
The Johnson Amendment: A Conversation with Rev. Jen Butler and Doug Pagitt
Shane talks with Rev. Jen Butler and Pastor Doug Pagitt about the new Executive Order of Donald Trump loosening restrictions on faith-based nonprofits when it comes to political endorsements and funding. The US has prided itself on the "separation of Church and State," but this could be a historic shift in what that looks like.
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• Books: Link
• @revjenbutler
Connect with Doug Pagitt
• Doug's site: Doug Pagitt - Author, Activist, Pastor
• Vote For Common Good: Vote Common Good
• @dougpagitt
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Information
- Show
- FrequencyUpdated Weekly
- PublishedOctober 16, 2025 at 1:32 PM UTC
- Length47 min
- Episode256
- RatingClean