Jeff Pearlman's weekly in-depth, no-holds-barred conversation with a writer on writing. Available here and on iTunes
Chris Herring: Sports Illustrated writer and author, "Blood in the Garden: The Flagrant History of the 1990s New York Knicks"
On chronicling the exploits of the NBA's most physical team; on efforts to speak with Patrick Ewing and John Starks; on saying no and no to a topic—then yes.
Jessie Sage: Writer/Sex Worker/Former Pittsburgh City Paper Sex Columnist
On working in sex and also chronicling the world of the sex worker; on why the Washington Post insisted she use her real name in a byline; on whether saying, "I love you, too" to a client is kosher; on how one becomes a sex worker; on chronicling the trials of a trans child.
Chris Long: Former NFL defensive end and host of The Green Light Pod
On athletes engaging with the media and deciding which reporters are trustworthy; on the myriad give-and-take options between scribes and jocks; on why nearly all professional football players are—ultimately—meat and what it's like to walk away from the sport.
Steve Cannella: Sports Illustrated co-editor in chief
On the nightmarish joy/hell of the 1999 compilation of SI's 50th greatest athletes from every state; on how we left out Geprge Brett (deliberately) and Evander Holyfield (accidentally); on whether print magazines are still worth reading; on how life without an office can be shockingly productive
Katie Strang: The Athletic senior enterprise and investigative writer
On digging and digging and digging into a subject until there's nothing left to dig; on an eye-opening investigation into the Arizona Coyotes; on the art of the cold call; on the perils and/or advantages of interviewing someone over beers.
Mark Fainaru-Wada: ESPN investigative reporter and co-author of "Game of Shadows"
On how Mark's Barry Bonds book brought him glory, while my Barry Bonds brought bought me Dollar Store space; on how the entire Balco investigation commenced; on the non-joys of cold calling subjects.
Once a writer..
(Couple of times) Journalism student, aspirational writer. I stumbled on this podcast about three years ago and have been a regular listener ever since. Perlman’s outlook is refreshing and his encouragement to “keep writing,” is what all writers - imposters or not - need to hear. So thanks.
Great for Journalists in Training!
I’ve been listening to this as a freshman journalism major, and it’s been so beneficial to learn from people that are currently working in the field. I also really appreciate the diversity of perspectives on the show. If you haven’t yet, subscribe to his Substack too, it’s the best thing in my inbox!
Similarity in diversity
One of the things I enjoy most comes from the diversity of perspectives (sports, art, journalism, editors, biographers, and university professors in my case, among others) - a diversity of perspectives that many times ring familiar in my experience. Writing is a terrifying, maddening, wonderful window in to our lives and experiences and Jeff Pearlman and guests bring their truths to the table reminding me the writing process is a journey without end, but many beginnings - writing gives a thousand lives. Thank you for bringing life Jeff.