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Helen and Olga are kindly old ladies who open their hearts and wallets to down-and-out men in Los Angeles. In a city named for angels, the two women seem heaven-sent. After one of the men is killed by a hit-and-run driver -- and then another suffers the same fate -- investigators uncover a horrifying and twisted plot that stuns even the most seasoned detectives.


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Helen and Olga are kindly old ladies who open their hearts and wallets to down-and-out men in Los Angeles. In a city named for angels, the two women seem heaven-sent. After one of the men is killed by a hit-and-run driver -- and then another suffers the same fate -- investigators uncover a horrifying and twisted plot that stuns even the most seasoned detectives.


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    1 – Nothing to Lose. Everything to Gain

    1 – Nothing to Lose. Everything to Gain

    Helen and Olga are on a mission to help homeless men in Los Angeles, when tragedy strikes. Twice.

    • 31 min
    2 – “The Girls”

    2 – “The Girls”

    An insurance investigator’s hunch leads law enforcement to assign a task force to tail two little old ladies.

    • 32 min
    3 – Silk Pajamas and a Flimsy Nightgown

    3 – Silk Pajamas and a Flimsy Nightgown

    The Granny Task Force conducts simultaneous early-morning raids at the homes of Helen and Olga.

    • 37 min
    4 – Girl Talk

    4 – Girl Talk

    Detectives leave Helen and Olga alone together in a room wired for sound. Old resentments boil over.

    • 34 min
    5 – Just a Little Red Paint

    5 – Just a Little Red Paint

    The investigation goes into high gear with the discovery of the murder weapon.

    • 28 min
    6 – The Bottom Line

    6 – The Bottom Line

    Fireworks and finger pointing in court as two little old ladies do whatever it takes to beat a murder rap.

    • 38 min

Customer Reviews

4.7 out of 5
2.6K Ratings

2.6K Ratings

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Keith Morrison

Keith is the absolute best storyteller out there, no one tells a story like Keith!

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My uncle Ken

I remember my uncle Ken always smelled like vanilla. He used to smoke a pipe with vanilla smelling tobacco. I find it odd that my aunt Sue agreed to speak on your podcast, but refused to be on the tv show with my dad about uncle Ken’s murder in 2015 or 2016. My dad is her older brother Tom. You said she has a kind smile, don’t be fooled by a wolf that is dressed to look like a sheep. I remember when the detective knocked on my dads door to tell us about uncle Ken’s murder. It was when we lived in Chesapeake Commons on Data Dr, that was a sad day. My uncle was not a drug user or a drunk like they painted him to be in the tv interview. My uncle was going to become a producer, but when he got to L.A. something happened and he stopped calling. I wish you had asked why my Aunt Sue why she never tried to find uncle Ken since they were so close.

ssnipes ,

Keith Morrison is the GOAT.

So, I’ll listen to Keith read US Tax law.

That said, this was a really interesting story that I hadn’t yet heard of, and I follow like 20 true crime podcasts.

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