The HighLevel Experience

Vit Muller
The HighLevel Experience

Welcome to The HighLevel Experience: Disruptor Diaries, your number one source for motivation, inspiration, and clarity for achieving success with HighLevel. Our podcast aims to inspire you through the stories of successful agencies, Saaspreneurs, and high-level affiliates, focusing not only on their achievements but also on their journey to get there. Tune in every week for a fresh dose of the latest HighLevel feature updates in our weekly segment, where we geek out over the newest tools and strategies. Each episode is designed to equip fellow HighLeveler's with specific strategies, tactics, or tools that will help progress their business. But that's not all! We also share three quick stories of businesses that have made an impact as a result of using HighLevel. Our ultimate goal? To be the #1 HighLevel Podcast with the fastest-growing listener base. Join us on this exciting journey and let's disrupt together!

  1. Balancing Automation and Personal Touch with Micheal Pacitto

    22 小時前

    Balancing Automation and Personal Touch with Micheal Pacitto

    56 - Balancing Automation and Personal Touch with Micheal Pacitto In this engaging episode of the HighLevel Experience Podcast, host Vit Muller welcomes back Micheal Pacitto, a visionary leader in the SaaS industry. Known for his expertise in maximizing efficiency and value in SaaS platforms, Micheal shares his insights on the delicate balance between automation and maintaining a personal touch in business operations. Special Offer 🤩📣Micheal Pacitto is offering a free training course on the core skills every agency needs to master. This training includes practical lessons and quizzes designed to equip your team with the foundational skills necessary for success. Don't miss out on this opportunity to elevate your agency's performance go to highlevelexperience.com/michealpacitto About Micheal PacittoMicheal Pacitto is a renowned expert in SaaS platforms, known for his strategic approach to maximizing efficiency and value. With extensive experience working with diamond and gold SaaS agencies, Micheal is a true advocate for leveraging technology to drive business success. Highlights 🔥Key points we talked about in this pilot episode! 👉 [00:01:00] Catching Up with Micheal Pacitto - Vit and Micheal discuss the time since their last meeting and the busyness of their schedules.👉 [00:02:00] The Reality of Adult Friendship - A light-hearted conversation about the challenges of maintaining friendships in adulthood and the humorous idea of automating friendships.👉 [00:03:00] Automation in Business - Discussion on the role of automation in business, its benefits, and the potential loss of value when over-automating.👉 [00:04:00] The Value of Human Interaction - Micheal emphasizes the importance of maintaining personal connections with clients and the value of human interaction in business processes.👉 [00:07:00] Balancing Automation and Personal Touch - Vit and Micheal explore the balance between automation and personal interaction, discussing the potential pitfalls of over-automation.👉 [00:10:00] Understanding Client Needs - Strategies for understanding client needs, asking the right questions, and tailoring solutions to meet specific requirements.👉 [00:27:00] New Revenue Streams and Snapshot Development - Vit shares an exciting business opportunity involving the development of a custom snapshot for an agency, highlighting the potential for new revenue streams. Our Sponsors:We’re proud to partner with some of the top industry leaders who help make the HighLevel Experience Podcast possible: GrowthableCustomer Success team you need to scale your SaaS If you're a SaaS or digital agency founder, SMMA or AI entrepreneur looking to scale, this is the Customer Success team you need. From 24x7 Live chat support, onboarding and activations, certified VAs, coaching programs, live events, weekly workshops and more, Growthable is the Customer Success partner you've been waiting to find. Use code HLXP at checkout and get 10% off their plans. Level Up MarketplaceA cutting-edge platform designed to extend the functionality of HighLevel, offering a wide range of custom apps and workflow actions tailored to meet the diverse needs of agencies and SaaS...

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  2. From Corporate Life to Entrepreneurial Success with Francis Rodino

    7月1日

    From Corporate Life to Entrepreneurial Success with Francis Rodino

    55 - From Corporate Life to Entrepreneurial Success with Francis Rodino In this episode of the HighLevel Experience Podcast, host Vit Muller welcomes Francis Rodino, a leader in digital marketing and AI integration with sales automation. By his forties, Francis had already launched high-impact campaigns for global brands and founded Lead Hero AI in 2018, focusing on AI-driven systems for SMEs. His efforts have generated over $300 million in sales and saved businesses more than 200,000 hours. Francis is also the author of the bestselling book "Leads Machine" and a recipient of the prestigious HighLevel Gold Award. Special Offer 🤩📣🎁 Exclusive Offer for HighLevel Experience Podcast Listeners: Get access to: 📚 "Leads Machine" book 🔧 Ready-to-deploy GHL Snapshot 🎉 Exclusive bonuses to implement strategies instantly   Don't miss this rare opportunity to shortcut your path to predictable revenue and AI-powered automation. 💡 👉 Head over to highlevelexperience.com/francisrodino and start building your own leads machine today! About Francis RodinoFrancis Rodino, a leader in digital marketing and AI integration with sales automation. By his forties, Francis had already launched high-impact campaigns for global brands and founded Lead Hero AI in 2018, focusing on AI-driven systems for SMEs. His efforts have generated over $300 million in sales and saved businesses more than 200,000 hours. Francis is also the author of the bestselling book "Leads Machine" and a recipient of the prestigious HighLevel Gold Award. Highlights 🔥Key points we talked about in this pilot episode! 👉 [00:01:00] Introducing the Guest: Francis Rodino - Vit introduces Francis Rodino, highlighting his achievements in digital marketing and AI integration, and his founding of Lead Hero AI.👉 [00:02:00] Francis Rodino's Career Journey - Francis discusses his transition from corporate life, working with brands like PlayStation, to entrepreneurship, focusing on scalable systems for SMEs.👉 [00:04:00] Challenges and Realizations in Corporate Life - Francis shares his experiences and realizations in the corporate world, leading to his decision to pursue entrepreneurship for greater fulfillment and impact.👉 [00:21:00] Building a SaaS Agency with High Level - Discussion on the evolution of Francis's SaaS agency, Lead Hero AI, and the importance of customized services to reduce churn and increase client satisfaction.👉 [00:37:00] Overview of the RED Method - Francis introduces the RED Method, a framework for business growth, focusing on control, predictable sales, and standout visibility.👉 [00:50:00] AI Integration in Marketing - Francis shares a success story of using voice AI in the home services industry, highlighting its impact on improving responsiveness and customer engagement.👉 [01:09:00] Final Advice and Closing Remarks - Francis offers final advice to listeners, emphasizing resilience and continuous learning in entrepreneurship. Our Sponsors:We’re proud to partner with some of the top industry leaders who help make the HighLevel Experience Podcast possible: GrowthableCustomer Success team you need to scale your SaaS If you're a SaaS or digital agency founder, SMMA or AI entrepreneur looking to scale, this is the Customer Success team you need. From 24x7 Live chat support, onboarding and activations,...

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  3. Unlocking the Power of Voice AI: Transform Your Business Communication

    5月27日

    Unlocking the Power of Voice AI: Transform Your Business Communication

    54 - Unlocking the Power of Voice AI: Transform Your Business Communication In this episode of the HighLevel Experience Podcast, host Vit Muller welcomes Michael Reimer, a leading expert in voice AI and the CEO of CRM Pros. Based in South Florida, Michael has spent over 18 months leveraging and reselling HighLevel, combining it with custom marketing services to deliver transformative results for his SaaS clients. The discussion delves into Michael's journey from a 30-year career in the fire department to becoming a pioneer in the voice AI space, his innovative use of automation in the marine industry, and his insights on setting up effective voice AI agents. Special Offer 🤩📣Michael is offering a 50% discount on his prompt services for HighLevel Experience Podcast listeners. Additionally, there's a free voice AI guide available, covering everything from A to Z for small businesses. For more details and to access these offers, visit highlevelexperience.com/michaelreimer About MICHAEL REIMERMichael Reimer is the CEO of CRM Pros and a leading expert in voice AI. With a background in the fire department and marine industry, Michael has become a standout innovator in the automation space. His work focuses on building intelligent voice AI agents that enhance customer communication and streamline business operations. Highlights 🔥Key points we talked about in this pilot episode! 👉 [00:01:00] Michael's Journey to CRM Pros - Michael shares his transition from a 30-year career in the fire department to launching CRM Pros and his passion for automation.👉 [00:02:00] Automating the Marine Business - Discussion on how Michael used automation to manage maintenance for mega yachts and the impact of voice AI in this niche.👉 [00:05:00] Voice AI in Action - Michael explains his first voice AI project and how it transformed customer engagement and business operations.👉 [00:07:00] The Aha Moment: Embracing Voice AI - Michael recounts the seminar that sparked his interest in AI and how he integrated it into his business strategy.👉 [00:10:00] Setting Up Voice AI Agents - Insights into the importance of client onboarding and bundling services for successful voice AI implementation.👉 [00:21:00] The Business Opportunity of Voice AI - Exploration of the growing demand for voice AI and its potential to revolutionize small businesses.👉 [00:27:00] Advanced Automation Techniques - Michael discusses building systems around AI agents and innovative strategies like personalized ringless voicemails. Our Sponsors:We’re proud to partner with some of the top industry leaders who help make the HighLevel Experience Podcast possible: GrowthableCustomer Success team you need to scale your SaaS If you're a SaaS or digital agency founder, SMMA or AI entrepreneur looking to scale, this is the Customer Success team you need. From 24x7 Live chat support, onboarding and activations, certified VAs, coaching programs, live events, weekly workshops and more, Growthable is the Customer Success partner you've been waiting to find. Use code HLXP at checkout and get 10% off their plans. Level Up MarketplaceA cutting-edge platform designed to extend the functionality of HighLevel,...

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  4. How AI Chat Agents Can Elevate Your Agency

    5月13日

    How AI Chat Agents Can Elevate Your Agency

    53 - How AI Chat Agents Can Elevate Your Agency In this engaging episode of the HighLevel Experience Podcast, host Vit Muller sits down with Bryce DeCora, CEO and co-founder of CloseBot. Bryce shares his inspiring journey from a Nebraska farm to working at Boeing, and eventually becoming a tech entrepreneur in the AI and CRM space. The conversation delves into Bryce's transition from aerospace engineering to launching CloseBot, a premium AI agent platform designed for marketing agencies. Vit and Bryce discuss the challenges and lessons learned in entrepreneurship, the unique features of CloseBot, and the future of AI in business. Special Offer 🤩📣Don't miss out on this incredible opportunity to elevate your agency's performance and stay ahead of the competition. Use code HLXP at checkout to claim your $300 discount and start leveraging CloseBot today! 👉 Visit highlevelexperience.com/CloseBot to learn more and claim your discount today! About Bryce DeCoraBryce DeCora is the CEO and co-founder of CloseBot, a platform that revolutionizes lead qualification and booking for marketing agencies using AI. With a background in aerospace engineering and software development, Bryce has successfully transitioned into entrepreneurship, creating innovative solutions for the digital marketing landscape. Highlights 🔥Key points we talked about in this pilot episode! 👉 [00:02:00] Bryce DeCora's Journey from Engineering to Entrepreneurship - Bryce shares his transition from aerospace engineering at Boeing to becoming a tech entrepreneur, driven by a desire for purpose and independence.👉 [00:06:00] Challenges and Lessons in Entrepreneurship - Discussion on the importance of resilience, learning through failure, and overcoming imposter syndrome in the entrepreneurial journey.👉 [00:13:00] Introduction to CloseBot and Its Features - Overview of CloseBot as an AI agent builder for agencies, emphasizing its low prompt system and drag-and-drop interface for creating AI job flows.👉 [00:16:00] CloseBot V2 and Future Plans - Exploration of the new features in CloseBot V2, including enhanced drag-and-drop components and multi-platform integration.👉 [00:31:00] Business Models and Scalability - Discussion on various pricing models for agencies using CloseBot and strategies for scaling AI solutions across multiple sub-accounts.👉 [00:50:00] Special Offer for Podcast Listeners - Announcement of a special offer for listeners: up to $300 off the first payment with promo code HLXP, and insights into leveraging CloseBot for business growth.👉 [01:02:00] Personal Journeys and Business Challenges - Bryce reflects on the personal growth and challenges faced in scaling CloseBot, including managing a team and raising capital from friends and family. Our Sponsors:We’re proud to partner with some of the top industry leaders who help make the HighLevel Experience Podcast possible: GrowthableCustomer Success team you need to scale your SaaS If you're a SaaS or digital agency founder, SMMA or AI entrepreneur looking to scale, this is the Customer Success team you need. From 24x7 Live chat support, onboarding and activations, certified VAs, coaching programs, live events, weekly workshops and more, Growthable is the Customer Success partner you've been waiting to find. a...

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  5. From Onboarding to Retention: Strategies to Scale Your Agency

    5月6日

    From Onboarding to Retention: Strategies to Scale Your Agency

    52 - From Onboarding to Retention: Strategies to Scale Your Agency In this episode of the HighLevel Experience Podcast, host Vit Muller welcomes two dynamic leaders in the HighLevel community, Emily Bryant and Ryan O'Connor. Emily is the GM of Global Operations and Sales at Growthable, known for her expertise in automation and strategy. Ryan, the founder and CEO of Growthable, has transformed his passion for HighLevel into a successful global support platform. Together, they are pioneering the future of white-label support for HighLevel agencies. Special Offer 🤩📣If you're a SaaS or digital agency founder, SMMA or AI entrepreneur looking to scale, this is the Customer Success team you need. Visit highlevelexperience.com/growthable and use code HLXP at checkout and get 10% off. About Emily & RyanEmily Bryant: GM of Global Operations and Sales at Growthable, Emily is a strategic thinker with a passion for automation and client success. Ryan O'Connor: Founder and CEO of Growthable, Ryan is a visionary entrepreneur dedicated to providing elite-level client retention strategies and support for HighLevel users. Highlights 🔥Key points we talked about in this pilot episode! 👉 [00:01:24] Building Relationships in the High Level Community - Discussion on the importance of networking within the HighLevel ecosystem and how relationships formed at events like the Level Up Summit have been pivotal.👉 [00:03:46] The Power of Networking at Summits - Ryan and Emily share personal stories of how attending summits led to meaningful connections and professional growth.👉 [00:07:05] Emily Bryant's Career Journey - Emily shares her professional background, her transition from web design to HighLevel, and her passion for automation and team leadership.👉 [00:10:16] Ryan O'Connor's Aha Moment - Ryan discusses the realization that support is crucial for scaling agencies and how he built Growthable to meet this need.👉 [00:19:35] Bootstrapping and Scaling with High Level - Insights into the challenges and strategies of bootstrapping a business using HighLevel, emphasizing the importance of taking action.👉 [00:29:58] The Future of Automation and AI in High Level - Exploration of how automation and AI are transforming business operations and the potential future developments in HighLevel's platform.👉 [00:47:36] Onboarding and Retention Strategies - Emily and Ryan delve into common onboarding mistakes and the significance of customer success in reducing churn and enhancing user engagement. Our Sponsors:We’re proud to partner with some of the top industry leaders who help make the HighLevel Experience Podcast possible: GrowthableCustomer Success team you need to scale your SaaS If you're a SaaS or digital agency founder, SMMA or AI entrepreneur looking to scale, this is the Customer Success team you need. From 24x7 Live chat support, onboarding and activations, certified VAs, coaching programs, live events, weekly workshops and more, Growthable is the Customer Success partner you've been waiting to find. Use code HLXP at checkout and get 10% off their plans. Level Up MarketplaceA cutting-edge platform designed to extend the...

    1 小時 32 分鐘
  6. Scaling SaaS: Overcoming Challenges and Embracing Growth with Sarah Cordiner

    4月29日

    Scaling SaaS: Overcoming Challenges and Embracing Growth with Sarah Cordiner

    51 - Scaling SaaS: Overcoming Challenges and Embracing Growth with Sarah Cordiner In this inspiring episode of the HighLevel Experience Podcast, host Vit Muller welcomes the dynamic Sarah Cordiner, a trailblazer in the HighLevel community and a pioneer in online education. Sarah shares her incredible journey from being the youngest university director in Australian history to building TekMatix, a HighLevel-powered tech company that reached a $15 million valuation in its first year. The conversation delves into the power of community, the challenges of running a SaaS business, and the importance of celebrating achievements. Special Offer 🤩📣Sarah Cordiner’s got some insane free resources for you: ✅ Free 8-Week Course Creation Program✅ Lead Magnet Launcher✅ Personalized Business Action Plan Head over to highlevelexperience.com/sarahcordiner to take advantage of this offer 🔥 About Sarah CordinerSarah Cordiner is a renowned SaaSpreneur and educator with over 280,000 students across 181 countries. She is the founder of TekMatix, a HighLevel-powered tech company, and a leader in online course creation. Sarah's journey from a gypsy heritage to becoming a successful entrepreneur is a testament to her resilience and passion for education. Highlights 🔥Key points we talked about in this pilot episode! 👉 [00:01:13] Sarah Cordiner's Inspirational Journey - Sarah shares her journey from a gypsy heritage to becoming a leader in online education and entrepreneurship.👉 [00:03:19] The Power of Community and Networking - Discussion on the importance of community and networking in the HighLevel space and how it fosters lifelong friendships.👉 [00:04:31] Challenges and Realities of SaaS Business - Sarah and Vit discuss the challenges of running a SaaS business and the supportive nature of the HighLevel community.👉 [00:12:58] Building and Scaling TekMatix - Sarah talks about the creation and rapid growth of TekMatix, a HighLevel-powered tech company.👉 [00:14:47] Lessons Learned and Advice for SaaS Entrepreneurs - Insights into the importance of proper onboarding and managing customer expectations in a SaaS business.👉 [00:27:30] Security Measures and Fraud Prevention - Sarah shares her experiences with fraud prevention and the importance of security measures in SaaS.👉 [00:58:16] The Role of AI in Business Growth - Discussion on the potential of AI in enhancing customer support and business operations in the future. Our Sponsors:We’re proud to partner with some of the top industry leaders who help make the HighLevel Experience Podcast possible: GrowthableCustomer Success team you need to scale your SaaS If you're a SaaS or digital agency founder, SMMA or AI entrepreneur looking to scale, this is the Customer Success team you need. From 24x7 Live chat support, onboarding and activations, certified VAs, coaching programs, live events, weekly workshops and more, Growthable is the Customer Success partner you've been waiting to find. Use code HLXP at checkout and get 10% off their plans. Level Up MarketplaceA cutting-edge platform designed to extend the functionality of HighLevel, offering a wide range of custom...

    1 小時 34 分鐘
  7. Tracking User Adoption: The Key to HighLevel SaaS Success

    4月22日

    Tracking User Adoption: The Key to HighLevel SaaS Success

    50 - Tracking User Adoption: The Key to HighLevel SaaS Success In this milestone 50th episode of the HighLevel Experience Podcast, host Vit Muller sits down with Tim Sabir, the visionary founder of GoCSM. Tim is a trailblazer in the realm of customer success management, particularly within the SaaS industry. The conversation delves into the importance of customer success management (CSM) for SaaS businesses, the journey behind the creation of GoCSM, and how agencies can leverage CSM to reduce churn and enhance client retention. Special Offer 🤩📣Tim offers a 10% discount on GoCSM for the first 75 agencies that sign up. No payment required until the account is fully set up.To take advantage of this offer, visit highlevelexperience.com/gocsm About Tim SabirTim Sabir is the founder of GoCSM, a company dedicated to revolutionizing customer success management for SaaS businesses. With a deep understanding of SaaS operations, Tim has developed innovative solutions to help agencies reduce churn and build lasting client relationships. Highlights 🔥Key points we talked about in this pilot episode! 👉 [00:01:15] Tim Sabir's Journey and the Birth of GoCSM - Tim shares the story behind GoCSM, explaining his initial reluctance to create another software and how the need for effective customer success management led to its development.👉  [00:03:54] Challenges and Solutions in SaaS - Discussion on the challenges faced by SaaS businesses, particularly high churn rates, and the realization of the importance of customer success management to reduce churn. 👉 [00:05:38] The Importance of Customer Success Management - Tim elaborates on the significance of customer success management, sharing insights on how understanding customer needs and delivering on promises can enhance client retention. 👉 [00:16:19] The Five Pillars of Customer Success - Introduction to the five pillars of customer success, including onboarding, customer satisfaction, product adoption, customer engagement, and feedback. 👉 [00:23:41] Product Adoption and Customer Retention - Exploration of strategies to improve product adoption and retention, emphasizing the importance of making customers aware of and utilizing all available features.👉  [00:32:58] Strategies for Product Adoption - Tim discusses the development of features to enhance customer engagement and product adoption, including tracking usage and providing targeted support. 👉 [00:52:16] Special Offer for GoCSM - Announcement of a special offer for listeners: a 10% discount on GoCSM for the first 75 agencies, with no payment required until the account is fully set up. Visit highlevelexperience.com/gocsm to access the offer. Our Sponsors:We’re proud to partner with some of the top industry leaders who help make the HighLevel Experience Podcast possible: GrowthableCustomer Success team you need to scale your SaaS If you're a SaaS or digital agency founder, SMMA or AI entrepreneur looking to scale, this is the Customer Success team you need. From 24x7 Live chat support, onboarding and activations, certified VAs, coaching programs, live events, weekly workshops and more, Growthable is the Customer Success partner you've been waiting to find. a...

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  8. How SaaS Agencies and Subject Matter Experts Can Co-Create Success

    4月15日

    How SaaS Agencies and Subject Matter Experts Can Co-Create Success

    49 - How SaaS Agencies and Subject Matter Experts Can Co-Create Success In this engaging episode of the HighLevel Experience Podcast, host Vit Muller welcomes Tom Adam, a strategic partner in the martial arts club management space and founder of Curious Growth. Tom shares his inspiring journey of transforming his martial arts club into a thriving community and how he now helps other club owners break growth barriers using HighLevel. The conversation delves into the impact of the pandemic on martial arts clubs, the importance of leveraging technology for business growth, and the strategic use of HighLevel to streamline operations and enhance client experiences. About Thomas AdamThomas Adam is a strategic partner in the martial arts club management space, a master of scaling businesses, and a true testament to the power of leveraging technology for business growth. After transforming his own martial arts club from a fledgling startup to a thriving community with over 300 members across two bustling locations, he didn’t stop there. Using GoHighLevel, he has carved a niche in helping other club owners smash through growth barriers and exceed the $500K revenue mark. Highlights 🔥Key points we talked about in this pilot episode! 👉 [00:00:52] Tom's Journey with Curious Growth - Tom shares his journey of starting Curious Growth, inspired by the pandemic, and his passion for continuous improvement and growth.👉 [00:01:12] Impact of the Pandemic on Martial Arts Clubs - Discussion on how the pandemic affected martial arts clubs and how Tom leveraged his media presence and mentorship to navigate challenges.👉 [00:03:25] Founding and Growing Berra Martial Arts - Tom recounts the story of founding Berra Martial Arts, growing it from a small startup to a thriving community, and the pivotal moments in its development.👉 [00:07:01] Leveraging Technology for Business Growth - Exploration of how Tom used HighLevel to enhance client experience, improve conversion rates, and achieve predictable revenue growth.👉 [00:11:34] The Double Diamond Approach - Introduction to the Double Diamond method for redesigning solutions and its application in business strategy and client interactions.👉 [00:23:56] Sales Strategies and Client Relationships - Insights into effective sales strategies, the importance of listening to clients, and building genuine connections for successful client relationships.👉 [00:28:30] Strategic Partnerships and Leveraging Synergies - Discussion on the power of strategic partnerships, leveraging synergies for business growth, and the collaborative efforts between Tom and Vit. Our Sponsors:We’re proud to partner with some of the top industry leaders who help make the HighLevel Experience Podcast possible: GrowthableCustomer Success team you need to scale your SaaS If you're a SaaS or digital agency founder, SMMA or AI entrepreneur looking to scale, this is the Customer Success team you need. From 24x7 Live chat support, onboarding and activations, certified VAs, coaching programs, live events, weekly workshops and more, Growthable is the Customer Success partner you've been waiting to find. Use code HLXP at checkout and get 10% off their plans. Level Up MarketplaceA...

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Welcome to The HighLevel Experience: Disruptor Diaries, your number one source for motivation, inspiration, and clarity for achieving success with HighLevel. Our podcast aims to inspire you through the stories of successful agencies, Saaspreneurs, and high-level affiliates, focusing not only on their achievements but also on their journey to get there. Tune in every week for a fresh dose of the latest HighLevel feature updates in our weekly segment, where we geek out over the newest tools and strategies. Each episode is designed to equip fellow HighLeveler's with specific strategies, tactics, or tools that will help progress their business. But that's not all! We also share three quick stories of businesses that have made an impact as a result of using HighLevel. Our ultimate goal? To be the #1 HighLevel Podcast with the fastest-growing listener base. Join us on this exciting journey and let's disrupt together!

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