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Tired of liberals and conservatives screaming partisan talking points? We were, and so we created The Politics Guys as a sane and civil alternative. Each week, a liberal and a conservative talk *to*, not at each other, in an attempt to better understand the week in politics & policy. We're not about scoring cheap partisan points or preaching to the ideological choir. We reject the notion that people who see the world differently are either stupid or evil. Our mission is to promote a shared, evidence-based understanding of American politics and policy. We hope you'll join us.

The Politics Guys The Politics Guys

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Tired of liberals and conservatives screaming partisan talking points? We were, and so we created The Politics Guys as a sane and civil alternative. Each week, a liberal and a conservative talk *to*, not at each other, in an attempt to better understand the week in politics & policy. We're not about scoring cheap partisan points or preaching to the ideological choir. We reject the notion that people who see the world differently are either stupid or evil. Our mission is to promote a shared, evidence-based understanding of American politics and policy. We hope you'll join us.

    FBI Trump Raid, Good(ish) Inflation News, Protecting Veterans

    FBI Trump Raid, Good(ish) Inflation News, Protecting Veterans

    Mike & Jay devote the bulk of the episode to an in-depth – and at times heated – discussion of the FBI’s execution of a search warrant on Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago home and office. They discuss the wisdom of seizing files in Trump’s possession, whether or not the Department of Justice exhausted all other means before taking such an unprecedented step, how Attorney General Garland has handled the raid and political fallout, and what they think the consequences of the seizure may be.
    Next, they look at the latest inflation numbers, which are an improvement from the last few months. This has Mike feeling at least somewhat optimistic, but as Jay cautions, there are still major issues with inflation and it may be too soon for anyone to start celebrating.
    After that they discuss the PACT Act, which makes it easier for veterans who may have suffered ill effects from toxic burn pits to get VA medical care. Both Mike and Jay think it’s good legislation, with Mike having a personal interest, having been exposed to toxic burn pits while serving with the Marines in Saudi Arabia.
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    • 1 hr 10 min
    Introducing The NewsWorthy

    Introducing The NewsWorthy

    Mike talks about The NewsWorthy. Hope you enjoy it too.

    • 2 min
    Kansas Abortion Vote, Midterm Primaries, Codifying Roe, Finland and Sweden in NATO, Pelosi’s Taiwan Visit

    Kansas Abortion Vote, Midterm Primaries, Codifying Roe, Finland and Sweden in NATO, Pelosi’s Taiwan Visit

    After discussing Ken’s need for a title like Jay’s, Trey and Ken tackle the recent upset vote in Kansas on the “Value Them Both” ballot initiative. Ken thinks this means that the Democrats will hold or gain seats in the Senate. Trey isn’t sure that it changes the midterm outcomes, but he does see important cleavages inside the Republican Party. Trey argues that it is easier, and more viable electorally, to take positions than to govern.
    Next they talk more broadly about the primary races across the country. One big question is how well Trump supports did, such as in Arizona. Ken, again, sees this as bolstering Democrats in the midterm. Trey, pointing to the most recent polling data, cautions that given that President Biden is being outpolled by former President Trump. They discuss the meaning of the data and how it applies in Pennsylvania.
    After that the pair discuss the Senates attempt to codify Roe. The question is: how many votes should the Senate take on various measures to get themselves and the Republicans on the record. Ken argues that they should and they should do so repeatedly in order to maximize their advantage on the social issue.
    Then it is a brief discussion of the Senates vote to include Finland and Sweden in NATO. They also discuss Josh Hawley’s lone dissenting vote and what, if anything, it means.
    They close with a discussion of Pelosi’s trip to Taiwan. While they are both in agreement over the value of the trip, they disagree over what they see as the tactic by Biden to isolate the trip. Trey sees it as Biden playing into a view of being weak, while Ken thinks it is strategically smart not to attach the one China policy head on right now.
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    • 1 hr 2 min
    Legislative Bonanza, Monkeypox Response

    Legislative Bonanza, Monkeypox Response

    After opening with an update on the Brittney Greiner situation, Mike and Jay discuss the big week of legislative activity. They start by discussing the “Inflation Reduction Act of 2022”, aka “Baby Build Back Better” (Mike’s hoping that name sticks, though don’t hold your breath). Mike is a big fan, while Jay isn’t nearly as comfortable as Mike (or Joe Manchin) with the tax hikes that not only pay for the climate spending but make it a significant money raiser for the government.
    Then they move into the CHIPs Act, the rare major legislation that has attracted bipartisan support. Mike and Jay are on board too, though Mike would like to see it bigger to better compete with China, Taiwan, and South Korea, whereas Jay would have been more comfortable with a pared-down version of the bill.
    After that they discuss another bipartisan measure – the Respect for Marriage Act, which recently passed the House with 47 Republican votes. Mike thinks it’s a good idea given his view of the precariousness of the constitutional protection for same-sex marriage. Jay doesn’t think that any state will be willing to run the risk of instituting a same-sex marriage ban, and so sees the legislation as addressing a problem that’s not likely to exist.
    They close with a discussion of Monkeypox. Mike argues that it’s yet another public health failing, and that not enough is being done to contain the spread. Jay is more concerned with government overreach and believes that existing funding can be repurposed to deal with this outbreak.
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    • 1 hr 17 min
    Bryan Caplan on Evil Politicians

    Bryan Caplan on Evil Politicians

    Mike talks with Bryan Caplan, Professor of Economics at George Mason University and blogger at Bet on It. He's the author of multiple books, including four that we’ve previously discussed on the show: The Myth of the Rational Voter, The Case Against Education, Open Borders, and Labor Econ vs The World: Essays on the World's Greatest Market. On this episode, Mike and Bryan talk about his most recent book, How Evil Are Politicians?: Essays on Demagoguery.
    Topics Mike & Brian Discuss Include:
    The meaning of evil – is it more than just self-interest?Bryan’s contention that the vast majority of politicians are, in fact, evilWhy we should hold politicians to a higher standardThe almost utter lack of “moral due diligence” on the part of politiciansIf people don’t know or just don’t care about evil politiciansDemagoguery as the politics of social desirabilityLiberal vs Conservative forms of evilThe extent to which evil politicians are a result of a bad systemThe pragmatic case for pacifismIf any US hostilities since WWII were justifiedWhat, if anything, we can do about evil politicians
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    • 1 hr 11 min
    Secret Service Text Messages, A Good Guy With A Gun, The Sound of Screaming Has Been Removed, Police Shooting, Members of Congress Arrested

    Secret Service Text Messages, A Good Guy With A Gun, The Sound of Screaming Has Been Removed, Police Shooting, Members of Congress Arrested

    Trey & Ken kick off the show with a look at the missing secret service text messages. They discuss the ongoing legal ramifications and the likely reasons why they disappeared. They then turn to the other issues which came out of the final Jan 6 Committee hearing.
    Next, they turn to all the guns. More specifically they discuss the juxtaposition of the Indiana good guy’s action compared to the Uvalde police. Trey argues this highlights a point he agrees with the left on: the problematic nature of the police in the United States and this explains why weapons, in part, are more prevalent in the U.S. Ken agrees with some of the issues of the police, but disagrees on the need for weapons.
    After that they look at two separate instances of police and correction officers shooting African Americans and the aftermath of those cases. This continues the disagreement between the hosts, with Trey saying that this explains the uptick in gun ownership by African Americans.
    The pair close the show discussing the seventeen members of Congress who were arrested for protesting the Supreme Court over abortion rights and the possible ways that may effect the midterm election.
    Recommendations
    Trey: Shots in the Dark
    Ken: Can You Forgive Her? 
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    • 40 min

Customer Reviews

4.5 out of 5
704 Ratings

704 Ratings

Holdem Harley ,

Great Pod Cast

I love hearing both sides. I consider my self a middle of the road kinda gal. And I really hope we can move away from this division of extreme left and right. Favorite episode so far 2/20/21. Great back and forth guys. 👍🏼

pod account ,

Ok pod cast

I have been listening for a couple years now, I got frustrated when they let a conservative female host get “canceled” off the show. They let the Supreme Court be called corrupt and political without any pushback. I feel the show has gradually gone down hill over the time I have listened. It seems now to be more “I’m going to state my side and you state yours, then we move on”. I will say they are polite to each other.

GabrielaMaria ,

Roso

Full disclosure I’m a center left middle aged woman who’s been listening to the Politics Guys for years. I won’t discuss the lack of a female voice on the podcast because that is something I’ve accepted. I’ve always found Jay challenging to listen to but I wanted to remain open to “the other side”. But I just can’t listen anymore. Jay is so partisan and Micheal is so willing to overlook blatantly partisan arguments for the sake of consensus that I find myself gritting my teeth in total frustration. I admire the mission of the Politics Guys, wish they would live up to it.

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