeners can sign up for early access at https://join.galerie.com/bwdr.
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Live event update:
Join us for our first live, interactive discussion on Galerie on Friday, August 25th, at 1pm PST / 4pm EST!
Chad and Veronica will be discussing Daisies, a film from Mike Mills’ curated Galerie film list. We'd love to have you join the conversation!
(Sign up for free early access to Galerie, via this link)
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You can read all 122 issues of Bright Wall/Dark Room, including this month’s impossible missions, at brightwalldarkroom.com. We really, really appreciate ratings and reviews. We’re on Twitter @BWDR and @TheBWDRPodcast, and we welcome feedback and inquiries at podcast@brightwalldarkroom.com.
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This is The BW/DR Podcast: Frame 25, a new series in conversation with, and sponsored by, our friends at Galerie. Every month, we’ll pick a title from Galerie’s curated library and zoom in on a single moment to better see the whole. This month: in concert with Karyn Kusama’s library, we chat about how Todd Haynes’s Safe (1995) transposes the female ennui of Antonioni’s Red Desert to the sherbet interiors of Sherman Oaks, CA.

For info on upcoming live movie discussions (with you, for you!) hosted by Galerie, sign up at https://join.galerie.com/bwdr.

The BW/DR Podcast is co-hosted by Veronica Fitzpatrick and Chad Perman and produced and edited by Eli Sands.

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This episode was recorded during the 2023 WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes. Without the labor of the writers and actors currently on strike, the film discussed in this episode wouldn't exist. To learn more, visit the ⁠WGA strike hub⁠ and read about the SAG-AFTRA strike ⁠here⁠.

We’re proud to feature our June issue’s guest editor, poet and PhD student Spencer Williams, in conversation about a pair of films that hearken to our theme of trans cinema: Canadian Billy Tipton doc No Ordinary Man (Aisling Chin-Yee and Chase Joynt, Canada, 2020, now streaming on Criterion Channel) and the incendiary short American Reflexxx (Alli Coates, 2015, on YouTube). We get into: why this double feature, the perils and profits of visibility, improv as queer praxis, did MoMA’s audience get it, the meta device of audition scenes, always performing, working with and against the talking heads format, glitch time, and more.
The Bright Wall/Dark Room Podcast is co-hosted by Veronica Fitzpatrick and Chad Perman and produced and edited by Eli Sands. Our theme music is composed by Chad. This episode is sponsored by Galerie, a new kind of film club. Listeners may sign up for early access at https://join.galerie.com/bwdr.
This month, we're celebrating the 10th anniversary of BW/DR! You can find all 120 issues of Bright Wall/Dark Room, including this month’s bouquet of trans cinema offerings, at brightwalldarkroom.com.
The only way for our pod to reach new listeners is for you to subscribe, rate, and review: please do that! We’re on Twitter @BWDR and @TheBWDRPodcast, and we welcome feedback and inquiries at podcast@brightwalldarkroom.com.
Happy Pride.