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The Reformed Libertarians Podcast aims to educate and inspire listeners to intelligently embrace and passionately promote a view of libertarianism as grounded in the Reformed Faith, and informed by a Reformed worldview.
Exploring free society from a Reformed perspective, hosts Kerry Baldwin and Gregory Baus discuss culture, society, politics, economics, theology, philosophy, worldview, and more. Follow the show at reformedlibertarians.com and discover how to think about liberty and human flourishing based in the Reformed Faith.
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Bonus: Should Christian Libertarians Reject Biblical Inerrancy?
A reading of Kerry Baldwin’s article on biblical inerrancy, which discusses a blog post by Pete Enns in which he says why he believes the Bible has errors, and no one is obligated to obey Romans 13. Resources for a better (non-biblicist) view of inerrancy and a better view of Romans 13 are recommended. The hosts also give an update about new episodes.
https://reformedlibertarians.com/bonusB
00:00 Start00:09 Update00:49 Intro to Kerry's article01:46 Enns wrong on Romans 1304:42 Enns confuses biblical inerrancy with biblicism07:03 A non-biblicist view of inerrancy08:35 A better view of Romans 1310:00 Covenantal sensitivity11:49 Conclusion
Additional Resources
Does Biblical Inerrancy Threaten Libertarianism? by Kerry Baldwinhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/does-biblical-inerrancy-threaten-libertarianism/
Episode 14 of The Reformed Libertarians Podcast, Does Political Representation Make Sense?, with Gerard Caseyhttps://reformedlibertarians.com/014
Note on the danger of biblicism by Terry Johnson and Shane Lemshttps://reformedreader.wordpress.com/2017/06/22/the-danger-of-biblicism/
Different views of biblical inerrancy by Kam Weng Nghttps://krisispraxis.com/archives/2016/06/inerrancy-of-the-bible-defined-and-defended-part-1/
The Framework Interpretation of Creation Days by Lee Ironshttps://upper-register.com/papers/framework_interpretation.html
The Truthfulness of Scripture by Michael Hortonhttps://www.modernreformation.org/resources/articles/the-truthfulness-of-scripture
The Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancyhttps://www.alliancenet.org/international-council-on-biblical-inerrancy
Well-versed Inerrancy by Kevin Vanhoozerhttps://henrycenter.tiu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/2013April_Vanhoozer-inerrancy.pdf
Video presentation on well-versed inerrancy by Kevin Vanhoozerhttps://vimeo.com/79158043
Can The Bible Contain Errors? by Greg Bealehttps://faculty.wts.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2011-Spring-Inspired.pdf
Audio presentation on inerrancy by Greg Bealehttp://media1.wts.edu/media/audio/gkbeale_lecture_copyright.mp3
Review of Enns' book against inerrancy by Greg Bealehttps://www.etsjets.org/files/JETS-PDFs/49/49-2/JETS_49-2_287-312_Beale.pdf
The Erosion Of Inerrancy by Greg Bealehttps://amazon.com/dp/1433502038
Romans 13: A Reformed View by Gregory Baushttps://libertarianchristians.com/2021/11/24/romans-13-and-stateless-civil-governance-a-reformed-view/
Episode 2 of The Reformed Libertarians Podcast, What Does Romans 13 Say About Civil Government?https://reformedlibertarians.com/002
Episode 42 of The Biblical Anarchy Podcast, Why Isn't the State Biblically Justified? Resolving Romans 13 Objections, with Gregory Baushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBbFFBwMaLQ
Episode 14 of The Biblical Anarchy Podcast, Does The Conquest of Canaan Conflict with Anarchism? with Gregory Baushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KFqcQlPuA
Reformed Libertarians Podcast hosts' appearances elsewherehttps://reformedlibertarians.com/appearances/
Also see a highly-relevant article on a pattern of turning ex-vangelical, especially as among women, by Kerry Baldwinhttps://mereliberty.com/theology/pattern-of-deconstruction-women/
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Special Announcement
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Ep. 15: Can Christian Civil Government Be "Theocratic"?
A discussion of whether a Reformed Christian view of civil governance is compatible with theocracy. We explain how the term "theocratic" has been used, and two key elements of a theocratic view (namely, the monopoly state and civil establishment of religion) that must be rejected in a genuinely Christian view of civil governance. We also touch on how some who support a theocratic view go wrong in their eschatology.
https://reformedlibertarians.com/015/
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00:32 Episode description
01:27 About the history of the term https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences-and-law/political-science-and-government/political-science-terms-and-concepts/theocracy
02:22 All of life, and so all politics, is ultimately guided by central religious commitments
04:45 The objectionable sense of "theocratic" is not entailed by the universality of central religious commitments and their ultimate guidance of all of life
05:28 Two key elements of theocracy are "a monopoly state" and "civil establishment of religion"; Monopoly explained
07:41 Just and unjust uses of coercion; The obligation of non-aggression; The illegitimacy of all states
12:13 A simple analogy
15:12 Establishmentarianism explained https://reformedlibertarians.com/against-civil-establishment-of-religion/
16:46 The unique, symbolic, and temporary (now obsolete) old Mosaic covenant theocracy involved suspension of the common grace order; It was a temporary symbolic-intrusion of final judgment and the kingdom of God, now inaugurated in the new covenant institutional church, and yet to be consummated in the New Heavens and Earth
19:59 While the old covenant was in effect, it was not a violation of non-aggression https://reformedlibertarians.com/002 ; Now, in the new covenant era, the normal operation of the common grace order has resumed; This entails prohibition of establishmentarianism and monopoly, enacting either is antichrist
22:03 Genuinely limited governance, required by God's ultimate sovereignty, according to a consistent Christian view, entails non-monopoly and non-establishment
24:17 Recap
25:10 The under-realization of inaugurated eschatology in the new covenant by postmillennialism and so-called optimism that often accompanies a theocratic view
Additional Resources
More about the temporary suspension of the normal operation of common grace and the eschatological-intrusion within the old covenant theocracy : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3KFqcQlPuA
More about sphere sovereignty : Episode 09 - https://reformedlibertarians.com/009 Episode 12 - https://reformedlibertarians.com/012
More about the underrealization of inaugurated eschatology in the new covenant as held by a postmil view (Gaffin refers to postmil's de-eschatologizing) : https://www.newhopefairfax.org/files/Gaffin%20Theonomy%20and%20Eschatology.pdf
The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com/ and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net
Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com
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Ep. 14: Does Political Representation Make Sense?, with Gerard Casey
An interview with Dr. Gerard Casey about his article "The Indefensibility of Political Representation." Dr. Casey introduces himself and recounts how he became a libertarian anarchist. He speaks about the idea of legitimate command and various options proposed to justify the state's supposed authority. He summarizes some of his examination of political representation from his article. He also talks about what real democracy was like, and closes with a reflection on caring for the poor in a free society.
https://reformedlibertarians.com/014/
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00:32 Episode description Article discussed (25 min read), "The Indefensibility of Political Representation" by Dr. Gerard Casey : https://mises.org/library/indefensibility-political-representation Audio presentation (18 mins) : https://mises.org/library/which-be-master-indefensibility-political-representation
01:51 About Dr. Casey https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_Casey_(philosopher) Academia page: https://ucd.academia.edu/GerardNCasey Interviews by Dr. Casey: https://www.youtube.com/@caseyinconversation6380 Twitter: https://twitter.com/Casey5122dark
05:18 Libertarian conversion The Theory of Money and Credit by Ludwig von Mises : https://mises.org/library/theory-money-and-credit
10:07 Principles of legitimate command
15:11 Options proposed to justify the state The main option in the West today is the idea of "representative" democracy which is equated with self-governance
17:54 Hannah Pitkin's analysis and the basic incoherence of political representation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanna_Fenichel_Pitkin The Concept of Representation by Hanna Pitkin : https://www.amazon.com/dp/0520021568?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
25:44 Inevitable bureaucratic obstacles BBC2's "Yes Minister" : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_Minister
29:46 Actual democracy and sortition Against Elections by David Van Reybrouck : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1847924220?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 Jury Nullification: https://fija.org
37:24 Let The Poor Starve? https://reformedlibertarians.com/let-the-poor-starve-gerard-casey/ How Govt "Solved" The Healthcare Crisis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFoXyFmmGBQ&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu95jfsFdfN2oe8vXQ6Cma-h&index=7
Books by Dr. Gerard Casey: (2012) Libertarian Anarchy : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1441144676?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 (2013) Murray Rothbard : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1441100792?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 (2017) Freedom's Progress? - a history of political thought : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1845409426?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 (2019) ZAP - free speech and tolerance in light of the Zero Aggression Principle : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1788360176?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 (2020) After #MeToo : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1788360273?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 (2021) Hidden Agender : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1788360583?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
Also see Episode 7: Can Libertarians Be Conservatives? : https://reformedlibertarians.com/007
The Reformed Libertarians Podcast is a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute: https://libertarianchristians.com/ and a member of the Christians for Liberty Network: https://christiansforliberty.net
Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com
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Ep. 13: What Do We Mean By "Scripture Alone"?
A reading of the essay "What Do We Mean By Sola Scriptura?" by W. Robert Godfrey, which focuses on explaining some key features of the Protestant principle or doctrine of Sola Scriptura (that is, Scripture Alone). Godfrey defines the principle, discusses several Bible passages that teach it, and answers 4 basic objections.
https://reformedlibertarians.com/013/
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00:32 Episode description Article read: https://reformedlibertarians.com/mean-by-sola-scriptura-robert-godfrey/ It appears as the first chapter in the book Sola Scriptura : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1567693334?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
02:07 Introduction Sola Scriptura is one of the two main issues that separates Protestants from non-Protestants, along with Sola Fide (that is, justification by faith alone). Book mentioned Justification By Faith ALONE : https://www.amazon.com/dp/187761193X?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
04:30 Definition and some passages that teach it "Scripture alone is our ultimate religious authority [ie, infallible rule]... [and] all things necessary for salvation, concerning faith and life, are taught in the Bible clearly enough for the ordinary believer to find it there and understand."
For a more elaborate statement see the Westminster Confession of Faith chapter 1 : https://opc.org/wcf.html#Chapter_01 20.2 : https://opc.org/wcf.html#Chapter_20 21.1 : https://opc.org/wcf.html#Chapter_21 and 31.2-3 : https://opc.org/wcf.html#Chapter_31
14:44 The sufficiency of the Bible as God's Word
15:37 Different senses of the term "tradition"
19:16 Tradition vs. the Bible
21:43 Tradition vs. Tradition
24:44 Recognition of the "canon", or the specific writings that constitute the Bible Book mentioned The Structure of Biblical Authority by Meredith G. Kline : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1579100694?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
33:03 Unity in the interpretation of the Bible
Additional Resources
WSCal Office Hours podcast, with Bob Godfrey on Sola Scriptura (26 minutes) https://wscal.edu/resource-center/whats-in-a-name-sola-scriptura
Why God Gave Us A Book, booklet by Gene Edward Veith : https://www.amazon.com/dp/159638378X?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
What Is The Bible?, booklet by Guy Prentiss Waters : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1596387114?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
Scripture Alone: The Evangelical Doctrine, by R.C. Sproul : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1596389540?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
Zondervan 5 Solas Series : https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KG9V455?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
Zaspel's summaries of 5 Zondervan books included in this course on the Five Solas from the Gospel Coalition : https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/course/the-five-solas/
The Cambridge Declaration : https://www.alliancenet.org/cambridge-declaration
More resources on the Five Solas : https://www.monergism.com/search?keywords=five%20solas
Just And Sinner Podcast with Jordan Cooper discussing Martin Chemnitz on Sola Scriptura and Tradition Part 1 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kisWf3I528U Part 2 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxN4WxFOhYg Part 3 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7s6TVAKQNk
On the canon, also see Redemptive History and the New Testament Scriptures, by Herman Ridderbos : https://www.amazon.com/dp/0875524168?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 Canon Revisited, by Michael J. Kruger : https://www.amazon.com/dp/1433505002?tag=kerrybaldwin-20 The Question of Canon, by Michael J. Kruger : https://www.amazon.com/dp/0830840311?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
See also several videos from Truth Unites with Gavin Ortlund Sola Scriptura Defended : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlF57ewhXAI Response To Critics Of Sola Scriptura : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdIYoXQGYmw Augustine Affirmed Sola Scriptura : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6ZAa0gNMvE More On Augustine And Sola Scriptura : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbTPHSv5Rtc Review of Sola Scriptura Debate : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-O18bhDPGc
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Ep. 12: Is Civil Governance Without The State Plausible?
A discussion of the main points of Kerry Baldwin’s article on the plausibility of stateless civil governance and the common difficulty in imagining such a society. We talk about factors that may contribute to the failure of imagination such as the mere-exposure effect, the Overton window, and plausibility structures. Also mentioned are several examples of historically existing non-monopolistic civil governance. Spontaneous order is explained in terms of a consistent sphere sovereignty, and we provide resources on how civil governance can be practically and realistically provided without the state.
https://reformedlibertarians.com/012/
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00:32 Episode description Article discussed https://libertarianchristians.com/2018/05/07/plausibility-of-a-stateless-society/
01:18 Previous episodes in series 1. Law and order, and the question of legitimacy https://reformedlibertarians.com/003 2. Human sinfulness, and the question of necessity https://reformedlibertarians.com/005 3. Economics and social hierarchy, and the question of inevitability https://reformedlibertarians.com/009
01:57 Main points of article on failure of imagination, and the question of the plausibility of stateless (non-monopolistic) civil governance
03:10 Reasons for difficulty in imagining non-monopolistic civil governance Bias towards the familiar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mere-exposure_effect
05:21 The Overton window The range of thinkable ideas in a society https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
08:58 Plausibility structures Social realities that reinforce or help a belief seem true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausibility_structure
10:14 What about the roads? https://mises.org/wire/government-road-management-there-better-way
10:42 Historical examples of non-monopolistic civil governance Previously mentioned: Ancient Ireland: https://mises.org/library/private-law-emerald-isle Law Merchant: https://fee.org/articles/the-law-merchant-and-international-trade/ Not-so-wild West: https://mises.org/library/not-so-wild-wild-west
Other examples: Quaker Pennsylvania https://mises.org/library/pennsylvanias-anarchist-experiment-1681-1690 Medieval Iceland https://mises.org/library/medieval-iceland-and-absence-government Zomia (south Asian highlands) text: https://mises.org/library/art-not-being-governed audio: https://mises.org/library/james-c-scott-art-not-being-governed [ index for The Libertarian Tradition podcast: https://mises.org/library/libertarian-tradition?page=2 ]
13:01 Division of labor makes stateless society more plausible https://mises.org/wire/division-labor-clarified
13:46 Somalia is better-off without a state https://mises.org/library/rule-law-without-state
14:58 recap on Sphere Sovereignty https://www.academia.edu/32356017/Dooyeweerds_Societal_Sphere_Sovereignty_2017_revision_ Reformed Libertarianism Statement https://reformedlibertarians.com/reformed-libertarianism-statement/
18:55 Polycentric emergent societal order Popular-level article https://fee.org/articles/spontaneous-order/ Video essay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQhkrYqA7S4&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu95jfsFdfN2oe8vXQ6Cma-h&index=9 Bibliographic essay https://oll.libertyfund.org/page/the-tradition-of-spontaneous-order-a-bibliographical-essay-by-norman-barry Example of the price system https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkPGfTEZ_r4
22:31 Practical outlines for how non-monopolist civil governance can be provided Chaos Theory, by Robert Murphy text: https://mises.org/library/chaos-theory-two-essays-market-anarchy-0 audio: https://mises.org/library/chaos-theory-two-essays-market-anarchy-audio
The Machinery of Freedom, by David Freidman video summary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTYkdEU_B4o&list=PLwrDNUO5MDu95jfsFdfN2oe8vXQ6Cma-h&index=11 2nd edition free [pdf]: http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf 3rd edition: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1507785607?tag=kerrybaldwin-20
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