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Twice-weekly discussion about China's engagement across Africa and the Global South hosted by journalist Eric Olander and Asia-Africa scholar Cobus van Staden in Johannesburg.

The China in Africa Podcast The China-Global South Project

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Twice-weekly discussion about China's engagement across Africa and the Global South hosted by journalist Eric Olander and Asia-Africa scholar Cobus van Staden in Johannesburg.

    Who Gets to Tell the Africa-China Story?

    Who Gets to Tell the Africa-China Story?

    So much of the framing of Chinese engagement in Africa is done through the prism of Western media, academia, government, and civil society. Stories about debt traps, malign influence, and exploitation are all firmly embedded in the larger discourse about Africa's relations with China.
    Conversely, the relationship is also framed in equally binary terms by Chinese media and government narratives.
    But there's growing demand from African stakeholders to tell a radically different story about this relationship, one that is far more nuanced and puts African interests at the center.
    A new collection of papers published by the Africa Policy Research Institute explores the emergence of non-Western-centric narratives. Eric & Cobus spoke with Lina Benabdalla from Wake Forest Univeristy, Yu-Shan Wu from the University of Pretoria, Yunnan Chen from ODI, and Folashadé Soulé from Oxford University, four of the world's leading scholars in this field who contributed to this collection for their perspectives about what a new Africa-China story looks like.
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    • 58 min
    The Impact of Chinese Overcapacity on Developing Countries

    The Impact of Chinese Overcapacity on Developing Countries

    South Africa this week joined a growing list of developing countries around the world to introduce tariffs on certain Chinese imports in a bid to protect local producers. Indonesia, Mexico, Chile, and Brazil, among others, also introduced similar duties on Chinese steel and other products.
    While low-cost Chinese goods are a boon for Global South consumers, they're extremely problematic for manufacturers in these countries because it's almost impossible to match the "China Price."
    Chinese factories can produce goods at a scale and cost that remains unrivaled, and now, according to a new report by the consultancy Rhodium Group, they're flooding markets in Africa and other developing regions.
    Camille Boullenois, a director of Rhodium Group's China projects team, and Austin Jordan, a senior analyst at Rhodium Group, join Eric & Cobus to discuss their new report and why this trend is potentially debilitating for many of the world's least developed countries.
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    X: @ChinaGSProject | @christiangeraud | @stadenesque
    Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth
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    Arabic: عربي: www.alsin-alsharqalawsat.com | @SinSharqAwsat
    JOIN US ON PATREON!
    Become a CAP Patreon member and get all sorts of cool stuff, including our Week in Review report, an invitation to join monthly Zoom calls with Eric & Cobus, and even an awesome new CAP Podcast mug! www.patreon.com/chinaglobalsouth

    • 47 min
    WEEK IN REVIEW: Chinese Debt and the Anti-Government Revolt in Kenya

    WEEK IN REVIEW: Chinese Debt and the Anti-Government Revolt in Kenya

    Protestors in Kenya this week expressed fury against the government and the IMF but interestingly made no mention of China during an unprecedented uprising in Nairobi. It's notable because the Kenyan Treasury spends more money to service its Chinese loans than any other single creditor.
    For years, across two administrations, the Kenyan government has pleaded with China to reschedule nearly $6 billion of outstanding loans, all to no avail. And the cost of servicing that dollar-denominated debt has skyrocketed due to the depreciation of the shilling.
    This week, Eric, Cobus & Geraud discuss the role that Chinese debt plays in Kenya's current economic distress and provide updates on the fate of a Chinese oil pipeline caught in the middle of a simmering conflict in West Africa.
    JOIN THE DISCUSSION:
    X: @ChinaGSProject | @christiangeraud | @stadenesque
    Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth
    FOLLOW CAP IN FRENCH AND ARABIC:
    Français: www.projetafriquechine.com | @AfrikChine
    Arabic: عربي: www.alsin-alsharqalawsat.com | @SinSharqAwsat
    JOIN US ON PATREON!
    Become a CAP Patreon member and get all sorts of cool stuff, including our Week in Review report, an invitation to join monthly Zoom calls with Eric & Cobus, and even an awesome new CAP Podcast mug! www.patreon.com/chinaglobalsouth

    • 53 min
    [GLOBAL SOUTH] The Crisis in the South China Sea Enters a Dangerous New Phase

    [GLOBAL SOUTH] The Crisis in the South China Sea Enters a Dangerous New Phase

    The violent confrontation between China and the Philippines on June 17th near the Second Thomas Shoal marked a sharp escalation in tensions between the two countries over their rival territorial claims in the South China Sea.
    After the melee that severely injured one Filipino sailor, the two countries engaged in a second battle, this time in the media, to shape the narrative of what happened and where this burgeoning crisis goes from here.
    Alex Vuving, a professor at the Pentagon-backed think tank Asia-Pacific Security Studies Center in Honolulu, joins Eric to discuss why the events of June 17th have prompted Ferdinand Marcos, Jr. to recalibrate his strategy.
    JOIN THE DISCUSSION:
    X: @ChinaGSProject | @eric_olander 
    Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth
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    JOIN US ON PATREON!
    Become a CGSP Patreon member and get all sorts of cool stuff, including our Week in Review report, an invitation to join monthly Zoom calls with Eric & Cobus, and even an awesome new CGSP Podcast mug! www.patreon.com/chinaglobalsouth

    • 40 min
    How China's Changing Economy is Impacting Africa?

    How China's Changing Economy is Impacting Africa?

    Back in the early 2000s, when Chinese engagement in Africa started to ramp up, China was enjoying double-digit growth and devoured vast quantities of African oil, minerals, and timber to feed its surging manufacturing sector.
    Fast-forward to the present, and China no longer relies on African resources as it once did. The Chinese economy has matured, and those heady growth days are long past. And now, with the BRI in place, China doesn't rely on Africa for resources anywhere near as much as it did 20 years ago.
    A new paper published by two of the world's leading scholars on China-Africa ties, Zainab Usman from the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and Professor Tang Xiaoyang from Tsinghua University in Beijing, details five key economic trends re-shaping the relationship between these two regions.
    Zainab joins CGSP Africa Editor Géraud Neema to discuss how this evolving economic relationship will impact African countries, in particular.
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    X: @ChinaGSProject | @christiangeraud | @mszeeusman
    Facebook: www.facebook.com/ChinaAfricaProject
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    Arabic: عربي: www.alsin-alsharqalawsat.com | @SinSharqAwsat
    JOIN US ON PATREON!
    Become a CAP Patreon member and get all sorts of cool stuff, including our Week in Review report, an invitation to join monthly Zoom calls with Eric & Cobus, and even an awesome new CAP Podcast mug! www.patreon.com/chinaglobalsouth

    • 1 hr 5 min
    It's Time to Take the BRICS More Seriously

    It's Time to Take the BRICS More Seriously

    The BRICS group has existed since 2009 and has done little to distinguish itself in 15 years. They created a mid-sized development bank, but other than that, the bloc's accomplishments have been rather modest.
    That's now starting to change as the BRICS doubled in size to ten members, with around thirty other countries now on the waiting list.
    At the latest BRICS Foreign Ministers gathering in western Russia last week, new initiatives harmonizing AI standards, currency transfers, and developing new business parks were among the issues on the agenda. While these may seem trivial in this era of war and Great Power rivalry, getting lots of small things done is actually a big deal.
    Gustavo de Carvalho, a senior researcher at the South African Institute of International Affairs, is among the world's foremost scholars on the BRICS and joins Eric & Cobus from Johannesburg to discuss why it's time to start paying closer attention to this group.
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    X: @ChinaGSProject | @stadenesque | @eric_olander | @decarvalho
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    YouTube: www.youtube.com/@ChinaGlobalSouth
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    JOIN US ON PATREON!
    Become a CAP Patreon member and get all sorts of cool stuff, including our Week in Review report, an invitation to join monthly Zoom calls with Eric & Cobus, and even an awesome new CAP Podcast mug! www.patreon.com/chinaglobalsouth
     

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Customer Reviews

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192 Ratings

192 Ratings

T Drinker ,

Appreciate environmental updates

Thank you for your insights and enthusiastic reporting. I appreciate the environmental reporting you have completed. Climate change and biodiversity loss cannot be separated from political discourse. And welcome back Cobus!

lrhhrl ,

Cobus the lefty

Is anything fair in Cobus’ mind? Risk premiums in Africa are unfair? Geeze. I guess a socialist can’t ever fairly analyze a financial transaction but cmon. Maybe Kenya deserves debt relief but not because the situation they got themselves into is unfair.

Traveler at large ,

One of the best podcasts on this topic

If not the very best. And I say that as someone who has worked in China and holds a degree in East Asian regional studies.

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