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Everything Recruiting, Recruitment Marketing, Technology, Talent Management, and Workforce Economics wrapped in brash opinions and loads of snark. Industry veterans Chad Sowash & Joel Cheesman share their experience and opinion on a wide variety of topics and current news stories. Hiring companies, employers, and vendors tune in for insights from practitioners, vendors, startups, and these two knuckleheads.

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Snagged and Bagged: JobGet's Big Move

This week on The Chad and Cheese Podcast: It's a world of layoffs, aliens, and bad burgers as Chad brags about sunny Portugal while Joel freezes in the Midwest. From AI pimps hustling Instagram to job board dinosaurs facing extinction, the duo dives into an Acquisition Palooza that proves even startups can have a midlife crisis. Plus, they tackle the age-old question: How much Shake Shack can you eat at 30,000 feet? Spoiler: Not enough. Strap in for hot takes, cool beers, and the slow but inevitable collapse of humanity—now with a side of influencer drama! Takeaways The hosts share their contrasting experiences of weather and lifestyle. Current events are overwhelming, with a mix of serious and absurd news. Boxing has transformed into a scripted entertainment spectacle. The hosts reminisce about the authenticity of past boxing matches. Industry shout outs highlight the interconnectedness of recruitment platforms. Fantasy football updates reveal competitive dynamics among the hosts. Layoffs in the recruitment industry signal ongoing challenges. LinkUp's acquisition showcases the importance of real-time job data. Adzuna's acquisition aims to enhance social media recruitment capabilities. The conversation reflects on the future of recruitment advertising amidst automation. Adzuna should consider acquiring Flockety to enhance its influencer marketing capabilities. The job board industry is evolving, with a shift towards programmatic advertising and social media engagement. Companies must adapt to the changing landscape of job postings to remain competitive. JobGet's acquisition of Snagajob could revitalize the hourly worker market. Recruiter.com's acquisition of BountyJobs raises questions about the future of recruitment services. AI-driven digital employees are becoming essential in addressing the cybersecurity talent shortage. The proliferation of AI-generated influencers poses significant challenges for genuine content creators. Legislative action is needed to combat the rise of deep fake technology on social media. The recruitment industry is experiencing a wave of consolidation and strategic acquisitions. The conversation highlights the importance of adapting to technological advancements in recruitment and marketing. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Current Events 03:00 - Reflections on Boxing and Entertainment 06:03 - Shout Outs and Industry News 10:03 -Fantasy Football Update 12:01 -Layoffs and Industry Changes 15:58 -Acquisition Palooza: LinkUp and Adzuna 28:32 -The Rise of Influencer-Centric Platforms 29:52 -The Evolution of Job Boards and Programmatic Advertising 33:16 -Adzuna's Strategic Shift and Industry Challenges 34:01 -JobGet Acquires Snagajob: A New Era for Hourly Workers 42:09 -Recruiter.com Acquires BountyJobs: A Strategic Move? 47:04 - AI in Cybersecurity: The Future of Digital Employees 52:00 -The Impact of AI-Generated Influencers on Social Media

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Shredded: JobGet, Adzuna, Recruiter.com, LinkUp, BountyJobs, Minu, Snagajob, TalentNeuron, Twine & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

8 min
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Why AI Can't Replace Recruiters (Yet)

From the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Dean Da Costa joins Chad & Cheese to share fresh recruitment advice. He urges recruiters to challenge norms, verify AI-generated data, and focus on the human touch. Da Costa emphasizes personal branding, as candidates often research recruiters, and suggests exploring platforms beyond LinkedIn to reach diverse talent. He highlights the irreplaceable value of genuine interactions over automation and advocates for a supportive, knowledge-sharing recruiter community.

14 min
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400,000 Referrals with Patti Tabris

Live from the SmartRecruiters booth at the HR Tech conference in Las Vegas, the boys hosted a session with Patti Tabris, Senior Director of Talent Acquisition at ResultsCX, who shared insights into leveraging employee referrals for recruitment. With 20,000 employees, ResultsCX has seen tremendous success by generating over 400,000 referrals in two years, highlighting referrals as a potent yet often underutilized recruitment strategy. Patti emphasized that continuous improvement and innovation in their referral program, named ReferCX, not only reduces hiring costs but also enhances candidate quality and company culture. The program's effectiveness is boosted by integrating marketing strategies at launch and robust backend technology to handle referral tracking and bonus calculations. The company has implemented a tiered incentive system linked to employee retention and uses a leaderboard to boost engagement without extra costs. The referral initiative extends beyond immediate hires, creating a pool of future candidates, and is integrated into the company's onboarding process through a mobile app. This program, accounting for 25-30% of hires, focuses on internal culture but plans to explore external referrals and enhance gamification. The success of ReferCX is measured through clear goals, tracking, and employee feedback, demonstrating its significant impact on both employee satisfaction and retention.

21 min
15 NOV.

ZipRecruiter's Pathetic Performance

This week, the boys are joined by Lieven from House of HR to discuss various topics including layoffs in the industry, the impact of AI on startups, social media regulations for youth, and recent innovations in recruitment. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by companies in the current economic climate, as well as insights into quarterly earnings reports from major players in the recruitment space. The conversation delves into the dynamics of job platforms, particularly focusing on the power struggles between major players like Indeed and ZipRecruiter. Plenty of talking about the innovations brought by AI tools in recruitment, the challenges faced by ZipRecruiter, and the potential for mergers and acquisitions in the industry. The discussion also touches on the impact of AI on the workforce, investment trends in HR tech, and a comparison of two startups, Toothio and SocialCrowd, showcasing the evolving landscape of recruitment and staffing. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction 03:02 - The Impact of AI on Startups 06:00 - Social Media Regulations and Youth 09:03 - Innovations in Recruitment 14:51 - Layoffs and Economic Challenges 17:48 - Quarterly Earnings Reports and Market Trends 27:35 - The Power Dynamics of Job Platforms 29:08 - Innovations in Recruitment: The Rise of AI Tools 30:52 - The Struggles of ZipRecruiter 34:42 - The Future of Recruitment: Mergers and Acquisitions 36:44 - AI in the Workforce: Opportunities and Challenges 48:30 - Investment Trends in HR Tech 53:08 - Startups to Watch: Toothio vs. Social Crowd

58 min
14 NOV.

Shredded: Oyster, ZipRecruiter, Indeed, Upwork, Dice, 11x, SocialCrowd, MONA AI, Serve Robotics, Vebu & More

The Shred is a weekly roundup of who’s raised funds, who’s getting acquired and who’s on the move in the world of recruitment. The Shred is brought to you today by Jobcase.

8 min
13 NOV.

Inclusive Recruitment in 2025 and Beyond

Broadcasting from the ever-glamorous Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese sit down with the powerhouse of DEI herself, Novonda Lilly, Director of DEI Campus and Community Engagement at Vanderbilt Health. Novonda schools the guys on how to navigate the choppy waters of diversity in hiring, especially with 2025 looming large. Spoiler alert: it’s not as simple as slapping a rainbow on your LinkedIn banner. Novonda doesn’t hold back, calling out the so-called “shortage of diverse candidates” and challenging recruiters to step up their game. She serves up practical advice on using social media to reach underrepresented talent, though she’s quick to throw a little shade at AI and its dicey role in hiring – because, let's be real, nobody wants a “smart” robot unintentionally screening out great people. And, if you're hoping for a warm fuzzy moment, sorry – Novonda’s here to make sure we all stay sharp and resilient. She dishes on the reality of adapting DEI strategies to market trends, and she’s already lined up LinkedIn requests from everyone who wants in on her best practices. Prepare for an episode packed with humor, hard truths, and a few digs at outdated recruiting “innovations.” Novonda reminds us that if you’re not actively building an inclusive culture, you’re just setting yourself up for 2025 – and not in a good way.

12 min
11 NOV.

Firing Squad: MyStandard's Josh Sklüt

In this episode of Firing Squad, Josh Sklüt, co-founder and Chief People Officer of My Standard, discusses the innovative approach of his company as a Web3 alternative to traditional job platforms like LinkedIn. He explains how My Standard empowers users to control and monetize their professional data while addressing the shortcomings of existing recruitment methods. The conversation delves into the app's features, the challenges of candidate matching, and the future of job searching in a decentralized world. The discussion covers client success stories, the competitive landscape, and the go-to-market strategy focusing on AI jobs. Sklut also addresses challenges and critiques from the hosts regarding the complexities of blockchain and the need for effective education in the HR space. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction to My Standard and Josh Sklut 05:09 - Pitching My Standard: A New Approach to Job Searching 09:54 - The Problem with Traditional Job Platforms 15:11 - Data Verification and Candidate Matching 19:51 - Monetization and Business Model of My Standard 24:45 - Challenges and Future of My Standard 17:52 - Understanding the Use Cases and Client Success Stories 19:51 - Differentiating from Competitors and Market Positioning 22:03 - Go-to-Market Strategy and Initial Focus on AI Jobs 23:57 - Team Composition and Expertise Behind MyStandard 26:04 - Exit Strategies and Future Growth Opportunities 28:04 - Facing the Firing Squad: Challenges and Critiques

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Best Podcast in the HR space

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Matt Lavery

Thank you to Chad and Joel for inviting me onto their show. They are professionals in their field, which made it easy for me as a guest. I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation and am excited about the future of the TA space.
Best “keeping it real and raw” podcast on HR!

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Brooke Strauss

If you’re in workplace management, this podcast is a no brainer and a must listen! Chad, Joel and their guests provide practical and valuable advice in a fun and real way and cover so many topics from Linkedin to employee retention to AI. They are consistently thought provoking and insightful. Don’t think about it - subscribe now.
Bringing the heat!

29/07/2023

JPs Ghost

Joel and Chad are great. You will learn and laugh.
New working title: Socialism and Cheese

06/10/2023

PSU fan in South Carolina

I give this podcast three out of five stars. That’s five stars for Joel. One star for Chad. And I only give Chad one star because every once in a while - and I gotta say these moments are very few and super far in between - he will do a market analysis that’s really good and insightful. However, 99% of the time Mr Sowash is spewing the mad ravings of a person who’s never actually run a business. He’s the smartest person in the industry - just ask him. In fact, this podcast made me realize the most urgently needed artificial intelligence app is one that causes this podcast to go silent anytime Chad opens his mouth. I would prefer that sweet sound of dead air to his unrelenting socialist insanity. That said, Joe Cheeseman knows what he’s talking about. He is a voice of reason and measured analysis of the complex TA industry. He understands branding and strategy and how to actually make money in TA tech. He walks the tightrope of appeasing his lunatic co-host while bringing actual value to the commentary. In other words, the man is a magician. Overall, about 50% of this podcast is worth a listen.

Everything Recruiting, Recruitment Marketing, Technology, Talent Management, and Workforce Economics wrapped in brash opinions and loads of snark. Industry veterans Chad Sowash & Joel Cheesman share their experience and opinion on a wide variety of topics and current news stories. Hiring companies, employers, and vendors tune in for insights from practitioners, vendors, startups, and these two knuckleheads.