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Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.

General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.

But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block.

FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers.

Mike Abrams is an Afghanistan veteran, the founder of FourBlock, and author of two military transition books. He’ll be representing the military transition perspective.

Lindsey Pollak is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey will be representing the civilian perspective of this issue.

Podcast episodes are produced and edited by the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration.

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Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.

General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.

But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block.

FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers.

Mike Abrams is an Afghanistan veteran, the founder of FourBlock, and author of two military transition books. He’ll be representing the military transition perspective.

Lindsey Pollak is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey will be representing the civilian perspective of this issue.

Podcast episodes are produced and edited by the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration.

    Country Star & US Army Veteran Craig Morgan | #MentalHealthAction Day

    Country Star & US Army Veteran Craig Morgan | #MentalHealthAction Day

    In recognition of Mental Health Action Day and Mental Health Awareness Month, this week we are sharing a special podcast episode from our friends at Home Base from their podcast Home Base Nation. This is the first of two episodes that Home Base shared in honor Mental Health Action Day, which this year fell on Thursday, May 19th. 
    In this episode, host Dr. Ron Hirschberg talks with U.S. Army Veteran and country music artist Craig Morgan. Craig spent nearly 11 years with the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions, serving in both Panama and Desert Storm. As a country music artist for more than 20 years, Craig has had 25 songs on the Billboard Charts, including his songs - "Almost Home", "This Ole Boy", "Wake Up Loving You", and the four-week No. 1 hit "That’s What I Love About Sunday". Ron and Craig talk about service, the healing power of music, the loss of Craig's son Jerry in 2016 that led to the powerful and beautiful song, "The Father, My Son, and the Holy Ghost", and about the CBS/Paramount hit show "Beyond The Edge," set in the jungles of Panama that Craig co-stars in along with eight others.
    The latest episodes and additional information can be found at https://homebase.org/homebasenation/. 

    • 46 min
    Empowering Women Veterans: Insights from a 24-Year Navy Veteran

    Empowering Women Veterans: Insights from a 24-Year Navy Veteran

    This week, FourBlock alumna and our new West Coast Regional Director Marina Rabinek joins FourBlock Founder Mike Abrams for a personal conversation about her military experience, her transition after 24 years in the U.S. Navy, how she came to start the Military Women’s Collective, and her passion for mentoring female veterans and being of service to others.
    After completing FourBlock’s Veteran Career Readiness Program as a participant, Marina came back to serve as a Career Readiness Instructor for the Virtual West cohort of our program before joining the FourBlock team full-time as West Coast Regional Director earlier this year. In this episode, Marina shares insights from her own transition experience along with advice for fellow veterans preparing to transition.
    Marina is a teal-haired bilingual Super Connector, master networker, and 24-year U.S. Navy veteran. As the Founder of Military Women’s Collective, you can find her working with women-focused nonprofits – mentoring veterans and service members transitioning from the military – on LinkedIn and Veterati.
    When she isn’t taking California road trips, playing board games or video games, or hanging out with her husband, daughter, and three cats, you can find her collaborating with local and national nonprofits and advocating for women veterans by empowering them to feel less invisible, giving them a voice and engaging in dialogue about resources.
     
    ABOUT US
    Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.
    General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.
    But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 
    FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 
    Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, founder of FourBlock, and author of two military transition books. He represents the military transition perspective.
    Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey represents the civilian perspective of this issue. 
    Veterans, explore new industries and make the right connections. Find a career that fits your calling. Join us at fourblock.org/
    Sponsor our program or host a class to equip more of our veterans at fourblock.org/donate.

    Follow FourBlock on Social Media 
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    Podcast episodes are produced and edited by the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration.
     

    • 32 min
    On the Other Side: Leadership After Transition

    On the Other Side: Leadership After Transition

    This week, we're sharing an interview that FourBlock Founder Mike Abrams recorded previously with FourBlock Career Readiness Instructor Jeffrey Lodick for an episode of his podcast, “On the Other Side: Leadership After Transition," a podcast designed to bring leaders from all branches of service that have already made the transition to give some insight to transitioning service members and veterans who have already made the transition who may be struggling or seeking support. 
    In the interview, Mike sits down with Jeffrey to discuss his transition and how the vision of FourBlock came to reality.
    A retired Master Sergeant in the U.S. Army, Jeffrey is now a professional speaker who does leadership development with student athletes and continures to serve as an advocate for service members in transition.
    Jeffrey retired from the United States Army after 20 years. He served as a Squadron Sergeant Major, Operations Sergeant Major, First Sergeant, Platoon Sergeant, and Drill Sergeant. He was a Master Rated Jumpmaster, a Pathfinder and a graduate of the Battle Staff Noncommissioned Officer Course.
    He has continued his service by assisting transitioning veterans as the podcast host of “On the Other Side: Leadership After Transition,” where he seeks advice from transitioned service members as tools for current transitioning service members to use. He is an inspirational speaker, a member of the National Speakers Association and owner of Change Your Forecast, LLC.
     
    ABOUT US
    Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.
    General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.
    But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 
    FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 
    Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, founder of FourBlock, and author of two military transition books. He represents the military transition perspective.
    Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey represents the civilian perspective of this issue. 
    Veterans, explore new industries and make the right connections. Find a career that fits your calling. Join us at fourblock.org/
    Sponsor our program or host a class to equip more of our veterans at fourblock.org/donate.

    Follow FourBlock on Social Media 
    LinkedIn
    Facebook
    Instagram
    Twitter
    Podcast episodes are produced and edited by the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration.
     

    • 57 min
    Don’t Retire, Rewire: Insights from America’s “Rewiring” Expert

    Don’t Retire, Rewire: Insights from America’s “Rewiring” Expert

    Why do you or did you work beyond the money? Do you have enough money to retire to do what fulfills you? How many of us really know what really fulfills us?
    This week, motivational speaker, social researcher, and co-author of the nationally acclaimed book, Don’t Retire, REWIRE! Third Edition Jeri Sedlar shares her expert insights on retirement life planning and how we figure out what will truly fulfill us after retiring or making a life or career transition.
    In conversation with FourBlock Founder Mike Abrams, Jeri discusses her background and career path, detailing how she developed an interest in aging from a young age and how it ultimately helped shape her career. Mike and Jeri also discuss current trends, and Jeri shares invaluable advice throughout for anyone preparing to retire or looking to find their next act.
    Jeri is a master of retirement life planning and has earned the title of America’s “rewiring” expert. She has interviewed hundreds of professionals, executives, entrepreneurs, partners and pre-retirees in all industries about their hopes, dreams and fears about the future. She has discovered both the pleasures and pain and possibilities and pitfalls associated with retirement.
    Since the introduction of Don’t Retire, REWIRE! in 2002, Jeri has been traveling the globe challenging individuals to get out of their own way and break through society’s as well as their own individual “silver ceilings” to find the fun and fulfillment they deserve and desire at this life stage.
    Jeri’s career has predominantly been in the personal development and transition arena, fostering change as Editor at Large of WORKING WOMAN and Senior Advisor at The Conference Board on the Mature Workforce.
    As a delegate to the White House Conference on Aging and a member of the New York State AARP Executive Council she continues to advance the concept of positive aging through engagement.
    Her rewiring message has resonated across the globe from workshops in Dubai to keynotes in Dallas to interviews with traditional media both on air and online. She writes a blog and as she says…”people are my passion and I want them to get their futures right!”
     
    ABOUT US
    Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.
    General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.
    But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 
    FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 
    Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, founder of FourBlock, and author of two military transition books. He represents the military transition perspective.
    Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey represents the civilian perspective of this issue. 
    Veterans, explore new industries and make the right connections. Find a career that fits your calling. Join us at fourblock.org/
    Sponsor our program or host a class to equip more of our veterans at fourblock.org/donate.

    Follow FourBlock on Social Media 
    LinkedIn
    Facebook
    Instagram
    Twitter
    Podcast episodes are produced and edited by the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration.
     

    • 41 min
    Bridging the Divide for Military Spouses

    Bridging the Divide for Military Spouses

    This week, we welcome Susan Rietano Davey and Kelley Kelley Biskupiak, co-founders of Prepare 2 Launch U (PLTU), a learning company that provides instruction, inspiration, and community primarily to women and caregivers navigating work-life transitions along the continuum of life.
    In 2020, FourBlock joined forces with PTLU to create a comprehensive, instructional career transition program for military spouses looking to return to work or pivot into new careers.
    In this episode, Kelley and Susan are joined by Lisa Stern, Ed.D., FourBlock’s Director of Program Impact and Assessment and our podcast co-hosts: Lindsey Pollak, career and workplace expert, New York Times bestselling author, and FourBlock Board member; and Mike Abrams, FourBlock founder and Afghanistan veteran.
    Over the course of the episode, Susan and Kelley discuss their professional backgrounds and how PTLU started, and the group discusses how the joint FourBlock-PTLU Military Spouse Career Readiness Program came to be, what they have learned together from working with military spouses, what the future of the program holds, and what it means to be ‘ready’ to apply to the program.
    The FourBlock-PTLU Military Spouse Career Readiness Program features live video coaching, flexible online learning modules, and all the instruction, tools, and inspiration a military spouse will need to navigate her or his way to a meaningful career. Military spouses who complete the program also gain access to an expanded community of FourBlock alumni, employers, and instructors for additional networking and mentorship. The program is offered at no cost.
    As career women and moms, too, PTLU co-founders Kelley and Susan have been helping women navigate work-life transitions for a combined 30 years.
    Susan and Kelley met while speaking at a women’s conference in 2016. At the time, they were both independently consulting with companies and coaching a range of women (from seasoned professionals to young women navigating new motherhood) through life and career transition. Immediately, they felt a connection and knew that they could better help more women if they teamed up. So, the two joined forces first to share clients, then to run workshops, and, ultimately, to create the learning company Prepare to Launch U that provides instruction, inspiration, and community to women navigating work-life transitions along the continuum of life. Their original, signature online career re-entry course boasts students in 26 states and counting.
    In just a few years, Prepare to Launch U has introduced multiple online and live instructional offerings including a first-of-its-kind online maternity leave planning course, a proprietary family leave planning course on the LinkedIn Learning platform, and widely popular live corporate workshops on Negotiating and Work-Life Synergy, to list just a few. Susan and Kelley regularly collaborate with universities and Fortune 500 companies, and they are sought-after speakers and moderators for conferences across the country.
     
    ABOUT US
    Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.
    General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.
    But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 
    FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 
    Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, founder of FourBlock, and author of two military transition books. He represents the military transition perspective.
    Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey represents the civilian perspec

    • 40 min
    How an Infantry Officer Got Into a Career in Tech

    How an Infantry Officer Got Into a Career in Tech

    This week we welcome West Point graduate and U.S. Army veteran George Chewning, who served five years as a U.S. Army Infantry Officer including a deployment to Afghanistan.
    In conversation with FourBlock Founder Mike Abrams, George shares details of his time in the Army and his service in Afghanistan; his military transition and what made him realize he needed support with the transition; and his post-military career as a non-technical veteran who transitioned into a civilian career in technology. He shares insights from his transition journey and what he’s learned from making multiple transitions throughout his career. George also discusses how he found his way back to a career serving his community and shares his advice for fellow veterans in transition now.
    After his transition out of the military, George earned his MBA from the George Washington University. He served as a Legislative Director for the Global War on Terror Memorial Foundation and then transitioned to a Program Manager role at Facebook before being selected as a Presidential Innovation Fellow at the Department of Veteran Affairs. He just recently began a new role as Deputy Director for the Beeck Center for Social Impact + Innovation.
    George is an alumnus of FourBlock’s Veteran Career Readiness Program and also serves as a volunteer member on our National Leadership Council.
     
    ABOUT US
    Welcome to the FourBlock Podcast, a show that examines veteran career transition and the military-civilian divide in the workplace.
    General Charles Krulak coined the term "Three Block War" to describe the nature of 21st-century military service defined by peace-keeping, humanitarian aid, and full combat.
    But what happens next? Veterans are often unprepared to return home and begin new careers. We call this the Fourth Block. 
    FourBlock is a national non-profit that has supported thousands of transitioning service members across the nation in beginning new and meaningful careers. 
    Mike Abrams (@fourblock) is an Afghanistan veteran, founder of FourBlock, and author of two military transition books. He represents the military transition perspective.
    Lindsey Pollak (@lindsaypollak) is a career and workplace expert and New York Times bestselling author of three career advice books. Lindsey represents the civilian perspective of this issue. 
    Veterans, explore new industries and make the right connections. Find a career that fits your calling. Join us at fourblock.org/
    Sponsor our program or host a class to equip more of our veterans at fourblock.org/donate.

    Follow FourBlock on Social Media 
    LinkedIn
    Facebook
    Instagram
    Twitter
    Podcast episodes are produced and edited by the Columbia University Center for Veteran Transition and Integration.
     

    • 28 min

Customer Reviews

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47 Ratings

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Really Enjoyed the Talk on Cultural Stress with Jaz Azeri

Lots of great info, really helpful. Thanks!

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Excellent Resource

These podcasts really help shape the transitions space in your head, heart, and what you will encounter out there. Great, GREAT resource and thanks.

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Awesome resources!

This is a great podcast, veterans are the targeted audience but this is applicable to most people

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