Tyler Cowen on Harvard, the GOAT Economist, and Ending Stagnation "Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

On this episode of Upstream, Erik sits down with Tyler Cowen to discuss Harvard, AI, Javier Milei's legacy, the value of non-legibility in talent spotting, and more.
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LINKS
Read Tyler's new book for free: https://econgoat.ai/
Tyler's blog: https://marginalrevolution.com
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@tylercowen (Tyler)
@eriktorenberg (Erik)
@upstream__pod
@turpentinemedia
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TIMESTAMPS:
(00:00) Intro
(02:48) Tyler's new book GOAT: Who is the Greatest Economist of all Time and Why Does it Matter?
(05:19) Javier Milei and dismantling bureaucracy
(08:50) Who is the GOAT economist?
(12:29) AI, economic growth, and fertility
(16:58) Sponsor | Shopify
(18:34) Policies for managing population decline
(28:44) Emergent Ventures & talent spotting
(31:59) The value of non-legibility
(33:25) Predictions about Harvard
(35:38) The Future of Higher Education
(37:45) How Twitter and Harvard are related
(40:22) How to think about group differences
(43:43) Bronze Age Pervert on Nietzsche and postliberalism
(46:45) Rawls's veil of ignorance
(48:19) Tyler on his career and legacy
(52:45) The future of the University of Austin
(56:58) Wrap
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