The upstarts shaking up the defence industry

The Iran war has shown that low-cost drones can challenge even the mightiest military forces. Now the Pentagon is turning to a new breed of defence companies, led by Anduril, SpaceX and Palantir. How are these firms changing the way America wages war? Guests and hosts: Matthew Steckman, president and chief business officer at Anduril Henry Tricks, The Economist's US technology editor Mike Bird, co-host of “Money Talks” Alice Fulwood, co-host of “Money Talks” Topics covered: Drones Defence industry Iran war Transcripts of our podcasts are available via economist.com/podcasts. Listen to what matters most, from global politics and business to science and technology—subscribe to Economist Podcasts+. For more information about how to access Economist Podcasts+, please visit our FAQs page or watch our video explaining how to link your account.