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Melissa and Kathryn talk creativity, hustle, and real life with writers, artists, and other creators.

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    • 5.0 • 48 Ratings

Melissa and Kathryn talk creativity, hustle, and real life with writers, artists, and other creators.

    Michelle Quach

    Michelle Quach

    In the 68th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Michelle Quach about graphic design, unlikable female characters, and creating a love interest who does more than just the assigned reading. Michelle is the author of the debut YA, NOT HERE TO BE LIKED. Michelle can be found on Twitter @michellequach and Instagram @_michellequach. Her website is michellequach.com.
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    Gold-Plated Girls newsletter: ‘Never Have I Ever’ & Dead Dads & Me by Victoria Edel
    Laura Hankin
    A Special Place for Women by Laura Hankin
    The Other Two on HBOMax
    Munich
    Schitt’s Creek on Netflix
    Ted Lasso on Apple+
    Constance Grady
    Why a Christmas Episode Supercharged the Ted Lasso Debate by Kathryn VanArendonk
    Reservation Dogs on Hulu
    Only Murders in the Building on Hulu
    Moving On, A Love Story - Nora Ephron Apthorp article
    Portrait of a Scotsman by Evie Dunmore
    League of Extraordinary Women series
    The Bookshop of Second Chances by Jackie Fraser
    Suddenly You by LIsa Kleypas
    Fated Mates podcast
    Sally Rooney
    Why is the Sex in Sally Rooney’s Novels So Good? by Amil Niazi
    She’s All That
    Writing the Romantic Comedy by Billy Merritt
    Macbeth
    Life: A User’s Manual by Georges Perec
    The Book Doctors
    PitMad
    If You, Then Me by Yvonne Woon
    In-Between Girl
    The Ezra Klein Show: How Blue Cities Became So Outrageously Unaffordable
    The Ezra Klein Show: That Anxiety You’re Feeling?
    Hana Kh Carries On by Uzma Jalaluddin
    About Us:
    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.
    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.

    • 1 hr 2 min
    Emma Kress

    Emma Kress

    In the 67th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Emma Kress about writing girls in sports, taking risks, and social media as an author. Emma is the author of DANGEROUS PLAY, available now! Emma can be found on Twitter @emma_kress, TikTok @emma_kress, and Instagram @kress.emma. Her website is emmakress.com.
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    All I Wanna Do
    Bluey
    Bluey is the Best Kids’ Show of Our Time by Kathryn VanArendonk for Vulture
    Flat Stanley
    The Nanny
    Drawn That Way by Elissa Sussman
    A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas
    Born in Fire / Born in Ice / Born in Shame (Irish Born trilogy) by Nora Roberts
    The Blue Castle by L. M. Montgomery
    Reservation Dogs
    Sterlin Harjo on WTF with Marc Maron
    Killers of the Flower Moon movie
    Brendan Fraser Joins Killers of the Flower Moon
    Killers of the Flower Moon by David Grann
    The Great House Revival
    Cynthia Leitich-Smith
    Mary Quattlebaum
    Amy King
    David Macinnis Gill
    A.R. Capetta
    Cory McCarthy
    Nova Ren Suma
    Our episode with Nova Ren Suma
    Ruth Ware
    Pride and Premeditation by Tirzah Price
    Our episode with Tirzah Price
    In the Same Boat by Holly Green
    Sarah Dessen
    When You Look Like Us by Pamela N. Harris
    Mare of Easttown
    Ted Lasso
    About Us:
    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.
    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.

    • 1 hr 28 min
    Margot Wood

    Margot Wood

    In the 66th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Margot Wood about Emma retellings, marketing a book as “queer,” and finding community in book lovers. Margot can be found on Twitter @margotwood and Instagram @margotmwood. Her website is margotwood.com.
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    Epic Reads
    Immersive Van Gogh exhibit
    Carrieres de Lumières
    Georges Méliès
    Hieronymous Bosch
    L’Atelier des Lumières Paris
    A Black Lady Sketch Show
    Issa Rae’s wedding photos
    A Special Place for Women by Laura Hankin
    While We Were Dating by Jasmine Guillory
    Our episode with Jasmine
    Emma by Jane Austen
    Emma (2020 film)
    The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins
    Adrienne Kisner
    Our episode with Adrienne
    Meisner technique
    Kiersten White
    Alphasmart Neo Typewriter
    The Princess Diaries
    Love, Simon
    Insurgent movie
    Cheer Up: Love and Pompoms by Crystal Fraser
    The Great Circle by Maggie Shipstead
    Ice Planet Barbarians by Ruby Dixon
    Bones
    Buffy the Vampire Slayer
    Freddie Prinze Jr.
    About Us:
    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.
    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.

    • 1 hr 5 min
    Azadeh Westergaard

    Azadeh Westergaard

    In the 65th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Azadeh Westergaard about illustration, the joys of research, and Nikola Tesla. Azadeh is the author of A LIFE ELECTRIC: THE STORY OF NIKOLA TESLA. She can be found on Twitter @ahwestergaard and Instagram @ahwestergaard. Her website is ahwestergaard.com.
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    Vermont College of Fine Arts Writing for Children and Young Adults
    Heartburn by Nora Ephron audiobook read by Meryl Streep
    Heartburn movie
    Nora Ephron’s “Heartburn” is an Ideal Audiobook by Helen Rosner
    Quotation from Heartburn
    Fresh by Margot Wood
    Emma by Jane Austen
    Clueless
    Hacks
    Joan Rivers: A Piece of Work
    Never Have I Ever
    Virgin River
    Black Widow
    Seven Days in June
    Thanks for Waiting by Doree Shafrir
    Forever35 podcast
    Amelia Bedelia
    Roseanne Rosannadanna
    Júlia Sardà (illustrator of Azadeh’s book)
    She Made a Monster: How Mary Shelley Created Frankenstein by Lynn Fulton
    Mary Who Wrote Frankenstein by Linda Bailey, illustrated by Júlia Sardà
    Laura Hankin
    Andrea Bartz and Laura Hankin Talk About Accidentally Writing Similar Novels
    Elizabeth Gilbert
    Ann Patchett
    Big Magic
    Newspapers.com
    Nikola Tesla Museum
    New York Public Library
    Archive.org
    New York Public Library for the Performing Arts
    Theatre on Film and Tape Archive
    Oklahoma! on Broadway
    On a Beam of Light: A Story of Albert Einstein by Jennifer Berne
    Liz Garton Scanlon
    Maira Kalman
    Ooh-La-La Max in Love by Maira Kalman
    School of Visual Arts
    Monica Wellington
    Mary Quattlebaum
    Martha Brockenbrough
    Linda Urban
    Patent Pending bar
    Patent Pending in Nomad is a Cafe by Day, Speakeasy by Night
    Call My Agent!
    The Worst Witch
    The Worst Witch books by Jill Murphy
    Sing
    Sing 2
    Misery
    Pokko and the Drum by Matthew Forsythe
    The Scribner Anthology of Contemporary Short Fiction
    Jhumpa Lahiri
    “Brownies” by ZZ Packer
    The Aspiring Poet’s Journal
    About Us:
    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.
    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.
     

    • 52 min
    Cassie Gustafson

    Cassie Gustafson

    In the 64th episode of Truer Words, we speak with Cassie Gustafson about writing about sexual assault responsibly, loving dark stories, and Tana French. Cassie can be found on Twitter @cassiegusty and Instagram @cassiegusty. Her website is cassiegustafson.com.
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    Djerassi
    Nova Ren Suma
    Our episode with Nova Ren Suma
    World of Our Fathers: The Journey of Eastern European Jews and the Life They Found and Made by Irving Howe
    Norma Klein
    Just Friends
    Margaret
    The Cinematic Traumas of Kenneth Lonergan
    Melissa’s Bright Wall / Dark Room essay
    Margaret issue of Bright Wall / Dark Room
    Smith-Cameron Succession
    You Can Count on Me
    Manchester by the Sea
    Angels in America
    West Side Story
    Gosford Park
    The Box in the Woods by Maureen Johnson
    Truly Devious Trilogy by Maureen Johnson
    The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron
    Finding Water by Julia Cameron
    By Now, Burnout is a Given
    Band Candy
    Earshot - Buffy saves Jonathan
    Danny Strong
    Laurie Halse Anderson
    Speak
    Tana French
    The Secret Place by Tana French
    The Trespasser by Tana French
    In the Woods by Tana French
    Laurie Faria Stolarz
    Jane Anonymous by Laurie Faria Stolarz
    The Last Secret You’ll Ever Keep by Laurie Faria Stolarz
    Lost in the Never Woods by Aiden Thomas
    A Song Below Water by Bethany C. Morrow
    The Handmaid’s Tale on Hulu
    Land directed by Robin Wright
    Songland
    About Us:
    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.
    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.

    • 1 hr 28 min
    Kristy Everington

    Kristy Everington

    In the 63rd episode of Truer Words, we speak with Kristy Everington about Australian authors, why Americans call everything “cute,” and Ethan Hawke. Kristy is the author of the debut picture book ISOBEL ADDS IT UP. Kristy can be found on Twitter @kmeverington and Instagram @kristyeveryington. Her website is kristyeverington.com.
    Mentioned in this Episode:
    Very Sincerely Yours by Kerry Winfrey
    Our episode with Kerry Winfrey
    Starstruck on HBO Max
    Ted Lasso on Apple+
    Dickinson on Apple+
    Hacks on HBO Max
    Succession on HBO
    One Last Stop by Casey McQuiston
    We Can’t Keep Meeting Like This by Rachel Lynn Solomon
    Our episode with Rachel Lynn Solomon
    Kirkus review of Isobel Adds It Up
    Kathi Appelt
    Praise by Andrew McGahan
    Sara Zarr
    Looking for Alaska by John Green
    Twilight by Stephenie Meyer
    Jaclyn Moriarty
    Melina Marchetta
    Tomorrow, When the War Began series by John Marsden
    Martine Leavitt
    Jane Kurtz
    An Na
    Not Great, Bob!
    The Artist’s Way by Julia Cameron
    Buffy on Hulu
    Angel on Hulu
    The X-Files
    THE X-FILES TWEET (allegedly, please don’t sue us)
    Dawson’s Creek
    Our episode with Laurie Morrison
    Mare of Easttown on HBO Max
    Cruel Summer on Freeform
    Vampire’s Promise by Caroline B. Cooney
    You by Caroline Kepnes
    You TV series
    Dig by A.S. King
    The Project by Courtney Summers
    About Us:
    Truer Words is created and produced by Melissa Baumgart and Kathryn Benson. Our music was composed by Mike Sayre, and our logo was designed by Marianne Murphy.
    You can follow us on Twitter @truerwordspod and on Instagram @truerwordspodcast. Contact us via our website, truerwordspodcast.com, or email us at truerwordspodcast@gmail.com.

    • 1 hr 10 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
48 Ratings

48 Ratings

Elle CP ,

Insightful and engaging

I love this podcast. Wether you are here for the insighful discussion about writting and making art or the delightful conversation with artists you won't be dissapointed!

Sampoetmfa ,

So engaging

I love listening to Kathryn and Melissa discuss their work and reading life and then speaking with authors and publishing professionals. This show is so engaging and a joy to listen to!

Goodbye Orchid, a novel ,

Both fun and deep

Kathryn and Melissa have great rapport. It’s a joy to listen to their views, and they’re not afraid to go deep with their guests. Awesome podcast

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