Who are we? Why do we act, think and feel the way we do? How can we become our best, most authentic selves? Welcome to Typology, a podcast that explores the mystery of the human personality and how we can use the Enneagram typing system as a tool to become our best, most authentic selves. Hosted by author, speaker and counselor, Ian Morgan Cron, Typology features interviews with thought leaders from every sphere of life, including renowned Enneagram authors and teachers, psychologists, theologians, artists, business leaders, neuroscientists, philosophers, and more. In other words, we’ll be talking with people who are trying to become the best version of themselves in the world.
Forming My Own Opinion as an Enneagram 9, feat. Andy Gullahorn
Each Enneagram Type occupies a story about who they are and how they think the world works. The Enneagram Nine’s story is built around the mistaken belief that they’re not really as important as other people, or sometimes it’s just that other people just seem to have more energy and investment in their own opinions, preferences, desires, and viewpoints than Nines do. Coupled with their desire to preserve connections with other people and preserve inner and outer peace, Nines adopt a strategy of avoiding conflict and merging with others. The risk of this story is that they can become self-less…without a self.
The healing journey for the Peacemaker is to decouple themselves from that story to rewrite a new one. So, today, one of my favorite singer-songwriters on the planet and long-time student of the Enneagram, Andy Gullahorn joins me in the studio for a conversation about how the Enneagram has helped guide his healing and growth.
In this episode we talk about:
Character defects or defenses Doing Enneagram work in community Finding a different relationship with anger, and Learning to feel things and form opinions in real-time He also shares a special Enneagram song during the interview. You’re going to love it!
Special Episode: Ian reads, "The Story of You," - Chapter One
As you can imagine, when you’re in the middle of a book launch, you talk to your publisher quite frequently. One of the things that kept coming up in our conversations was a desire to serve our Typology listeners with some great content from my new book. After batting some ideas back and forth, we finally decided on what I think is a great ‘thank you’ to our loyal listeners…. and that is to do a bonus episode of Typology where we actually include an entire chapter of the audiobook version of The Story of You.
In this episode, you'll hear the entire first chapter of The Story of You, recorded by yours truly from a beautiful studio here in Nashville. Recording an audiobook is really one of the coolest parts of writing a book, so I’m very excited to be able to share a sneak peek of that with you all!
We'll have another great episode coming your way on Thursday with my friend Andy Gullahorn. Stay tuned for that episode and if you like what you hear of the audiobook, please consider heading over to Audible and picking up an audiobook copy of The Story of You.
Embracing the Practically Divine in Ordinary Experiences, feat. Becca Stevens
In today’s episode, Becca Stevens joins me for a conversation about embracing the divine in our everyday ordinary and extraordinary experiences. She recounts her observations of sacredness when she opens her heart and truly listens to the stories of others and shares how redefining and rewriting our own stories leads to lasting transformational healing.
Becca Stevens is a speaker, social entrepreneur, author, priest, founder of 10 justice initiatives, and President of Thistle Farms. She has been featured on PBS NewsHour, The Today Show, CNN, ABC World News, named a CNN Hero, and White House Champion of Change. Drawn from 25 years of leadership in mission-driven work, Becca leads important conversations across the country with an inspiring message that love is the strongest force for change in the world.
The Rhythms of Marriage and the Enneagram, feat. Chris and Jenni Graebe
Do you long to enjoy your spouse over a lifetime but you don’t know how to get there? How do you identify where you want to be in your relationship and what practices can you implement to help you get there?
In today’s episode, Chris and Jenni join me for a conversation about the habits and rhythms that shape a strong relationship with your spouse. We explore how understanding the Enneagram can set your marriage up for success and help you awaken to the things we each can do differently to improve our relationships.
Chris and Jenni also explain:
The 5 core rhythms to help a marriage thrive Important ways to support each other through different seasons of growth, and How different orientations to time can impact your relationships
Empowering Your Imagination with the Dynamic Type 7 Duo, Nathan and Joy Clarkson
This is a first! In five seasons of Typology, we finally have our first pair of siblings….who share the same type!
What better way to explore the inner workings of The Enthusiast than from two siblings who share the same Enneagram number? Raised in a home where creativity and deep thinking were celebrated, Nathan and Joy Clarkson join me for a conversation about all things Seven.
In this episode, we share:
Tips for raising an Enthusiast from two Sevens The communication style of Sevens The role orientation to time plays in all our relationships We also discuss their new, aptly named book, The Clubhouse: Open the Door to Limitless Adventure, where they draw on their own childhood experiences and show that imagination is the best way to play and learn.
Tune in on Apple, Spotify, or your favorite podcast player then share your feedback on Instagram. We’d love to hear your insights.
REPLAY: Dr. Curt Thompson on the Enneagram and Shame
The Enneagram provides nine consistent, fairly predictable ways for us to understand and tell our narrative of how we operate in the world and make sense of our lives. It’s a tool that helps us enter into a conversation about the recurring themes and patterns of behaviors that are self-defeating or hurtful to others. One theme that operates as a thread in each of our lives is shame. Next to love, I believe shame is the most powerful force in the universe, but in the wrong direction.
In today’s profoundly moving, heart-changing replay, author and psychiatrist Dr. Curt Thompson joins me for a deep conversation about shame and how it plays out as a human experience for all nine types.
In this episode you’ll learn:
What shame does as opposed to what it is
How shame manifests in each Enneagram type
How we can begin to heal shame through community
I really enjoy this podcast. I learn something new each week, as well as gain some insights that have been immensely helpful in my own personal growth. I highly recommend!
Ian really knows his stuff and it’s downright compelling to hear him talk about types. As a fellow 4, I really appreciate the authenticity Ian brings to the table ❤️
I love this podcast!
thank you, Ian and Anthony, for providing such thoughtful and inspiring content every week~ Typology is the first podcast I will listen to when new new podcasts ‘drop’ and I find myself scrolling through your old episodes when I need a deep dive into the enneagram. thank you for helping to make life more fun and insightful!