The Reader and the Writer

Shari Dragovich and Rhea Forney
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Our lives, from their beginnings, are storied, and find their fullness when nestled securely within the Great Story; the one that opens, “In the Beginning…” Here on The Reader and the Writer, we delight in and give witness to that Great Story by reading and discussing those excellent works of literature written since. thereaderandthewriter.substack.com

  1. 1d ago

    The History of the Island | Part 3

    Welcome back to A History of the Island! In this episode, Shari and Rhea discuss the growing cast of characters in the story, and how the French film-makers seem to be playing a larger role in the story; Parfeny’s and Ksenia’s story, in particular. They ask questions about history and reality, who’s telling the story, and who gets to decide? They revisit again the question of the medieval v. the modern ways of looking at history. They talk about the island’s story as an allegory and the ways the Island’s history maps on to any number of countries, to include our (the United States) own. They consider A History of the Island as an allegory, and particularly as a work of satire. And, they talk about bees. Don’t forget to look through Rhea’s reading guide page for A History of the Island: Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you liked it, please ❤️ it and share it with your history-loving friends. The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

    The History of the Island | Part 3

  2. Jul 21

    History of the Island | Part 2

    Welcome back to A History of the Island by Eugene Vodolazkin. In this episode, Shari and Rhea discuss the move of the chronicle from the medieval to the modern eras. They talk about what is lost when the comet is no more seen as a dragon, how beauty and mystery are intricately connected, and whether or not they think Vodolazkin is criticizing modernity’s view of how history ought to be chronicled. They talk about the curious change to the title of the book in the English translation, and what all the factors are that go into book titles in general. They discuss the difference between recording history as a recording of “Good v. Evil” and recording it as a simple chain of cause and effect, and where the human is placed (or places himself) in the recording of each one. They talk about the marriage of Parfeny and Ksenia. They consider the play on the word and idea of “progress,” and how with this thread, A History enters into conversation with Hannah Coulter, and Wendell Berry’s body of work in its entirety. Below is a link to Rhea’s reading guide for A History of the Island. Be sure to check out her running list of name meanings. If you want a deep dive into a Tolstoy’s take on history and the ancient v. modern view of how it gets told, you might enjoy my 12-day journey chronicling his long essay on the matter at the end of War & Peace: Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you liked the episode, please show it some ❤️ and pass it on to your history loving friends! The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

    History of the Island | Part 2

  3. Jul 14

    A History of the Island | Part 1

    “The reason for circumstance, says Agafon, is people, not God.” “…long life has convinced me that people themselves create their own circumstances.” —Parfeny (p. 7) Welcome to A History of the Island by Eugene Vodolazkin. In this episode, Rhea and Shari spend a fair amount of time trying to situate themselves in this highly unusual novel where the book itself is also the subject of the story; that is, the chronicle of the Island (that has no name). They talk about wild narrative style of the novel, wonder who the main characters are, and if there even are any (at least, human characters). They talk about the clear satire style of the novel, and the motifs they see so far: time, history, prophesy, and the absurdity of the tales within the chronicle itself. They wonder whether Parfeny and Ksenia will have a story arc on their own. They consider all the clues in the strange “From the Publisher” note to start the tale. They talk about how much this novel seems to be in conversation with Tolstoy’s last 12 chapters of War and Peace. They note how they each can feel all the hints being dropped throughout the novel they know they are stepping all over, before recognizing them to pick up and put the pieces together. And, they both agree that though there is much they don’t yet understand, they are enjoying the wildness of the ride along the way. Look for Rhea’s reading guide for A History of the Island to release soon. She will be sharing a character list to help you keep track of everyone, and add to it as the story moves along. If you liked this episode, you might also appreciate my notes on the final twelve chapters of War & Peace in which Tolstoy writes essays about histories, historians, and the question of fate and free will. The first one is pasted below. You can follow along each day afterwards (I wrote one per day for the first 12 days in January) Thanks for listening to this edition of The Reader & the Writer! If you like this post, please give it some ❤️ and share it with some history loving friends. The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

    A History of the Island | Part 1

  4. Jul 10

    Middlemarch | Book 6

    Welcome to Middlemarch, Book Six. It’s hard to believe there’s only two books left! We’re definitely going to make the most of them. In this episode, Shari and Rhea discuss all the unsaid saying that is happening throughout this section, and all the gossip, too. They talk about how Eliot uses these communication gaffs to her narrative power, to develop and reveal characters, and express themes she’s been developing through the story. They talk about the plight and power of women in Middlemarch—how the various characters wield or are wielded by both—and how thie plight and power leaves them feeling about the various male characters of the novel. They compare relationships, decide what they think of Dorthea’s passivity (is she being passive??) and Rosamond’s horribleness (oh how horrible she is!). They talk about Bulstrode’s dirty little secret and whether or not Will should have taken him up on his offer to “make amends”. They riff on themes and big ideas from Hannah Coulter and how they see these play out in Middlemarch in very different ways. They wonder if Rosamond’s redeemable (I bet you can’t guess what Rhea thinks—ha!). Oh, they even through in a little Flannery O’Connor comparison for fun. We have two episodes of Middlemarch left. Expect these to release on the second Friday of each of the following months: August 14th; and September 11th. Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you liked this episode please show it some ❤️ and share it with a friend. Or enemy, especially if they resemble Rosamond Vincy! The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

    Middlemarch | Book 6

  5. Jul 7

    Hannah Coulter | Part 3

    Welcome to our final episode of Hannah Coulter, by Wendell Berry. In this episode Rhea and Shari explore questions surrounding expectations versus hope, what we owe our children, what the culture tells us we owe our children, and what the price is for leaving the Membership. They talk about “failed love,” eternity happening now, and the experience of “waking up dead.” They talk about the prodigal son, the great room of love, living a “futureless” life, and Hannah’s movement toward living in the ever-present of eternal time. They talk about the end: whether or not Hannah, herself, wakes up on the other side with Nathan. Shari reads a Wendell Berry poem at the end. And, of course, they can’t make it through any of this episode without crying. Thank you for reading Hannah Coulter along with us. It has been a true joy to share it with you. Our next deep read is A History of the Island, by Eugene Vodolazkin. We hope you will join us! Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you liked this post, please hit the ❤️ button and share it with a friend. The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

    Hannah Coulter | Part 3

  6. Jun 30

    Hannah Coulter | Part 2

    But you may have a long journey to travel to meet somebody in the innermost inwardness and sweetness of that room. You can’t get there just by wanting to, or just because the night falls. The meeting is prepared in the long day, in the work of years, in the keeping of faith, in kindness. (p. 110, on the room of love) Welcome back to Hannah Coulter, by Wendell Berry. In this 2nd episode, Rhea and Shari discuss the ways Hannah’s story echoes deeply Genesis 2:15-24: the making of man and woman: “Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and they shall be one flesh.” (v. 24) They discuss grief, membership, a place on earth, work, and love. They discuss how Wendell Berry is insistent that all of these things are intertwined in such a way that one cannot truly flourish without the other. All are needed for a whole life. They talk about the musicality embedded in Hannah’s story; which leads to a lengthy discussion about the power and beauty of music and poetry to express truths and realities not reachable by words alone. They talk about the ways this section is embedded with all Wendell’s theses: on life, on work kindly done, on marriage as “one flesh.” Indeed, it all rises and falls on marriage. Resources Mentioned on podcast: * Jeremy Begbie on music and the arts * Rhea’s Hannah Coulter Reading Guide (scroll down for the bookmarks pdf) * R&W’s Substack page (for full access to essays, links, discussions): If you liked this post check out: Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer. If you liked what you heard, please ❤️ it and share it with others. The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

    Hannah Coulter | Part 2

  7. Jun 23

    Hannah Coulter | Part 1

    “This is my story, my giving of thanks.” —Hannah Coulter (p. 5) Welcome to Hannah Coulter, by Wendell Berry. In this episode, Rhea and Shari discuss the power of Wendell’s work in and for their lives. They talk about his way of seeing every single thing that opens up to us a story that, as Hannah writes in the beginning: weighs upon us, presses against us and fills all our senses to overflowing (paraphrased from p. 5). They discuss the long-view narrative structure (much like Crossing to Safety), memory, and the trinitarian life hidden in plain sight. They talk about Hannah’s beginning that is a continuation of Nathan’s ending, the story that is her story, Nathan’s story, their story together. They talk about the humility of knowing one’s own neediness, the golden threads of love and gratitude, kindness that keeps alive, and her unique way of describing what it is to be “in love.” They talk about the light that shines in darkness and never goes out calling us always back into life (paraphrased from p 57). Of course, they talk about Membership. They do none of this while maintaining dry eyes. Below is our reading schedule: * Chapters 1-7: June 23 * Chapters 8-15: June 30 * Chapters 16-24: July 7 Further Wendell Berry Resources: * The Berry Center * Berry Center Bookstore * Look & See: A Portrait of Wendell Berry The Wendell Berry poem I (Shari) keep on my desk: IX. The incarnate Word is with us,is still speaking, is presentalways, yet leaves no signbut everything that is. (from: This Day: Collected & New Sabbath Poems) Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you enjoyed this post, please give it some ❤️ and share it with others. The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

    Hannah Coulter | Part 1

  8. Jun 16

    Beloved | Part 4

    “The pieces I am, she gather them and give them back to me in all the right order. It’s good, you know, when you got a woman who is a friend of your mind.” —Sixo to Paul D. Only this woman, Sethe could have left him his manhood like that. He wanted to put his story next to hers. Welcome to our final episode of Beloved, by Toni Morrison. In this episode, Shari and Rhea discuss the first images, and any Scripture that came to them when they finished the novel. They discussed axes, fruit, chopping down, our creature limitations and the devastations we aren’t meant to carry. They discuss the four strange chapters at the beginning of this section; the “thoughts of the women of 124, unspeakable thoughts, unspoken.” (235) They read aloud the unspoken conversation and discuss the ways in which, when read this way, it sounds a little like the call and response of a Black Spiritual. They discuss why possession v. love, why the women of the community were the only ones who could exorcise Beloved, and Paul D was the only one who could heal Sethe’s brokenness. Finally, they ask themselves: “What do I say is my best thing? What do I act like is my best thing?” Our next book is Hannah Coulter by Wendell Berry. We will read it over three weeks. Here is the breakdown: * June 23: Chapters 1-7 * June 30: Chapters 8-15 * July 7: Chapters 16-24 Thanks for listening to this episode of The Reader & the Writer! If you liked this episode, please hit the ❤️ button and share it with others. The Reader & the Writer is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support our literary work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Reader & the Writer at thereaderandthewriter.substack.com/subscribe

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Our lives, from their beginnings, are storied, and find their fullness when nestled securely within the Great Story; the one that opens, “In the Beginning…” Here on The Reader and the Writer, we delight in and give witness to that Great Story by reading and discussing those excellent works of literature written since. thereaderandthewriter.substack.com

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    Shari Dragovich and Rhea Forney
  • Years Active
    2022 - 2026
  • Episodes
    152
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