The Pro Organizer Studio Podcast Jen Kilbourne + Melissa Klug

Cabri Carpenter (Minimize Then Organize in Lubbock, TX) and Melissa are breaking it down today with a little tough love...about how you are overcomplicating your professional organizing business. Sometimes being efficient means we actually end up with TOO many processes, procedures, and rules--which might be costing you time and money. 

What does it mean to be an organizing entrepreneur, and what does it mean to have an organizing business and what makes you successful?  Jen and Melissa are dishing about what it takes to be an entrepreneur in our industry.
What is entrepreneurial spirit for an organizer? What you will hear I hope will reassure you about what it takes because I've said on many occasions, I never envisioned myself being an entrepreneur, ever. And now I am happier than I have ever imagined being in a career. And that's why I spend all day, every day making sure other women can get into this industry and be happy!
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We got an email the other day from someone who was asking, essentially, what's the perfect time to start my business? She gave me a couple of details about what she has going on in her life driving the question...trying to figure out when she should begin.
But I thought about that email and I was like, you know what? We have something. Jen and I had a conversation about this one time, and I found it and knew it was the perfect thing to share. But--it's not JUST about starting a business.
The thing about this conversation is Jen has so many things that she says that I realize it's not just about whether it's time to start a business. It's really about what's the right time to start doing anything different.
Whether it is starting your organizing business, whether it is starting a team and your organizing business, whether it is time to pivot into  something, no matter what it is, whatever you're trying to decide about, if you're reaching some sort of a crossroads in your organizing business.
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In honor of enrollment for our course about everything under the sun about working with clients, Organizing Essentials, we are bringing you a podcast today where Jen and Melissa talk about all sorts of things relating to working with clients. From organizing closets to whether we feel pressure to keep our houses perfect, we're ready to talk about it all! 
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Can an organizer survive and even thrive without any social media? Amber Ehrlich of The Tidy Bungalow in Phoenix, Arizona is here to talk about her experiment in saying goodbye to Facebook and Instagram. 
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A little taste of the show:
Melissa Klug: absolutely. Well, so one of the things that's really important, and something that you said is you have been doing this business full-time since you started, that's over five years ago. And so you're pretty experienced, but you and I also were very fortunate that we were able to build our have them be true full-time businesses pretty quickly.
And so the way we did that was by using social media, right? That's how we solely built our businesses. 
Amber Ehrlich: No, I, I've had a client, I know a client has verified who I am on Instagram like four years ago, but I've never, no, I did. I got one client, I got one client that did one session from Instagram. Okay. Once 
Melissa Klug: congratulations.
Well, all joking aside, what we want to talk about today is Amber undertook are we gonna call it an, I don't know if we call it an experiment or just a lifestyle change? It was an experiment. Yeah. Okay. So what I wanna talk to Amber about is, she and I have been aligned from the very beginning that social media is just a tool that you use in your business, and it is way down the list, like at the bottom of the list of what we did to grow our businesses or to get clients. 
Right. But what I want to talk to you about today is you just very boldly over a year ago, undertook an experiment and I wanna hear all about it. 
Amber Ehrlich: Okay. So, social media causes me like a lot of performance anxiety and comparative anxiety.
And as a recovery perfectionist, that's really the last thing that I need. Doom scrolling. Definitely. A thing and, well, I'm definitely, you know, was the person that was the top of my game and had confidence. I just, whenever I'd scroll through, I would just get angry. And I think one of the reasons I would get angry, You see what you see online, but then you know the real story behind things and that kind of drives me nuts.
And I just, I was over it. I was also over computers in general. Actually, today I had to reinstall Zoom because apparently I haven't been on a Zoom since I bought a new computer. Fascinating. I love that. So, yeah, it was the end of November, 2021 and I was just like, I hadn't posted on Instagram for six months, not like I did much before.
Hadn't shared anything on Facebook for quite a long time, and I just made a post. I was like, so we're coming down to the end of 2021 and I'm just gonna not do any social media whatsoever in 2022. So I was like, you can find me in real life. Here's my phone number, here's my email address, here's my website.
And I said, I'm gonna go all of 2022 with no social media and. Maybe I'll return and maybe I won't. And of course it was weird at first but oh my goodness, by the end of 2022, like no need, no 
Melissa Klug: need whatsoever to return. So you, you not only didn't post, you didn't go on at all, is that correct?
Amber Ehrlich: I didn't go on, no. I, before I quit everything, I did go into all the Facebook settings and I downloaded every single picture that I had ever had. And then I did try to go on mid 2021 to completely deactivate and delete everything. Okay. But since after you are inactive for so long, you can't even get back on.
I don't even know how to verify. I am who I am. So it exists out there. People can find me with my last message ever, but, yeah. I don't even know how to get on at 
Melissa Klug: this point. Now you were never a huge Instagram person. , you weren't on it all the time anyway. But when you first

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A LITTLE TASTE OF THE EPISODE: 

One of the things that I am committed to doing here is trying to break down some of these things that suddenly seem to be everywhere or things that have been around a while, but you might not actually know what they do, or more importantly, why you might need them in your business. And I want you to be able to say, yeah, I've heard of that, and like, Not have it be a lie. “Oh yeah, I definitely know what that is.” 
So today's version of what the heck is this thing is going to be something that is the hottest new thing around everyone is talking about it, it is all over the news, 
and it's something that can really. I think super overwhelming. Super techy. And I know that some people really don't love tech or they think they're not techy and, and tech things might overwhelm them or start to feel very scary. But this thing that we're gonna be talking about today has huge opportunities for organizers, and I want to talk about it.
If you have heard people talking about ChatGPT there are reels, there are tos, there are news stories. It's like a really, really huge thing. If you've heard about ChatGPT, but you're like, I have no idea what it is, that's what we're gonna talk about today. We're actually gonna talk about a bigger subject, but ChatGPT, is this new technology and it has experienced insane growth.
So I'm a business data nerd. Okay, so just go with me for a second. , it took Instagram two and a half years after it started to get to a hundred million users on their platform, it took ChatGPT two months to get to that same level. So this is something that came out and just absolutely exploded. 
And you may have heard about it, but you might be sitting here going like, I've definitely heard of it, but I have no idea what it is. By the way, total side note that you didn't ask for it. This is how I feel. Anytime you read an article about Bitcoin, I have tried really hard to understand Bitcoin.
I don't understand it. I'm never going to understand it. I refuse to understand it. So it might just be that ChatGPT, is your version of Bitcoin, right? Where you just go like, yep, I've heard of it, but I have no idea what it is. ChatGPT  is just one of many different options that you have for starting into the world of AI.
And the other day, someone posted in our coaching group for Inspired Organizer members and they were like, oh my gosh, have you guys tried the Canva tool using AI? And someone responded, what is AI? That is a very common response. It's actually why I'm doing this podcast today. AI stands for artificial intelligence, and in its very simplest form, what AI is, is using computer learning to generate something that would've normally been generated by you and your brain.
 And because computers can work infinitely faster than we can, our brains are amazing, but they can only process at a certain speed. And because computers. A ton of information and put it together and synthesize it in milliseconds. It can basically generate a lot of data and content and information in a very short period of time.
 While ChatGPT is getting the most attention recently for how it brought AI kind of into the publi