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The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR The Modern People Leader
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Listen to interviews with CHROs, Chief People Officers, and other work experts on how they're pioneering the way that we work. They share what's working, what's not, and how they've gotten to where they're at in their careers.
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191 - Exos & Adam Grant's Team Explore the Four-Day Workweek: Greg Hill (Chief People Officer, Exos)
Greg Hill, Chief People Officer at Exos, joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We discussed Exos' Readiness Culture Code, how they measured the success of their four-day workweek experiment, and the difference between productivity and effectiveness.
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This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work®. Learn more at http://greatplacetowork.com/mpl.
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(7:32) From Upstate New York to Chief People Officer at Exos
(11:44) The Readiness Culture Code Explained
(16:13) Flexibility and Recovery: The Four-Day Work Week
(24:45) Discussing CEO Meetings and Competitive Talent Challenges
(25:01) Tech Industry Challenges Post-COVID
(25:41) Discussion with Nick Bloom on the Four-Day Work Week
(27:24) Sales Performance and Net Promoter Scores (NPS) During the Pilot
(29:13) Positive Outcomes of the Pilot
(32:05) Tailoring Hybrid Work Solutions to Different Organizations
(34:03) Tie-Ins with Return-to-Office or Hybrid Programs
(36:19) Advice for Smaller Companies and Designing Structured Experiments
(43:17) Future Study on Quiet Quitting
(45:00) Measuring Performance and Productivity
(47:24) Talent Management in a Changing World
(51:36) Regional Directors and Cultural Norms
(52:26) Accountability at the Peer Level
(53:15) High-Performance Culture and Its Articulation
(56:00) Output Expectations Across Teams
(57:04) Generative AI: Enhancing vs. Replacing Human Input
(1:01:02) Call to Action for HR Leaders
(1:03:07) Personal Engagement in Workplace Transformation
(1:05:01) Magic Wand Fix for HR Problems
(1:06:33) Guest Recommendation: Todd McCarty
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190 - Melanie Naranjo (VP, People, Ethena) & Vanesa Cotlar (VP, People & Culture, PolicyMe) on Performance Management
Vanesa Cotlar (VP, People & Culture, PolicyMe) and Melanie Naranjo (VP, People, Ethena) joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We discussed the three questions every manager should be asking themselves about their direct reports, why setting expectations with new hires can go a long way in improving performance, and how to create a common language for employees around performance.
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This episode was brought to you by Great Place To Work®. Learn more at greatplacetowork.com/mpl.
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(1:29) Good news stories
(8:43) What’s new with Vanesa and Melanie
(12:55) Why performance management is a hot topic right now
(19:43) The 3 questions Ethena managers ask themselves about direct reports
(21:40) Expectation setting with new hires during the first 90 days
(31:47) Handling performance conversations
(36:18) Create a common language for employees around performance
(39:30) The percentage of managers effectively managing performance
(45:39) What happens when your current team isn’t the right team to get you to the next level
(51:18) Great Place To Work’s research on RTO mandates
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189 - Tinkering versus true transformation: Larry McAlister, (Head of Digital Transformation, Nutanix)
Larry McAlister, Head of Digital Transformation at Nutanix, joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We discussed what transformation looks like, the importance of defining it for your organization, and the difference between mere tinkering and true transformation.
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(1:22) Good news stories
(4:03) Great Place To Work’s research on RTO mandates
(5:41) Going from CHRO roles to the Head of Digital Transformation
(9:02) What he does as a Head of Digital Transformation
(10:20) What Nutanix does
(10:59) Why we should be jealous he gets to work at Nutanix
(13:45) What is transformation?
(16:04) You need an enablement strategy for new HR tech
(18:00) Get very specific about what transformation means to your company
(20:00) Tinkering versus transformation
(23:07) Tell people the truth about the change that’s coming
(27:20) Generative AI & Microsoft Co-Pilot
(38:55) The only reason there's still humans in Talent Acquisition
(42:50) Why he wrote The Power to Transform
(45:13) You are a technologist
(46:56) Rapid fire questions
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188 - “Future of HR + Modern People Leader” with JP Elliott, Stephen Huerta, & Daniel Huerta
What happens when you combine two of the best HR podcasts?
You are about to find out as the Modern People Leader podcast and the Future of HR podcast have come together for a special episode to share their insights from over 270 interviews.
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We interviewed JP on The Modern People Leader:
(1:08) Good news stories
(3:25) Curious whether you’re a Great Place to Work?
(4:53) JP’s story
(9:03) JP’s biggest surprise since starting a podcast
(11:30) Elevating the next generation of HR
(13:50) What a next generation HR leader looks like
(16:13) The limiting beliefs holding HR leaders back
(18:02) The guests JP has learned the most from
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JP interviewed us on The Future of HR:
(22:00) What inspired us to start The Modern People Leader
(29:55) What it means to be a Modern People Leader
(35:58) What it’s like to be a Chief People Officer at a startup versus a Fortune 500 company
(41:24) What we would put in an HR time capsule to be opened in 2050.
(43:50) Team performance reviews
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Connecting with Future of HR:
Connect with JP Elliott on LinkedIn.
Visit the Future of HR website.
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187 - WFH data & the 4-day workweek: Nick Bloom (Stanford Economist & Co-Founder of wfhresearch.com)
Nick Bloom, Stanford Economist & Co-Founder of wfhresearch.com, joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We talked about the state of WFH, managing in a hybrid environment, the four versions of the 4-day workweek, and what’s coming next for Nick.
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This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work®. Download their latest research on Return-to-Office Mandates here.
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(1:13) Good news stories
(3:47) Great Place To Work’s research on RTO mandates
(5:05) Nick’s story
(7:24) HR is now the center of action
(10:15) Work from home data points
(16:48) The benefits of being in office
(21:04) Is it career limiting to be fully remote when the rest of your team is hybrid?
(24:24) Managing in a hybrid environment
(29:03) The four versions of the 4-day workweek
(31:24) How far away are we from the magic version of the 4-day workweek?
(39:30) Nick’s predictions for the next 10-15 years
(44:40) The weird and wonderful things Nick is researching next
(48:16) Rapid fire questions
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186 - Hebba Youssef (Founder & creator of I Hate it Here & Chief People Officer at Workweek)
Hebba Youssef, Founder & Creator of I Hate it Here & Chief People Officer at Workweek, joined us on The Modern People Leader.
We talked about the work they're doing to elevate their managers to the next level, why the CEO and Chief People Officer dynamic is challenging, and whether there has been scope creep for the CPO role.
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This episode was brought to you by Great Place to Work®. Download their latest research on Return-to-Office Mandates here.
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2:36 Good news stories
10:26 Your thirties
14:04 Hebba’s story
21:49 Balancing Dual Roles: CPO and Content Creator
25:42 What Hebba dislikes most about being a creator
27:30 Maturing as a company is painful
31:09 Getting managers to the next level
33:14 Friday manager trainings at Workweek
39:20 Changing the mindset of leaders to want to change
45:45 Why the CEO and Chief People Officer dynamic is difficult
48:53 Your CEO needs a professional coach and a therapist
54:24 Is the scope of the CPO role getting too big?
57:56 The piece of HR that Hebba would give away
59:11 Rapid fire questions
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I stumbled upon a MPL podcast episode recently and was impressed at how down to earth and practical the conversations are. The topics and insights are so timely and relevant (even as I listen to episodes from a year ago), and have helped me gain more insights into what it’s like to serve in a high-level people leader role. This helps me to explore whether or not I want to move in that direction in the future, and also to be more strategic in my current work with a deeper understanding of how VPs of people prioritize.
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