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Go behind the scenes with Bloomberg TV’s Shery Ahn and The Asia Group’s Managing Partner Rexon Ryu in a series of revealing interviews with policymakers, business leaders, journalists, and artists exploring the most dynamic and consequential region in the world.



Shery Ahn is a New York-based anchor for Bloomberg’s market-open programs “Daybreak Asia” and “Daybreak Australia,” which air on Bloomberg Television from 6 to 9pm EST. Rexon Ryu is the Managing Partner of The Asia Group and is the Board Chair of The Asia Group Foundation. He leads the firm’s region-wide practice on defense and national security.

The Tea Leaves Podcast The Asia Group - Rexon Ryu and Bloomberg - Shery Ahn

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Go behind the scenes with Bloomberg TV’s Shery Ahn and The Asia Group’s Managing Partner Rexon Ryu in a series of revealing interviews with policymakers, business leaders, journalists, and artists exploring the most dynamic and consequential region in the world.



Shery Ahn is a New York-based anchor for Bloomberg’s market-open programs “Daybreak Asia” and “Daybreak Australia,” which air on Bloomberg Television from 6 to 9pm EST. Rexon Ryu is the Managing Partner of The Asia Group and is the Board Chair of The Asia Group Foundation. He leads the firm’s region-wide practice on defense and national security.

    Representative Bi-khim Hsiao on Taiwan’s Overseas Engagement and Economic Ties

    Representative Bi-khim Hsiao on Taiwan’s Overseas Engagement and Economic Ties

    Representative Bi-khim Hsiao leads the Taipei Economic and Cultural Representative Office (TECRO) in Washington, DC, serving as Taiwan’s top representative in the United States since July 2020. Before entering her current role, Representative Hsiao was Senior Adviser to Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen at the National Security Council of Taiwan, and previously served four terms in the Taiwan Legislature, where she was ranking member of the Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee. On this episode, Rexon and Representative Hsiao discussed engagement between Washington and Taipei, Taiwan's pandemic response, regional security issues, Taiwan's engagement with Japan, and more.

    • 32 min
    Peter Borup on the Supply Chain Crisis and the Global Shipping Industry

    Peter Borup on the Supply Chain Crisis and the Global Shipping Industry

    Peter Borup is a seasoned shipping executive with nearly three decades of experience across Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. Peter began his career with A.P. Moller Maersk in Copenhagen, and helped to build the company’s businesses in South Korea and China. Most recently, Peter was the CEO of Norvic Shipping International, based in Denmark and the U.A.E. In this episode, we discussed the 2021 global supply chain disruptions, longterm challenges and trends in shipping, and the prospects for the shipping industries of China, India, and other Indo-Pacific economies.

    • 42 min
    John Brennan on U.S. Partnerships and Intelligence in the Indo-Pacific Region

    John Brennan on U.S. Partnerships and Intelligence in the Indo-Pacific Region

    Former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency John Brennan led the CIA from 2013 to 2017, following four years as assistant to President Obama for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism. A key decision-maker on many of the country’s most critical national security matters, Mr. Brennan played a central role in efforts to counter international extremism, U.S. policy in Syria and the fight against ISIS, and the Iran deal. Mr. Brennan served six U.S. presidents, and in 2003 became the founding director of the CIA Terrorist Threat Integration Center. In this episode, John offered insights from his nearly four decades of experience in the CIA, commenting on the Afghanistan withdrawal and its implications for regional security, the role of the Quad and other U.S. partnerships in maintaining a free and open Indo-Pacific region, and the CIA’s response to the unique intelligence challenges posed by China.

    Dr. Michael J. Green on the Quad Summit and Suga’s Successor

    Dr. Michael J. Green on the Quad Summit and Suga’s Successor

    Dr. Michael J. Green is senior vice president for Asia and Japan Chair at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS) and director of Asian Studies at the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University. Previously, Dr. Green served on the National Security Council staff from 2001 through 2005, first as director for Asian affairs, and then as special assistant to the president for national security affairs and senior director for Asia. Today we are lucky to work with Mike at The Asia Group, where he is a senior advisor. In this episode, Mike and Rexon delved into Japanese Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga's resignation, the race for leadership of Japan's ruling Liberal Democratic Party, the AUKUS security pact, and the first in-person Quad Leaders Summit.



    You can find a full video of this episode at www.youtube.com/wSvkY8tzvEq21kNOjYILXQ

    Shweta Rajpal Kohli of Sequoia India on Bridging Innovation and Regulation

    Shweta Rajpal Kohli of Sequoia India on Bridging Innovation and Regulation

    Shweta Rajpal Kohli is Chief Public Policy Officer, Sequoia India and Southeast Asia. She advises the fund’s Indian and Southeast Asian portfolio companies on regulatory risks and engages policymakers on matters related to India’s startup ecosystem. Prior to joining Sequoia, Shweta was the head of public policy for India and South Asia at Uber, and then at Salesforce, following a two-decade career as a leading business journalist and TV news anchor. With 2021 projected to see a record of around USD 20 billion invested in Indian startups, Shweta and Rexon discussed the tremendous opportunities in India’s innovation ecosystem, including in the FinTech, EdTech, and enterprise tech sectors. They also weighed the regulatory challenges surrounding data localization and overseas listing for Indian startups, and Shweta offered advice for CEOs of multinational tech companies as they navigate India’s evolving policy environment.

    • 39 min
    How PichaEats Empowers Kuala Lumpur’s Refugee Community Through Food

    How PichaEats Empowers Kuala Lumpur’s Refugee Community Through Food

    PichaEats is a Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia-based social enterprise in the food industry, focused on supporting the city’s large refugee community. PichaEats partners with refugee chefs to cook and package meals based on the chefs’ personal recipes, and sells and delivers those meals to individuals and catered events across the city. On this episode we spoke with Kim Lim, who alongside co-founders Suzanne Ling and Lee Swee Lin transformed PichaEats from a college service project into a self-sustaining business that has delivered more than 350,000 meals and partnered with 35 refugee chefs. Kim shared moving stories about the displaced individuals with whom PichaEats has partnered, and discussed PichaEats’ growth path and strategic vision, the challenges of running a social enterprise through COVID-19, and the status of refugees in Malaysia. She also shared some juicy details about the biryani, lamb-stuffed eggplant, and chicken mandi that have made PichaEats famous.

    • 28 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
83 Ratings

83 Ratings

narayan_s1 ,

Timely and Insightful

Rexon Ryu and Shery Ahn in the context of their own culture and heartwarming stories weave a stellar analysis of current events in the Indo Pacific sector. The interview with Retired Admiral Harry Harris gives insights of behind the scene events and an analysis of the Quad with probing questions. Looking forward to more episodes and interviews.

Random Gooner ,

Tea Leaves

I really enjoy the new hosts! They each bring a unique perspective to the issues.

GregUmmSuqeim ,

Stellar Analysis

I’ve been an admirer of Kurt Campbell since meeting him as a junior Foreign Service Officer in 1999 in Thailand. I hope some day to meet Ambassador Verma. Together they exemplify the best of American foreign policy thinkers — experienced, insightful, inquisitive and aspirationally objective, by which I mean that while they count among the Democratic Party cognoscenti, their approach almost always transcends partisan bias. Terrific. My thanks to them both, Greg D’Elia

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