The Jabot

Kathryn Rubino at Above the Law
The Jabot

We are an offshoot of the Above the Law legal blog. But we are focused on the challenges women, people of color, LGBTQIA, and other diverse populations face in the legal industry. Let's be real -- it can suck out there. So we want to create a space where our community can come together share stories, find support and devise strategies. Our name comes from none other than the Notorious Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the jabot (decorative collar) she wears when delivering dissents from the bench. It's a reminder that --even when we aren't winning, we're still a powerful force to be reckoned with.

  1. NOV 19

    Criminal Defense Attorney Fights For Clients With Mental Disabilities with Elizabeth Kelley

    Kathryn Rubino chats with Elizabeth Kelley, a dedicated criminal defense attorney fighting for justice for individuals with mental disabilities. Kelley shares her journey from literature student to a passionate advocate in a field needing reform. Her insights into mental health law and her hands-on approach to client representation are inspiring and thought-provoking. Tune in to discover why compassion and understanding are vital in the legal world, and how her work hopes to shape a more inclusive justice system. Highlights Balancing humanities and law. Outrage about mental disabilities. Finding fulfillment in criminal defense. Starting a law firm. Lessons from opening a practice. Importance of wellness and coaching. Mental wellness in law school. Writing practical guides for lawyers. Value of independent forensic evaluations. A powerful courtroom experience. The role of problem-solving courts. Advice for pursuing justice for mental disabilities.   Episode Sponsored By  https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus    Links and Resources https://www.elizabethkelleylaw.com/ https://www.elizabethkelleylaw.com/books/ https://www.elizabethkelleylaw.com/podcast/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-kelley-14110430/   Subscribe, Share and Review To get the next episode subscribe with your favorite podcast player. Subscribe with Apple Podcasts Follow on Spotify Leave a review on Apple Podcasts

    23 min
  2. NOV 5

    You Have To Change How You Think About Free Speech with Mary Anne Franks

    Kathryn Rubino chats with Mary Anne Franks, a leading voice in Intellectual Property and Civil Rights Law. Uncover the essence of fearless speech and why it’s crucial in today’s world. Explore bold concepts from her new book that challenge conventional First Amendment beliefs. A must-listen for anyone intrigued by legal boundaries and free speech dynamics!   Highlights Life and career updates since 2020. Transition from Miami to George Washington University. Balancing academia and publication. Clear communication as education and writing goal. Importance of free speech. Why focus on the First Amendment in the second book. The constant evolution of First Amendment discussions. Public and legal misconceptions about censorship. Members of Congress misunderstanding censorship. New framework for evaluating and understanding free speech. Definition and importance of “Fearless Speech.” Story of Dorothy Thompson as an example of fearless speech. Difference between protecting and promoting speech. University campuses and the issue of controversial speakers.   Episode Sponsored By  https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus    Links and Resources https://www.amazon.com/Fearless-Speech-Breaking-First-Amendment/dp/1645030539/ref=sr_1_1 https://www.law.gwu.edu/mary-anne-franks https://cybercivilrights.org/   Subscribe, Share and Review To get the next episode subscribe with your favorite podcast player. Subscribe with Apple Podcasts Follow on Spotify Leave a review on Apple Podcasts

    34 min
  3. OCT 22

    Using Your Law Degree For Good with Dale Margolin Cecka

    In this episode, host Kathryn Rubino interviews Dale Margolin Cecka, Albany Law School professor and director of family violence litigation. Discover her journey in law, challenges in child advocacy, and insights on family law education. Gain a deeper understanding of domestic violence legislation, its impact on survivors, and potential legal reforms. A must-listen for anyone interested in law, justice, and societal change!   Highlights Why law school: a journey to child advocacy. Transition from child advocacy to family law. Challenges with systems in child advocacy. Discovering a passion for family law. Law school clinics: bridging practice and theory. Role of clinics in true legal education. Traits that align with family law practice. Violence Against Women Act's impact and shortcomings. Critical issues with protective orders enforcement. Need for public education on domestic abuse. Future of domestic violence law reform. Episode Sponsored By  https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus  Links and Resources https://www.linkedin.com/in/dale-margolin-cecka-202255165/ https://www.salon.com/2024/08/21/it-ends-with-us-domestic-violence-lawyer/ https://www.commondreams.org/opinion/domestic-violence-rebecca-cheptegei https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/IPV-Prevention-Resource_508.pdf#:~:text=Data%20from%20the%20National%20Intimate%20Partner%20and%20Sexual,etc.%29%20from%20an%20intimate%20partner%20in%20their%20lifetime https://www.ojp.gov/ncjrs/virtual-library/abstracts/child-custody-evaluators-beliefs-about-domestic-abuse-allegations   Subscribe, Share and Review To get the next episode subscribe with your favorite podcast player. Subscribe with Apple Podcasts Follow on Spotify Leave a review on Apple Podcasts

    28 min
  4. OCT 8

    Former Biglaw Partner Writes Biting Novel Dishing On What's Wrong With The Profession with Luba Shur

    Join host Kathryn as she chats with Luba Shur, author of “Rule 23” about her journey from law to novelist. Discover her insights on legal ethics, the myth of class actions, and how she balances writing with a legal career. A must-listen for aspiring lawyer-authors!   Highlights Intersection of reality and fantasy in career choice Early reading and legal career expectations Surprising twists and interesting outcomes in legal career Balancing writing and legal career Rule 23 as a skewer of legal profession dysfunction Inspiration behind the character Vera Creating compelling flawed characters Challenges of legal ethics and ambition Significance of mentorship and legal education critique Reality of Rule 23 and litigation process Future writing projects exploring startup culture Advice for balancing legal careers with writing Episode Sponsored By  https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus    Links and Resources https://www.amazon.in/dp/B0D8K6SJXS?ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_ERPEZFRSCQ5129K0D5PJ&ref_=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_ERPEZFRSCQ5129K0D5PJ&social_share=cm_sw_r_cp_ud_dp_ERPEZFRSCQ5129K0D5PJ&skipTwisterOG=1 https://www.audible.com/pd/Rule-23-Audiobook/B0D9HYRMFR?action_code=ASSGB149080119000H&share_location=pdp https://www.instagram.com/luba.shur/?hl=en https://www.tiktok.com/@luba.shur https://www.linkedin.com/in/luba-shur-7b73033a/   Subscribe, Share and Review To get the next episode subscribe with your favorite podcast player. Subscribe with Apple Podcasts Follow on Spotify Leave a review on Apple Podcasts

    25 min
  5. OCT 1

    How To Create A Fulfilling Law Practice with Calyssa Zellars and Kya Henley

    Discover the inspiring journeys of Calyssa Zellars Kya Henley, founders of Saint Park Law, on this episode of the Jabot Podcast! Learn how these two dynamic lawyers navigated non-linear career paths, left big law to start their own firm, and stayed true to their mission. Gain insights into their unique approach to crisis management and investigations, the importance of intentional practice, and how they’ve blended personal passion with professional excellence. Don’t miss this episode for a fresh take on entrepreneurship in law! Highlights Why law school? Personal motivations for impactful careers. Career transition: Becoming civil rights attorneys. Non-linear career path: From Detroit Lions to PR. Public defender experience: Passion fueled by Trayvon Martin case. Entrepreneurship: Founding Saint Park Law. Building a mission: Aligning skills with passion. Identity in firm name: Personal maternal lineage inspiration. Balancing work and life: Strategies for managing mental health. Advice for new lawyers: “No one knows you better than you.” Encouragement to be pioneers: Charting unique career paths. Episode Sponsored By  https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus  Links and Resources https://www.saintparklaw.com/ https://www.instagram.com/saintparklaw/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/saint-park-llp/about/   Subscribe, Share and Review To get the next episode subscribe with your favorite podcast player. Subscribe with Apple Podcasts Follow on Spotify Leave a review on Apple Podcasts

    25 min
  6. SEP 17

    Writing The Kind Of Legal Story You Want To Read with Lori Duff

    In this episode, Kathryn chats with Lori Duff, author of the upcoming book, “Devil’s Defense.” Lori shares candid insights about her accidental journey into law, her love for trial work, and the striking realism that underpins her novel. Discover her struggles balancing a legal career with writing, the hilarious challenges of introducing technology to courts during COVID, and her advice for lawyers with creative passions. This episode offers a compelling portrait of a small-town lawyer’s life and the passion driving her literary journey. Highlights Lori’s decision to go to law school. The connection between performance and trial work. Building a practice in a small town. Incorporating small-town southern life in “Devil’s Defense.” Realistic portrayal of legal practice in the book. Impact of politician’s confirmation hearing on Lori’s writing. Developing the “Fisher At Law” series. Balancing writing with legal practice. Impact of COVID on legal practice and Lori’s role in the state-level response. Frustrations with technology adoption in the legal field. Technology’s lasting implications in law post-COVID. Navigating from conception to publication as an author. Importance of finding time for personal passions. Episode Resources https://www.loriduffwrites.com/ https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Devils-Defense/Lori-B-Duff/9781647427368  Episode Sponsored By https://www.lexisnexis.com/lexisplus    Subscribe, Share and Review To get the next episode subscribe with your favorite podcast player. Subscribe with Apple Podcasts Follow on Spotify Leave a review on Apple Podcasts

    26 min
4.6
out of 5
32 Ratings

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We are an offshoot of the Above the Law legal blog. But we are focused on the challenges women, people of color, LGBTQIA, and other diverse populations face in the legal industry. Let's be real -- it can suck out there. So we want to create a space where our community can come together share stories, find support and devise strategies. Our name comes from none other than the Notorious Ruth Bader Ginsburg and the jabot (decorative collar) she wears when delivering dissents from the bench. It's a reminder that --even when we aren't winning, we're still a powerful force to be reckoned with.

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