50 episodes

Go behind the scenes with Bloomberg TV’s Shery Ahn and The Asia Group’s Managing Partner Rexon Ryu in a series of revealing interviews with policymakers, business leaders, journalists, and artists exploring the most dynamic and consequential region in the world.



Shery Ahn is a New York-based anchor for Bloomberg’s market-open programs “Daybreak Asia” and “Daybreak Australia,” which air on Bloomberg Television from 6 to 9pm EST. Rexon Ryu is the Managing Partner of The Asia Group and is the Board Chair of The Asia Group Foundation. He leads the firm’s region-wide practice on defense and national security.

The Tea Leaves Podcast The Asia Group - Rexon Ryu and Bloomberg - Shery Ahn

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    • 4.9 • 77 Ratings

Go behind the scenes with Bloomberg TV’s Shery Ahn and The Asia Group’s Managing Partner Rexon Ryu in a series of revealing interviews with policymakers, business leaders, journalists, and artists exploring the most dynamic and consequential region in the world.



Shery Ahn is a New York-based anchor for Bloomberg’s market-open programs “Daybreak Asia” and “Daybreak Australia,” which air on Bloomberg Television from 6 to 9pm EST. Rexon Ryu is the Managing Partner of The Asia Group and is the Board Chair of The Asia Group Foundation. He leads the firm’s region-wide practice on defense and national security.

    Admiral Harry Harris on South Korea and U.S. Strategy in the Indo-Pacific

    Admiral Harry Harris on South Korea and U.S. Strategy in the Indo-Pacific

    Admiral Harry Harris served as U.S. Ambassador to South Korea from 2018 to 2021, before which he was a four-star admiral in the U.S. Navy, commanding the U.S. Pacific Fleet and U.S. Indo-Pacific Command (USINDOPACOM). Admiral Harris was also the first American of Japanese descent to lead USINDOPACOM. Ahead of South Korean President Moon Jae-in’s visit to the White House on May 21, Rexon and Shery spoke with Admiral Harris about his expectations for the Moon-Biden summit, U.S. military capabilities and strategic competition with China, and his views on the Quad and other U.S. partnerships in the Indo-Pacific region. You can access a video of the full conversation at theasiagroup.com/tea-leaves-podcast.

    • 44 min
    Introducing Tea Leaves 2.0: A Conversation with Rexon Ryu and Shery Ahn

    Introducing Tea Leaves 2.0: A Conversation with Rexon Ryu and Shery Ahn

    Tea Leaves welcomes our listeners back with two new co-hosts: Rexon Ryu, Managing Partner at The Asia Group, and Shery Ahn, an anchor at Bloomberg Television’s “Daybreak Asia” and “Daybreak Australia.” In this latest iteration of the Tea Leaves Podcast, Rexon and Shery share their personal stories and discuss how their Asian heritage influenced their perspectives and chosen careers in government, journalism, and the private sector. The two also dive into the emerging influence of China throughout the pandemic and how recent events, such as the global semiconductor shortage and China’s post-pandemic economic recovery, are shining the spotlight on key markets and sectors across the Indo-Pacific.

    • 36 min
    Bill Burns Pt. 2 (Archived)

    Bill Burns Pt. 2 (Archived)

    What does U.S. President Joe Biden’s pick for CIA Director think about the rise of China? Later this week, the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee will review President Biden’s choice for CIA Director Bill Burns. In these two archived Tea Leaves episodes from March 2019, listen firsthand from Ambassador Burns about his views about the state of U.S. diplomacy, the U.S.-China relationship, the Iran nuclear deal, and more.

    • 33 min
    Bill Burns Pt. 1 (Archived)

    Bill Burns Pt. 1 (Archived)

    What does U.S. President Joe Biden’s pick for CIA Director think about the rise of China? Later this week, the U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee will review President Biden’s choice for CIA Director Bill Burns. In these two archived Tea Leaves episodes from March 2019, listen firsthand from Ambassador Burns about his views about the state of U.S. diplomacy, the U.S.-China relationship, the Iran nuclear deal, and more.

    • 29 min
    Vasuki Shastry

    Vasuki Shastry

    For all the promise and potential that Asia has to offer for the world, what challenges does the region face? In this latest Tea Leaves discussion, Kurt and Rich sit down with Vasuki Shastry to take a more counterintuitive approach to Asia’s future and examine the region through a more critical lens, touching on social fault lines and wealth disparities that exist in the region today. Using Shastry’s new book – “Has Asia Lost It?” – as a starting point, the three discuss how both developed and developing Asia will be positioned following the coronavirus pandemic. To view the full video of this conversation, please visit https://theasiagroup.com/in-the-news/.

    • 37 min
    General Dave Goldfein

    General Dave Goldfein

    In this Tea Leaves episode, Kurt is joined by TAG Partner Rexon Ryu to welcome on General Dave Goldfein, recently-retired Chief of Staff of the U.S. Air Force. General Goldfein shares his experiences guiding the 650,000 active-duty, Guard, Reserve, and civilian personnel that make up the U.S. Air Force through the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic. The three also discuss the future of the Air Force in Asia, how the Air Force approaches technological innovation, the importance of nuclear deterrence, and concepts of teamwork and leadership in the military. To watch the video of this conversation, please visit: https://theasiagroup.com/in-the-news/

    • 36 min

Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
77 Ratings

77 Ratings

GregUmmSuqeim ,

Stellar Analysis

I’ve been an admirer of Kurt Campbell since meeting him as a junior Foreign Service Officer in 1999 in Thailand. I hope some day to meet Ambassador Verma. Together they exemplify the best of American foreign policy thinkers — experienced, insightful, inquisitive and aspirationally objective, by which I mean that while they count among the Democratic Party cognoscenti, their approach almost always transcends partisan bias. Terrific. My thanks to them both, Greg D’Elia

DBox3000 ,

Great Questions, Very Interesting

The two hosts ask great questions and elicit insightful responses. I was particularly impressed by Dr. Campbell's artful questions about the efficacy of the Department of State on the policymaking process during the lead-up to the Second U.S.-Iraq War during the first part of the postcast with Ambassador Burns.

South Asia watcher ,

Fantastic podcast!!!

Kurt and Rich are two of the sharpest thinkers on Asia. Very informative and well produced podcast.

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