The Next System Podcast is a regular series that examines the systemic challenges facing society today and the bold, systemic solutions that can build the society of tomorrow. Learn more about the Next System Project at www.thenextsystem.org.
Earth Day at 50
For a new generation of climate activists, the 50th anniversary of Earth Day is not a day of celebration but a day of mobilization combined with a sober critique of why the ideals of the first Earth Day are still so far from being realized.
Direct action, moms, and a housing crisis
Dominique Walker left her hometown of East Oakland for university, only to come back to find it gentrified and her neighbors displaced. This week, she shares the story of how she and Moms 4 Housing, an activist group pushing for American recognition of housing as a human right, took direct action against a real estate speculator and reclaimed its property for the people.
Talking racial trauma, healing and reparations with La June Montgomery Tabron
As a Black woman leading one of the nation's most prominent philanthropic organizations, La June Montgomery Tabron is taking on the challenge of addressing the impact of systemic racism on families and communities. She talks with Rev. Ronnie Galvin Jr., The Democracy Collaborative's vice president for racial equity and the democratic economy, about the work of truth-telling, racial healing and "looking at the systems that need to shift so that families and children can thrive."
The end of employee ownership at New Belgium and why it matters
New Belgium Brewing has been held up as a shining example of what could be possible through worker ownership. Bu now that it's been purchased by an international conglomerate, there are new questions about the best strategy and models for turning workers into owners. We talk to Jessica Rose, co-founder of the worker ownership advocacy organization Fifty by Fifty, and to two experts in advancing alternative ownership models, Camille Kerr and Jason Wiener.
Why Now Is The Time For a "Job Guarantee Now!"
Today's so-called "full-employment economy" still fails millions. We talk to Policy Link's Sarah Treuhaft and Darrick Hamilton of the Kirwan Center for the Study of Race and Ethnicity about the campaign for a federal jobs guarantee and why now is the time to fight for transformative changes in the job market.
On "The Making of a Democratic Economy" (W/ Ted Howard and Marjorie Kelly)
This week, we sit down with Marjorie Kelly and Ted Howard, co-authors of "The Making of a Democratic Economy". In it, they tell the stories of people that–from Portland to Preston–are already working to establish a just, sustainable, and accountable economy. You can purchase their book online at ademocraticeconomy.org, where you can find an independent bookstore in your area.
Full transcripts of all our episodes are available at www.thenextsystem.org/podcast.
Much needed discussion
The Next System podcast brings a variety of progressive ideas for system change to one place. In too many cases, progressives prioritize a particular idea or movement or change over all others, leaving the left divided over which injustice must be corrected first, never uniting on a platform of ideas. This podcast presents many ideas, and, just as importantly, often discusses correlations between ideas - how systems interact currently, and how solutions must interact to affect change.
I read a poor review of the podcast that pointed out a lack of diversity in guests, as well as how many of the guests work within the current system or are proposing changes that work within the current system. I would refute both charges. The podcast is still in its early stages, and I’ve listened to every episode over the past two weeks - diversity in every sense is not an issue. As far as working within the current system goes, these proposals aren’t the kind of incrementalism typical of timid liberals as the review seemed to suggest. Single payer healthcare seemed like a radical, politically impossible pipe dream just a couple of years ago, but is now gaining wide recognition on the left as the only true solution to the healthcare system - yet you could say that working to change congress people’s minds about that issue, or working to vote people into office who support that idea, is just incrementalists working within the current system. Well, perhaps unfortunately, everything’s not going to change for the best all at once, so a podcast like this that seeks to flesh out seemingly radical ideas, and make it obvious that they are morally responsible, fiscally responsible, and will actually generate hugely positive impacts in society is, in my opinion, refreshing and necessary. To that reviewer: don’t eat your own.
To the Next System team: thank you so much for what you do. It’s truly inspiring. I will echo another reviewer with my one critique - fade out the intro music much faster, it’s hard to hear the beginning because it stays loud too long and you’re fairly soft spoken.
So glad you interviewed the Rev. Coates - he is a visionary.
(As an aside - you need to duck out the intro music when you are introducing the guest)
I have been really frustrated with the Next Systems Project and this podcast especially. They seem to interview a lot of non-profit leaders and orgs that are themselves reliant on the current, capitalist system and foundation money. Where are the interviews with Cooperation Jackson, 3rd party leaders, folks who are really interested in changing the system.
Please begin to balance your work with folks who have a little more edge to their work. Also, why are more than half the interviews with white folks? There is a real black left in this country that deserves recognition for starting this conversation about changing the system long before TNSP.