ThursdAI - May 14 - TML Interaction Models, Musk v Altman Disclosures, CW Sandboxes & /goal Takes Over

Hey everyone, Alex here 👋

I am back live on ThursdAI after a week off, and yes, I am now a married man! Thank you for all the congrats, and also thank you to Ryan and Yam for holding down the fort last week while I tried very hard to disconnect.

This week was a relatively chill one in AI land (no, really, for once), which actually let us go deep on some really fascinating stuff. We’ve got Thinking Machines Lab finally shipping their first real research with these wild interaction models, Meta Muse Spark showing up in actual products (and it’s surprisingly good!), the Musk v. Altman trial dropping juicy disclosures, and probably the biggest narrative shift on the show today: all of us are quitting OpenClaw. Yeah, you read that right. We’ll get into why.

Also! and this is breaking news from this morning, CoreWeave just launched Sandboxes for your agents. I’ll cover that in This Week’s Buzz, but if you’ve been waiting for production-grade sandbox infrastructure that powers 9 out of 10 major AI labs, today’s your day.

Oh, and we had Vic Perez from Krea on to talk about Krea 2, their first foundation image model trained completely from scratch. Let’s dig in.

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The Great OpenClaw Exodus towards Hermes 🫠

I’m going to start with what was honestly the most emotional thread of the entire show, because three of us, me, Ryan, AND Wolfram; all independently switched away from OpenClaw this week. And we kicked off the show literally processing this together on air.

The story is the same across all of us. OpenClaw was magical back in February when we first brought it to you. Things just worked. But after Anthropic’s pricing changes (we covered this — they made Max-tier subscription usage of Opus through OpenClaw significantly more expensive), and after months of the constant Lego-construction-style breakage on every update, the magic faded. Ryan said it best on the show; he was “constantly fixing OpenClaw” instead of using it.

So Ryan went to Codex. Wolfram and I both went to Hermes from Nous Research. And folks, things just work again. That February feeling is back, and with GPT 5.5, it’s an incredible assistant!

Why Hermes? A few things:

* It’s now the #1 most-used CLI agent on OpenRouter globally, passing OpenClaw and even passing Claude Code on OpenRouter usage. That’s a massive milestone for Nous Research and shows we’re not alone in this migration.

* It has /goal (more on this in a sec), steering, and background computer use via the TryCUA integration.

* It’s open! which means if you’ve built a system like Wolfram’s “Amy” or my “Wooolfred” or Ryan’s “R2” (yes, we know each other’s assistants’ names better than each other’s kids’ names at this point 😅), you can port your memories, profile, and soul files seamlessly.

The migration was so smooth that Wolfram literally had Codex talk to Hermes to plan and execute the migration of his home assistant agent. Two agents collaborating to migrate themselves. We are living in 2026 and it’s easier than ever to switch. If you haven’t tried Hermes, give it a go!

Steering is maybe the most underrated addition to Hermes, it’s a Codex feature, but exists in Hermes, with GPT 5.5 you can send a follow-up message, and the agent will see it after the next tool call, not after the whole chain of thought was completed (like OpenClaw defaults to) - this changes the conversation to be much more natural!

Agents buying wedding gifts using Stripe wallet!

Real quick story: Two weeks ago we covered Stripe’s new wallet APIs that let your agents have actual budgets to spend money on the web. I told my agent (back when it was still OpenClaw) to “go buy us a wedding present, don’t tell me what it is.” It half-worked, half-broke.

This week, a giant custom map of our travels that just arrived in the mail. I approved one Stripe push notification and the rest just happened. It’s been paying my traffic tickets via screenshots. I’ve also had Hermes pay traffic tickets for me (HOV lane ones, not like.. DUI, 80% of my drive is Tesla FSD)

So so happy that my AI assistant got us a present of his own choosing! And it arrived in physical form. Not perfect (the date there is our proposal date ha, but it’s still cool!)

Codex gets remote control! (X)

While me and Wolfram moved to Hermes, Ryan Carson moved to Codex, and during the show, I wondered, how does he communicate with his R2? Well, just a few minutes after we concluded the live show, OpenAI dropped some breaking news!

Codex is now on mobile, and it connects to any mac (for now), from any iOS/Android device, and you can control your Codex, your whole Mac with Computer Use, your browser with Chrome extension, and everything else Codex can do... on the go!

This is a huge unlock for many folks, and for many, I assume this will nearly replace the need for something like OpenClaw/Hermes, be much more secure by default and work flawlessly out of the box!

The setup is super easy, after updating your ChatGPT app, you now have a new “Codex” window, and after updating the Codex Mac App, you will be able to pair them, and voila, all your Codex local sessions are on the Ios app as well. This works way better than Claude remote btw, significantly so.

The fact that you can now add multiple macs (+ ssh servers, they also added the ability to remote control other servers via SSH) is a huge deal, OpenAI is quickly leap frogging Anthroipc, and many are noticing this and switching away from Claude Code.

Big Companies & APIs

Meta Muse Spark: The Voice AI That Actually Does Things 🎤

Let’s start with the one I actually got to play with: Meta launched Muse Spark-powered voice conversations across the Meta AI app, WhatsApp, Instagram, Facebook, and the Ray-Ban Meta glasses (X, Announcement).

And folks, I was honestly surprised by how good this is. I recorded a 5-minute live test and it’s not cut at all. The voice mode reacts almost instantaneously. It’s multilingual (it correctly identified Russian and Hebrew even if it can’t respond in them yet). It can search the Meta network mid-conversation — I showed it a screenshot of one of my own Instagram Reels and within half a second it found the exact reel and explained what we were discussing. Half a second.

It also does live camera AI, where it watches what your phone sees. The only thing it failed to identify? My Meta Ray-Ban glasses. The Meta AI didn’t know what Meta Ray-Bans look like. That was the funniest moment of the whole demo.

The team at Meta’s Superintelligence Labs spent 4.5 months building this, and the thing that really stood out to me from the announcement is this line: “Our models are scaling predictably. Muse Spark is an early data point on our trajectory, and we have larger models in development.” Translation: this is the small one. Bigger Muse models are coming.

Meta’s superpower here, as always, is distribution. They can shove this into the daily product surface of billions of users. ChatGPT advanced voice mode (still on the GPT-4o family) has gotten genuinely worse lately — I barely use it anymore. Meanwhile Meta is shipping good real-time voice across WhatsApp and Instagram. This is the speed-of-product-integration game, and Meta is winning it.

Thinking Machines Lab Previews full duplex Interaction Models 🤯

This is the one Wolfram and I really geeked out on. Mira Murati’s Thinking Machines Lab finally released real research — and it’s a fundamentally different bet than what anyone else is making (X, Blog).

They’re calling them interaction models, and TML-Interaction-Small is a 276B parameter MoE with 12B active, trained from scratch for native real-time human-AI collaboration. Note: they announced it, they didn’t release weights or an API yet — limited research preview is coming “in the next few months.”

Here’s why this matters and what makes it different from Meta’s voice mode (which is also impressive!): the architecture is 200ms micro-turns where the model is continuously perceiving audio, video, AND text WHILE simultaneously generating output. There’s no turn boundary detection, no VAD harness — the model itself handles all of that natively. It’s full duplex baked into the weights.

The demos are fire. The model can:

* Speak while listening (live translation in real-time)

* Watch you do pushups and proactively count the