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David Eagleman (@davideagleman) is a neuroscientist, New York Times bestselling author, TED speaker, and Guggenheim Fellow. He is the writer and presenter of the Emmy-nominated series The Brain on PBS, as well as the podcast Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman. In Palo Alto, California, he teaches at Stanford University, runs a startup neurotech company called Neosensory, and directs the Center for Science and Law. Dr. Eagleman also runs a film and television production company, Cognito Entertainment, to bring scientific themes (fiction and nonfiction) to the screen.

He is the author of eight books, including the international bestsellers Sum, Incognito, and his newest book, Livewired.

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Past guests on The Tim Ferriss Show include Jerry Seinfeld, Hugh Jackman, Dr. Jane Goodall, LeBron James

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Nora D. Volkow, MD, is Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse (NIDA) at the National Institutes of Health. NIDA is the world’s largest funder of scientific research on the health aspects of drug use and addiction. Dr. Volkow's work has been instrumental in demonstrating that drug addiction is a brain disorder. As a research psychiatrist, Dr. Volkow pioneered the use of brain imaging to investigate how substance use affects brain functions. In particular, her studies have documented how changes in the dopamine system affect the functions of brain regions involved with reward and self-control in addiction. She has also made important contributions to the neurobiology of obesity, ADHD, and aging.

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[06:09] Cadaver homework.

[09:07] The Trotsky connection.

[17:07] How Nora’s father viewed the role of science.

[20:59] Julian Villarreal.

[27:38] A perspective of perseverance.

[33:48] Instilling perseverance in younger scientists.

[35:08] Dancing with Demerol.

[40:05] The current state of addiction in the US.

[44:28] The War on Drug

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Seth Godin is the author of 21 international bestsellers that have changed the way people think about work. His books have been translated into 38 languages and Seth’s books include Tribes, Purple Cow, Linchpin, The Dip, and This Is Marketing. Seth writes one of the most popular marketing blogs in the world, and two of his TED Talks are among the most popular of all time. He is the founder of the altMBA; the social media pioneer Squidoo; and Yoyodyne, one of the first internet companies.

His new book is The Song of Significance: A New Manifesto for Teams. 

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As I wrote in The 4-Hour Chef: “This is now, bar none, my favorite brewing method." And now they have a new Crystal Clear version—sleek enough for display and tough enough for the road. Pick one up at AeroPress.com/Tim for less than $50.

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[05:42] The changes of aging.

[10:07] How Seth gets over momentary lapses of optimism.

[16:13] The Carbon Almanac.

[18:40] Addressing 21st-century nihilism.

[26:23] Finding significance and making a difference.

[35:34] The boss and the bees.

[44:47] Ethically reclaiming meaning from work in the Quaker surveillance state.

[51:50] Seth’s impression of my efforts over the years.

[56:21] Circumnavigating false proxies.

[1:02:17] Employee retention.

[1:05:54] Let’s Get Real or Let’s Not Play.

[1:08:07] Zig Ziglar.

[1:12:12] Seth’s early career life.

[1:13:45] Seth’s current career life.

[1:17:01] The 140-year-old piano.

[1:19:35] Meetings.

[1:24:04] Page 19 thinking.

[1:27:37] S

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Bobby Hundreds (@bobbyhundreds) is an artist, designer, and storyteller based in Los Angeles. He is best known as the co-founder and chief creative officer of global streetwear brand The Hundreds. He is also behind the Family Style Food Festival and the NFT project Adam Bomb Squad. Bobby is also the bestselling author of This Is Not a T-Shirt, a memoir about his life and how he built a brand around community.

His new book, NFTs Are a Scam / NFTs Are the Future, about his two-year journey into Web3, will publish through Farrar, Straus and Giroux.

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[05:49] Signing to the prestigious Farrar, Straus and Giroux (FSG).

[07:21] Bobby's black sheep origin story.

[11:13] When art entered the picture.

[13:52] Who was Abram Edelman?

[27:59] The double life of a parent-pleasing law student and clandestine artist.

[31:45] The Hundreds: from early days to 20 years on.

[44:47] The cosmic intervention of WARP magazine.

[52:02] Japan.

[55:27] The Korean Wave.

[1:08:05] Getting on the radar of tastemakers.

[1:13:44] Collaboration over competition makes a movement.

[1:18:32] Curating creatives assisted by nunchi.

[1:30:03] Necessary disconnections.

[1:41:22] Korea's a creative hotspot today. Where should we look next?

[1:43:38] Rolling with the tides of fickle fashion.

[1:53:47] Collaborations, corporations, and the reason for limited editions.

[2:05:07] The current state of The Hundreds.

[2:11:32] Frank Ocean maintains the mystery.

[2:13:02] Getting collaboration deals without almost being sued or selling out.

[2:18:54] Hermit north stars.

[2:24:50] How to make $7 million in 40 minutes with NFTs (sort of not really).

[2:29:48] Making NFTs more useful than just another set of playing cards for wannabe day traders.

[2:39:21] Why did Bobby write NFTs Are a S

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Technologist, serial entrepreneur, world-class investor, self-experimenter, and all-around wild and crazy guy Kevin Rose (@KevinRose) rejoins me for another episode of The Random Show.

In this one, we discuss affordable luxuries for priceless lives, suiting up for a visit to the Magic Castle, Eliza Ivanova's art, my secret for supple skin, 19th-century Nintendo, Balaji's bet, the science of #hangover remedies, Moonbirds over Tokyo, an unexpected Sanbo Zen inquisition, Japanese death poems, escape rooms, high-fidelity immersive sound, Nanoblocks, and much more!

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Right now, Athletic Greens is offering you their Vitamin D Liquid Formula free with your first subscription purchase—a vital nutrient for a strong immune system and strong bones. Visit AthleticGreens.com/Tim to claim this special offer today and receive the free Vitamin D Liquid Formula (and 5 free travel packs) with your first subscription purchase! That’s up to a one-year supply of Vitamin D as added value when you try their delicious and comprehensive all-in-one daily greens product.

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[04:44] The important juice.

[08:37] Discount downfalls and luxury lettuce.

[13:16] Becoming suitable for The Magic Castle.

[17:12] Affordable luxuries for a priceless life.

[19:47] A pipe dream.

[22:04] A skincare secret.

[23:08] Later life dating and alcohol abating (#hangover).

[31:35] The current and anticipated state of AI.

[46:15] Balaji's bet.

[1:02:00] Kevin practices his ABCs.

[1:05:17] Eliza Ivanova.

[1:07:10] TimTimsPrivacyScreens dot com.

[1:09:38] Nintendo: Hanafuda to Zelda.

[1:12:52] Untranslatables.

[1:13:48] Tokyo Moonbirds and Zen karaoke.

[1:18:10] Japanese Death Poems and other uplifting reading.

[1:22:44] Some escape rooms are better than others.

[1:26:51] High-fidelity immersive sound.

[1:31:26] A whispering Replika and a vibrating "chest."

[1:35:28] Nanoblocks!

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Kevin Kelly (@kevin2kelly) helped launch and edit Wired magazine. He has written for The New York Times, and The Wall Street Journal, among many other publications.

He is the author of the new book Excellent Advice for Living: Wisdom I Wish I'd Known Earlier. Other books by Kevin Kelly include Out of Control, the 1994 classic book on decentralized emergent systems; The Silver Cord, a graphic novel about robots and angels; What Technology Wants, a robust theory of technology; Vanishing Asia, his 50-year project to photograph the disappearing cultures of Asia, and The Inevitable: Understanding the 12 Technological Forces That Will Shape Our Future, a New York Times bestseller.

Kevin is currently co-chair of The Long Now Foundation, which is building a clock in a mountain that will tick for 10,000 years. He also has a daily blog; a weekly podcast about cool tools; and a weekly newsletter, Recomendo, a free, one-page list of six very brief recommendations of cool stuff. He is also a Senior Maverick at Wired. He lives in Pacifica, California.

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[05:51] Is Kevin Kelly the most interesting man in the world?

[08:37] Kevin’s long bet against the human population.

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