39 episodes

Unseen Leadership, hosted by Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter, explores the unseen stories that have made leaders who they are today. This is a podcast for young leaders to learn from those ahead of them by exploring the early days of their leadership, understanding the mistakes they made, and identifying the habits that shaped them. All to help you lead in the future. This podcast will be featuring guests like Carey Nieuwhof, Jamie Ivey, Clay Scroggins, Jackie Hill Perry, Levi Lusko, and many more.

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    • Christianity
    • 4.8, 164 Ratings

Unseen Leadership, hosted by Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter, explores the unseen stories that have made leaders who they are today. This is a podcast for young leaders to learn from those ahead of them by exploring the early days of their leadership, understanding the mistakes they made, and identifying the habits that shaped them. All to help you lead in the future. This podcast will be featuring guests like Carey Nieuwhof, Jamie Ivey, Clay Scroggins, Jackie Hill Perry, Levi Lusko, and many more.

    Unseen Leadership Episode 37: Derwin Gray on Focusing on Discipleship More Than Leadership

    Unseen Leadership Episode 37: Derwin Gray on Focusing on Discipleship More Than Leadership

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Derwin Gray who is a former NFL football player and the founding and lead pastor of Transformation Church in South Carolina. He is also an author of many books, including his latest The Good Life.

    During their conversation, they discuss how to learn from failure, how to focus on discipleship more than leadership, and how to find true happiness in Christ.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 37:



    “Typically where leaders fail is that we delegate tasks instead of delegating responsibility.”

    “The best teacher is failure.”

    “I thought pastoring was just getting up and preaching, but it is not. That is about 5% of what I do.”

    “If you don’t deal with conflict on the front end and it gets toxic, on the back end it’ll be even more expensive and many more people will be hurt.”

    “Leaders must step into conflict to bring about resolution, to bring about restoration, and to bring about reconciliation.”

    “The greater we understand the cross and Jesus making peace, the greater that we can be peacemakers.”

    “In the New Testament, the word leadership is used 3 times and the word disciple is used 269 times. Why don’t we talk about discipleship more?”

    “Leadership and discipleship are two sides of the same coin. However, you can be a leader without a disciple, but every disciple is called to be a leader.”

    “Oftentimes we are ambitious for power and status instead of being ambitious for Jesus.”

    “Happiness is not about what you are getting. Happiness about who you are becoming.”“Wouldn’t it be sad to live a life of effective ministry and be broken hearted at the end of it.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    The Good Life by Derwin Gray

    The Evangelism Linebacker

    Designed to Lead by Eric Geiger and Kevin Peck

    On Pastoring by H.B. Charles Jr.

    Conformed to His Image by Ken Boa

    Paul by N.T. Wright













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 40 min
    Unseen Leadership Episode 36: Steve Green on Seeing Business as Ministry

    Unseen Leadership Episode 36: Steve Green on Seeing Business as Ministry

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy is joined by Steve Green who is the President of Hobby Lobby, founder of the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC, and author of many books including his latest This Beautiful Book which just recently released.

    During their conversation, they discuss how to build a strong organization, how to lead relationally, and how to see your business as a ministry.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 36:



    “You lose teaching opportunities when you just do the job yourself.”

    “No one learns more than the teacher.”

    “My job is making sure I have good people and that I’m building a strong organization.”

    “As a leader, you don’t always have to be the expert in the room.”

    “My nature is more of the doer and I can miss out on relational moments.”

    “It really became clear to me that not only was I doing ministry at church but the business was a direct ministry.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    Museum of the Bible

    This Beautiful Book by Steve Green

    Good to Great by Jim Collins

    Saving My Assassin by Virginia Prodan













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 32 min
    Unseen Leadership Episode 35: Ken Costa on Understanding Your Calling

    Unseen Leadership Episode 35: Ken Costa on Understanding Your Calling

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Ken Costa who is a London-based, internationally renowned banker, author and speaker. He has been the chairman of some of the world’s largest investment banks, advisor to some of the most powerful people in the world, and is a committed Christian who believes Jesus is the hope of the world.

    During their conversation, they discuss how to view your work, how to understand your calling, and slow down and listen to God.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 35:



    “I came to realize God was really interested in what I did throughout the week, not just what I did on Sundays.”

    “You can’t govern the timing of God.”

    “If you are trying to reach the top and don’t feel called by God to do it, you are going to burn out.”

    “The great heritage of Christians is that we know our why.”

    “With COVID-19, it is as if God has said to the world, stop. Reboot, rewire, and rethink.”

    “You can’t just Google your why and your calling. It is a profound psychological process. We have to cut through the noise.”

    “The door that God opens, no one can close. And the doors that God closes, no one can open.”

    “For this generation, we live in a spectrum between broadband and burnout. And at the moment, we were on the verge of people veering toward burnout.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    God at Work by Ken Costa

    Know Your Why by Ken Costa

    Start with Why by Simon Sinek

    Atomic Habits by James Clear













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 37 min
    Unseen Leadership Episode 34: Daniel Im on Navigating Transitions

    Unseen Leadership Episode 34: Daniel Im on Navigating Transitions

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Daniel Im who is the Senior Associate Pastor at Beulah Alliance Church, speaker, and author of a few books including his latest You Are What You Do.

    During their conversation, they discuss navigating transitions, discerning God’s call on your life, and staying focused on the little things.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 34:



    “We just wanted to get plugged in and be the type of volunteer I would have looked for while on staff at a church.”

    “When God is moving you, it is like he is a good gardener.”

    “I loved the number 2 role and the systems side of things.”

    “We need to be faithful and follow God’s ways by cultivating spiritual practices and being in community.”

    “Spiritual growth is a lot like sleeping. You can’t cause yourself to sleep, but you can create the conditions in which it will come.” - Richard Foster

    “Don’t assume every opportunity is from God. It could be a distraction.”

    “Instead of trying to do great things for God. Let’s just do things for a great God.”

    “Be faithful with the little things and the big things will come.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    You Are What You Do by Daniel Im

    The Pastor: A Memoir by Eugene Peterson

    Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership by Ruth Haley Barton

    Soul Keeping by John Ortberg













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 50 min
    Unseen Leadership Episode 33: John Eldredge on Pausing and Slowing Down

    Unseen Leadership Episode 33: John Eldredge on Pausing and Slowing Down

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by John Eldredge who is a counselor, a teacher, and an author of  Wild at Heart and his latest book called Get Your Life Back. 

    During their conversation, they discuss how to handle stress and anxiety, the importance of trust in leadership, and the importance of pausing and slowing down.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 33:



    “We can want to change the world. But we should enjoy our life while trying to change the world.”

    “Do real things.”

    “I don’t check my phone first thing in the morning anymore.”

    “The average person spends 93% of life indoors.”

    “We are all faking it to some degree to another.”

    “We are all broken. What matters is what we do with our brokenness.”

    “My mistake as a young leader was too much, too fast.”

    “God is going to do some things in your 20’s that don’t look related to your career or success. But it is shaping your character. And you’re going to want that in your 50.”

    “God humbles us to exalt us.”

    “One of the greatest costs of leadership is loneliness. Invite others into it and share the leadership.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    Get Your Life Back by John Eldredge

    Wild at Heart by John Eldredge

    Captivated by Stasi and John Eldredge

    Victory Over the Darkness by Neil T. Anderson

    Smarter, Faster, Better by Charles Duhigg

    Destiny of the Republic by Candace Millard

    River of Doubt by Candace Millard

    Deep Work by Cal Newport 

    The Shallows by Nicholas Carr

    The Horse and His Boy by C.S. Lewis

    The One Minute Pause App













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 54 min
    Unseen Leadership Episode 32: Ellie Holcomb on Leading with Authenticity

    Unseen Leadership Episode 32: Ellie Holcomb on Leading with Authenticity

    In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Jenaye White are joined by Ellie Holcomb who is a Dove award-winning singer/songwriter and author of two children’s books titled Who Sang the First Song, and her brand new kids book Don't Forget to Remember, available now.

    During their conversation, they discuss how to lead with authenticity, how the creative process works, and how God’s plans are better than our own.

    QUOTES FROM EPISODE 32:



    “Music is a bridge builder. There is something about music that connects our story to someone else’s story, even if it is very different.”

    “I’ve had to learn to be who I am and to own my own story and to own my own pain.”

    “God didn’t come to make bad people good people. He came to make dead people alive people.”

    “Don’t let fear dictate your decision making and pay attention to what makes your heart beat fast and come alive.”

    “When I feel like I’m leading well, it is usually from a place of vulnerability and owning what I’m not good at.”



    RESOURCES MENTIONED

    Don't Forget to Remember by Ellie Holcomb

    Who Sang the First Song by Ellie Holcomb

    The Road Back to You by Ian Morgan Cron

    The Gifts of Imperfection by Brené Brown

    Rising Strong by Brené Brown













    For more than 25 years, Portable Church® has helped thousands of churches launch strong and thrive in a mobile setting. We design custom solutions that fit each budget, vision, and venue. Everything you need to launch a mobile church — an inviting worship space, kids ministry areas, welcome spaces, storage cases, etc — all in a system refined to make it fast, easy & fun for the weekly volunteer teams. See what this looks like by visiting portablechurch.com/lifeway.

    • 38 min

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A must listen for leaders

I have been so blessed and challenged by this podcast. These guys have done a great job pulling leaders from many different organizations to help unpack normal leadership challenges from a variety of altitudes and angles. I highly recommend it!

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Amazing podcast! Thank you for all the leaders who contribute on here & for lifeway hosting & setting this all up!

Are y’all still doing podcasts for this - been awhile since one was released. Or are y’all taking a break?

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I just found this podcast a week or so ago. I love it. It’s great to hear others journey. I also enjoy the variety of guests - I’m learning about people I’ve never heard of!

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