Welcome to The Fall Forward Podcast! I'm Emilia Gardner, and this is my show. I've been in the "make money online" niche since about 2018, and I have several years of a professional career behind that. I started this podcast because I love, love, love talking about side hustling transitioning away from traditional careers, especially when I have the chance to talk about it with really sharp, hard-working, motivated people. As for me, I'm primarily focused on building and growing content websites monetized with display ads and affiliate links, though I am also slowly growing income streams online from KDP, teaching online, and YouTube. That being said, I still want to talk to people about their ideas, their goals, their dreams, and the struggles, in the online world or anywhere else. There's a lot to be learned from other people's journeys, even if their focus is different than mine (or yours).
When Your First Big Site Gets Hit With An Update [with blogger Jasper Pieterse] - FF047
In two years, Jasper Pieterse built one of his first sites from scratch up to 240,000 page views a month, earning from both affiliate programs and display ads. He was barely 21 years old, and was making more money that he'd ever earned before.
He hired a team, and made plans to start some new sites.
And then along came google.
We talk a bit about Jasper's background, getting started in websites, what he did to make his big site as successful as it was, and what he plans to do to try and recover from the 2020 Christmas update.
You can follow along with Jasper's journey on his youtube channel.
From Law Enforcement to Full Time Online [In the Trenches with Below Avg Blogger] - FF046
I had a great chat with Mike from Below Average Blogger in the past few weeks. Mike has recently come into the YouTube scene with his Below Average Blogger youtube channel, but he isn't what I would call a "newbie." Mike has a few websites that he is currently growing (and learning on), but he is also pulling in other side hustle dollars with his writing and voice over skills.
What I like about Mike (and this interview) is that it is clear to me that Mike is "all-in" when it comes to making money online. There is no doubt in his mind that he will grow his earnings, making it a question of 'when' rather than 'if.'
Quitting His Career to Build a Skillshare Alternative [with Emporia Founder Michael Hess] - FF045
Michael Hess cold emailed me a few weeks ago to ask me about my experiences teaching on Skillshare. I've been pretty up front about my struggles and progress on the platform (consistency, violating ever-changing rules), and he asked to talk to me to gather information for his own product, Emporia.
I was happy to chat with him, and the conversation went so well that I asked him to come on the show to talk about the project. We talked a lot about his product and project (which is still in the development phase), and also about what it is like to go through this process.
if you want to find out more about Emporia, here's the link.
IN THE TRENCHES with One Hour Professor Ron Stefanski - FF044
I recently had a really enjoyable chat with One Hour Professor Ron Stefanski. He's a content publisher (niche websites and YouTube). We talked a lot about the big site he had listed with Flippa to try and sell at the end of the year, the growth of his YouTube channel in 2020, whether he thought his college education was a good investment, and so much more.
If you want to find out more about Ron or follow him:
One Hour Professor website
One Hour Professor YouTube channel
IN THE TRENCHES with Beau of Waves and Websites [Fellow Blogger and Youtuber] - FF043
Aloha! It is so enjoyable to talk shop with other very motivated, hard working creators! Especially when they also have a passion for the outdoors as I do. Beau has been in the business of working on websites for years, and has recently started to develop a portfolio of his own. We talk a little bit about his background, and dive into his recent experience buying a site through Motion Invest.
If you want to follow Beau, here's his Youtube Channel Waves & Websites.
"It Took Me 10 Years" [with Blogger and YouTuber Seng Nickerson) - FF042
I have no idea how she does it. Seng Nickerson has a job, a family, takes time for herself and her health, and still managed to produce content for her websites and YouTube channels consistently. A serial entrepreneur, Seng got into websites years ago, well before most of us even considered it. But it didn't click right away, and it wasn't until the last few years when she managed to dial it in.
Here are the links mentioned in the show:
Seng Nickerson's YouTube Channel
Cooking with Lane