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The Insight Interviews - Powered by Rewire

Here’s the deal. You have it in you to grow yourself and your business to even greater heights than you’ve already reached. We’re gathering a collection of some amazingly insightful people to help you do just that. Each week with The Insight Interviews, we’ll unpack the experiences of unique business leaders, high capacity sales professionals and standout thought leaders to explore what they have learned along their road to success in order to open the door to insights you can use to achieve your own. We want to help you see beneath the surface of whatever it is that you call success and into the changes in thinking that make your sustainable and actionable success possible. Your hosts, Jason Abell and Steve Scanlon, have a combined 33,000 hours coaching entrepreneurs, leaders and high performers of all kinds. They have started 9 businesses between them, and during their individual careers have been responsible for billions of dollars of production in the residential mortgage industry. They are each crazy about their wives, their dogs, and sometimes even their kids. If you want to grow by gathering insights from the successes (and failures) of some of the best in business, The Insight Interviews is for you. It’s powered by Rewire. And it’s freaking awesome!

  1. 273 Vince Wanga - The Art of Direction

    4D AGO

    273 Vince Wanga - The Art of Direction

    Vince Wanga is a dynamic international design thought leader, creative keynote speaker, award-winning creative executive, author of The Art of Direction, serial entrepreneur, and experienced brand consultant with an exceptional range of expertise built over a distinguished two-decade career. As the former Vice President and Head of Creative for one of the fastest-growing technology startups in North America, he led corporate brand strategy and creative direction during a period of extraordinary growth, from pre-Series A to a “unicorn” valuation of over $1 billion. In this episode, Jason and Vince discuss: Why failures were the greatest teacher in Vince’s creative and leadership journeyThe meaning behind his book, The Art of Direction, and why leadership is an artHow creative leaders play a pivotal role at the forefront of business changeThe realistic role of AI in the workplace and how leaders should approach itWhat he learned scaling a company from Series A to a $1B valuation in four years Key Takeaways:  Vince attributes much of his growth and resilience to the failures he encountered early in his career, viewing them as foundational learning experiences rather than setbacks.Leadership isn’t something you apply like a formula; it’s a nuanced, evolving practice that demands empathy, creativity, and the ability to adapt to changing people and circumstances.The most successful companies aren’t reactive—they stay true to their core values and make bold, intentional choices even when the market zigs in a different direction.Rather than fearing artificial intelligence, leaders should view it as a partner—a tool that can automate mundane tasks and amplify strategy when used wisely.Creative professionals often feel disruption before others do, serving as early indicators of broader changes in business and culture—what Vince calls the "canaries in the coal mine." “I truly believe leadership has to be empathetic. You need to understand your industry, your team, and your customer—and that requires the ability to adapt, not just with the times, but with circumstances, the economy, and all the variables thrown your way. That’s where the science of leadership breaks down, and it becomes an art form—because art, inherently, is an adaptable strategy.” - Vince Wanga Connect with Vince Wanga: Website: https://www.vincentwanga.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vincent-wanga/  Vince’s Book: https://www.vincentwanga.com/shop  Connect with Steve and Jason: LinkedIn: Jason or Steve Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking  Email: grow@rewireinc.com Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    38 min
  2. 272 Steve and Jason - RAMPS: A Proven Model for Change

    JUL 4

    272 Steve and Jason - RAMPS: A Proven Model for Change

    Are you ready to uncover what truly drives lasting change—for yourself, your team, or your entire organization? In this episode, we dive into the powerful RAMPS framework, exploring how results, action, mindset, process, and system come together to spark meaningful transformation. Learn why behavior change alone isn’t enough, how mindset shifts accelerate progress, and why understanding the broader system you’re part of is essential. Whether you're a leader, coach, or someone navigating growth, this conversation offers a practical, insightful guide to intentional, sustainable change. In this episode, Steve Scanlon, Steve Longan, and Jason discuss: The foundational questions driving personal and organizational change: “Do people change?” and “How?”The decade-long development of RAMPS — a comprehensive framework for changeThe metaphor of the Isle of Tortuga as a lens for understanding change and transformationHow mindset, action, and systems interact to facilitate sustainable growthWhy prescriptive methods often fall short and how RAMPS respects individual differentiation Key Takeaways:  Lasting change is possible, but it requires a dual focus: honoring the unique journey of the individual while also considering the system they operate within. Ignoring either side risks an incomplete transformation.The RAMPS framework—Results, Action, Mindset, Process, System—offers a fluid, practical structure for navigating positive change. It’s designed to be comprehensive yet adaptable across diverse contexts and leadership levels.Too often, people attempt change through sheer willpower or behavior tweaks, only to stall out. Without addressing mindset, those efforts rarely stick or scale.You don’t need to start at the beginning to benefit from RAMPS. Whether you're targeting action, mindset, or results, the model is built to meet you where you are, while still guiding you through the full arc of transformation.The impact of change doesn’t end at work. When someone grows through the RAMPS process, the benefits often ripple into their home life, relationships, and broader community. “Mindset goes beyond behavior modification — we can’t help people change how they act until we change how they think.” - Steve Scanlon Connect with Steve and Jason: LinkedIn: Jason or Steve Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking  Email: grow@rewireinc.com Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    30 min
  3. 271 Kevin Eikenberry - Flexible Leadership

    JUN 27

    271 Kevin Eikenberry - Flexible Leadership

    Kevin Eikenberry is a world‑renowned leadership and remote‑work expert, bestselling author, speaker, consultant, and coach, and proudly serves as Chief Potential Officer of The Kevin Eikenberry Group, which he founded in 1993. With roots on a Michigan farm and a B.S. from Purdue, Kevin learned early lessons in values, work ethic, and trust. He's the co‑founder of The Remote Leadership Institute and creator of Signature programs like From Bud to Boss and the Long‑Distance Leader series. Twice named by Inc.com as a Top 100 Leadership Expert and recognized by Global Gurus and AMA, he empowers leaders to turn potential into impact. A storyteller at heart, Kevin inspires audiences to embrace learning as play. In this episode, Jason and Kevin discuss: What it means to lead with gratitude in uncertain timesThe core concept behind Kevin’s new book, Flexible LeadershipWhy rigid leadership styles are becoming increasingly ineffectiveThe danger of over-identifying with your leadership "type"Practical ways leaders can flex and adapt based on context Key Takeaways:  Leadership must evolve to keep pace with a rapidly changing and increasingly complex world. What worked yesterday may not work today—adaptation is no longer optional.Flexibility isn’t about compromising your values—it’s about staying rooted while shifting your methods. Just like a tree bends with the wind but stays grounded, effective leaders adjust without losing their core.Locking yourself into a single leadership style can limit your effectiveness. True growth comes when you move beyond your default behaviors and respond to what the moment truly requires.Engaging with your team on a deeper level is essential, especially in uncertain times. Trust and collaboration flourish when leaders listen, involve others, and stay open to feedback.“It depends” can be a leadership superpower. Taking a moment to assess the true context before acting leads to wiser, more impactful decisions. “We have to be able to think differently about how we lead in any given moment—especially when it challenges our comfort zones, past experiences, or auto-responses. We must move beyond those defaults to lead in a way that fits the moment and gives us the best chance of success, even if it’s not what we prefer, are used to, or feel comfortable with. That’s what flexible leadership is—going beyond our auto-responses.” - Kevin Eikenberry Claim Kevin's free gift to boost your confidence and leadership skills: https://kevineikenberry.com/gift Connect with Kevin Eikenberry: Website: https://kevineikenberry.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevineikenberry/  Kevin’s books: https://kevineikenberry.com/books/  Podcasts: https://kevineikenberry.com/podcasts/  Connect with Steve and Jason: LinkedIn: Jason or Steve Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking  Email: grow@rewireinc.com Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    35 min
  4. 270 Laura Michael - Raise The Ceiling (and the floor)

    JUN 20

    270 Laura Michael - Raise The Ceiling (and the floor)

    Laura Michael is one of Rewire's Professional Certified Coaches, focusing primarily on Leadership Coaching. Laura is a communication connoisseur with a passion for helping individuals break free from societal expectations and embrace their true potential. She has spent over 20 years in corporate America, and currently owns and operates Professional Box Breaker, where she provides leadership coaching programs to organizations as an employee benefit for rising leaders. Through her own experiences and coaching conversations, Laura inspires others to navigate their paths with confidence and embrace the freedom of living outside the box.   In this episode, Jason and Laura discuss: The concept of “Raise the Ceiling, Raise the Floor” and how it applies to leadership and personal growthWhy letting go of low-impact tasks creates space for true growthThe power of choosing intentional discomfort in both work and lifeHow does this model support team development and upward mobility for everyoneStrategies for reframing delegation and aligning team goals with personal growth Key Takeaways:  Growth isn’t just about doing more—it’s about doing differently. To evolve, we must intentionally release what no longer serves us.Your comfort zone may feel productive, but real transformation happens in the discomfort of your "ceiling" and the release of your "floor."Delegation is not simply handing off tasks—it's about building trust, creating support systems, and enabling others to step into their stretch zones.You don’t need a big team to grow. Automation, outsourcing, or even shifting priorities can create the space needed to elevate your capacity.Leadership is often less about doing and more about being—and that takes intentional capacity and awareness. “The beauty of this model is that your floor is someone else's ceiling, and your ceiling is somebody else's floor. It ends up being this beautiful staircase where everybody levels up together, as long as everybody is taking on some ceiling and giving away some floor.” - Laura Michael Connect with Laura Michael: Website: https://www.professionalboxbreaker.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mrslauramichael/  Email: lauram@rewireinc.com  Connect with Steve and Jason: LinkedIn: Jason or Steve Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking  Email: grow@rewireinc.com Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    37 min
  5. 269 Jon Sneider - Hacking Advertising

    JUN 13

    269 Jon Sneider - Hacking Advertising

    Jon Sneider is the dynamic Founder and President of Wild Gravity, LLC, a creative production powerhouse for technology brands. As the bestselling author of Hacking Advertising, Jon brings a pragmatic, results-driven approach to marketing, shaped by decades of experience in global advertising across TV, digital, social, and retail channels. A veteran marketing executive, Jon has led innovative campaigns for some of the world’s largest brands, earning numerous industry accolades for creativity and business impact. In 2017, he co-founded Wild Gravity with Jonathan Harris, driven by a mission to revolutionize the advertising-production landscape through efficiency and creative excellence. In this episode, Jason and Jon discuss: How to produce high-quality ads without the traditional agency modelThe five magic metrics that determine advertising successThe evolution of digital marketing and how big brands are adaptingWhy creative production companies can outperform traditional ad agenciesThe role of AI in modern advertising and its current limitations Key Takeaways:  Jon champions creative production companies, like Wild Gravity, that seamlessly integrate creative services, production, and post-production. This innovative approach eliminates inefficiencies while delivering high-quality ads faster and at a lower cost compared to traditional agencies.The five essential metrics—breakthrough, brand recall, message clarity, likability, and purchase intent—are pivotal in crafting impactful ads. Mastering these metrics not only enhances brand presence but also drives measurable business outcomes.Jon’s journey from large advertising firms to founding Wild Gravity was driven by witnessing the outdated, fragmented processes within traditional agencies. This realization catalyzed his mission to streamline ad production through a more holistic and efficient model.The episode reveals the transformative power of professional relationships, as Jon’s network played a crucial role in his entrepreneurial journey. Cultivating connections is not just beneficial but foundational to long-term success.While AI is a valuable tool for ideation and drafting, human intervention remains indispensable. The nuanced discussion emphasizes that creativity and refinement still lie within human expertise despite AI advancements. “If you want to start a company one day, get a job in the industry that you want to start your company in, learn every single role that there is, try and work every single role, and in that way you are going to figure out what the niche is for your company, and in that way you can be successful.” - Jon Sneider Connect with Jon Sneider: Website: https://www.wildgravity.net/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sneider/  Jon’s Book: https://hackingadvertising.com/  Connect with Steve and Jason: LinkedIn: Jason or Steve Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking  Email: grow@rewireinc.com Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    33 min
  6. 268 Meg Thomas Crosby & Howard Cleveland - The Six Imperatives of Leadership

    JUN 6

    268 Meg Thomas Crosby & Howard Cleveland - The Six Imperatives of Leadership

    Meg Crosby and Howard Cleveland co-founded PeopleCap Advisors in 2012 to empower leaders and elevate organizations. Prior to PeopleCap, Crosby worked as an HR leader for companies of all sizes, including a small tech start-up as a sole HR practitioner, and at Google, where she led acquisition integration. Her corporate work, consulting practice, and board experience have established her as an expert in organizational culture, people strategy, and high growth. Cleveland began his career as a labor and employment attorney, guiding leaders through complex employee issues and fostering cultures of trust. Now a sought-after coach and advisor for leaders spanning five continents, Cleveland is known for his strategic insights, leadership expertise, and intuitive understanding of human dynamics. In this episode, Jason, Meg, and Howard discuss: Discover the story behind PeopleCap Advisors and their new book, Running the GauntletKey leadership challenges during high-growth phases and how to overcome themExplore six key imperatives for successful high-growth leadershipHow to develop a "self-replicating talent machine" within an organizationThe importance of culture in leadership and how to define, demonstrate, and defend it Key Takeaways:  Building a strong foundation for long-term success often stems from leveraging complementary skill sets. Their dynamic partnership highlights how diverse perspectives can enrich leadership strategies and drive growth.As high-growth companies expand, leaders must transition from being generalists to specialists. This evolution requires continuous learning and the ability to adapt one's skills to meet the demands of a more complex organizational structure.Sustainable growth hinges on creating robust systems for hiring, training, and talent development. Implementing consistent practices ensures that successful leadership traits are reproduced throughout the organization, fostering long-term resilience.Letting go of long-time employees who no longer fit the evolving structure is not just necessary but beneficial. This intentional liberation can open new opportunities for both the individual and the organization, fostering alignment and renewed momentum.Effective leaders know that culture is not just established but maintained through intentional actions. Defining, demonstrating, and defending cultural values is essential to preserving accountability and ensuring sustainable progress, even during rapid growth. “That's one of the great things about having a strong culture. It will attract the right people and repel others. It doesn't mean that the people it repels are bad; it just means they're not a fit for the culture.” - Meg Thomas Crosby Connect with Meg Crosby & Howard Cleveland: Website: https://www.peoplecap.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meg-thomas-crosby-6424781a/                  https://www.linkedin.com/in/howardcleveland/  Emails: meg.crosby@peoplecap.com , howard.cleveland@peoplecap.com  Meg & Howard’s Book: https://www.peoplecap.com/book/  Connect with Steve and Jason: LinkedIn: Jason or Steve Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking  Email: grow@rewireinc.com Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    37 min
  7. 267 Jason and Steve - Fueling Growth Through People

    MAY 30

    267 Jason and Steve - Fueling Growth Through People

    Ready to rethink what truly fuels growth? Jason and Steve reveal why systems alone aren’t enough—and why people are the real growth engine. Learn how soft skills, mindset, and personalized development plans drive meaningful transformation across organizations. Discover why ongoing coaching, adaptive thinking, and leadership by example are the keys to avoiding stagnation and unlocking next-level performance. Whether you're leading a team or leading yourself, this episode challenges you to shift from process-driven to people-first growth. Let’s explore the human side of scaling success! In this episode, Jason and Steve discuss: Why elite systems alone won’t lead to lasting growth without human developmentThe importance of mindset, soft skills, and personalized development in the workplaceFour key principles to drive growth through people instead of just processHow leaders can model the behavior they wish to see in their teamsThe measurable ROI of investing in ongoing personal and professional coaching Key Takeaways:  Without prioritizing people development, even the best processes eventually plateau. Human growth is not just complementary—it’s foundational to real progress.Growth isn’t a checkbox; it’s a commitment. The episode emphasizes how cultivating a culture of continuous learning and evolving mindsets is what separates thriving teams from stagnant ones.Rather than issuing directives, impactful leaders set the tone by embodying the very changes they seek, proving that transformation begins from the inside out, not as a top-down directive.Individualized development rooted in personality, goals, and strengths isn’t just empowering—it’s essential for retention and engagement in today’s workforce.Professional coaching emerges not merely as an optional perk but as a powerful catalyst for transformation, offering a mirror to reframe thinking, challenge assumptions, and accelerate lasting personal and organizational change. “We are the ones that adapt in a system. And when we can do that, we can take systems that we built and make them better. But if we don't focus on people—how we process, how we develop our skills, and how we get better internally—then everything seems to stagnate and get flat.” - Steve Scanlon Connect with Steve and Jason: LinkedIn: Jason or Steve Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking  Email: grow@rewireinc.com Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    31 min
  8. 266 Matthew Hibler - Embrace Change

    MAY 23

    266 Matthew Hibler - Embrace Change

    Matthew Hibler is a partner and co-founder of Artisan Home Loans. With over 21 years of experience, he has been a leading mortgage professional in the Colorado marketplace. His accomplishments include national recognition by Scotsman Guide as a top mortgage professional. Matthew is the proud father of a 10-year-old daughter and a 10-month-old son. He and his wife, Maggie, love the outdoors and make time to ski, hike, and travel to the beach as often as they can. In this episode, Steve and Matthew discuss: Why embracing change is crucial in business and lifeHow creativity and deep listening can shape successful careersThe future of tech in mortgage and professional servicesBalancing soft skills and technical mastery in client relationshipsThe role of expert confidence in building trust and delivering results Key Takeaways:  Embracing change serves as a growth catalyst, especially in industries like mortgage lending, where adaptability often determines long-term success.Powerful mentorship begins with asking thoughtful, curiosity-driven questions that respect and support someone else’s unique journey.Creativity, when paired with deep listening and market awareness, becomes a true differentiator in crowded, competitive spaces.The future lies in a world where cutting-edge technology enhances—rather than replaces—human connection, leading to healthier, more mobile professionals.Genuine confidence isn’t manufactured; it’s earned through relentless study, technical mastery, and the ability to instill trust beyond pricing or promotion. “There's so much growth that comes from the requirement of embracing change.” - Matthew Hibler Connect with Matthew Hibler: Website: https://www.artisanhomeloans.com/  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-hibler-6801534/  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hiblerteam.lending/  Connect with Steve and Jason: LinkedIn: Jason or Steve Website: Rewire, Inc.: Transformed Thinking  Email: grow@rewireinc.com Show notes by: Angelo Paul Tagama Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.

    37 min
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Here’s the deal. You have it in you to grow yourself and your business to even greater heights than you’ve already reached. We’re gathering a collection of some amazingly insightful people to help you do just that. Each week with The Insight Interviews, we’ll unpack the experiences of unique business leaders, high capacity sales professionals and standout thought leaders to explore what they have learned along their road to success in order to open the door to insights you can use to achieve your own. We want to help you see beneath the surface of whatever it is that you call success and into the changes in thinking that make your sustainable and actionable success possible. Your hosts, Jason Abell and Steve Scanlon, have a combined 33,000 hours coaching entrepreneurs, leaders and high performers of all kinds. They have started 9 businesses between them, and during their individual careers have been responsible for billions of dollars of production in the residential mortgage industry. They are each crazy about their wives, their dogs, and sometimes even their kids. If you want to grow by gathering insights from the successes (and failures) of some of the best in business, The Insight Interviews is for you. It’s powered by Rewire. And it’s freaking awesome!

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