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Upside Down Podcast is an ecumenical podcast at the intersection of justice, spirituality, and culture. Join us for conversations about God's Upside Down Kingdom. No topic is off limits. Upside Down Podcast is a collaborative Christian podcast co-founded by Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace. Some of our most popular guests have included Christena Cleveland, Dr. John Perkins, Shane Claiborne, Jo Saxton, Father Greg Boyle, Shannan Martin, and Dominique Gilliard. Popular episodes have featured the enneagram, gentrification, nonviolence, vocations and callings, immigration, and more. Upside Down is proud to be an ecumenical podcast, bridging the gap between Catholic and Protestant thought. Visit www.upsidedownpodcast.com or follow us on Instagram at @upsidedownpodcast.

Upside Down Podcast Kayla Craig, Lindsy Wallace, Patricia Taylor, Alissa Molina

    • Religion & Spirituality
    • 4.8 • 253 Ratings

Upside Down Podcast is an ecumenical podcast at the intersection of justice, spirituality, and culture. Join us for conversations about God's Upside Down Kingdom. No topic is off limits. Upside Down Podcast is a collaborative Christian podcast co-founded by Kayla Craig and Lindsy Wallace. Some of our most popular guests have included Christena Cleveland, Dr. John Perkins, Shane Claiborne, Jo Saxton, Father Greg Boyle, Shannan Martin, and Dominique Gilliard. Popular episodes have featured the enneagram, gentrification, nonviolence, vocations and callings, immigration, and more. Upside Down is proud to be an ecumenical podcast, bridging the gap between Catholic and Protestant thought. Visit www.upsidedownpodcast.com or follow us on Instagram at @upsidedownpodcast.

    Season 6 | Episode 90: Nevertheless, We Persisted

    Season 6 | Episode 90: Nevertheless, We Persisted

    What does it mean to persist these days, and what do we desire to persist toward? Co-hosts Lindy Wallace, Kayla Craig, Alissa Molina, and Patricia Taylor kick off our sixth season with a conversation about the long game of persistence and why we’re still here.
    In this episode, we:
    Talk about why we’re still showing up on this “little podcast that could” Dig into the meaning of persistence: how it’s both opposing something and imagining how it could be betterDiscuss how the definition of persisting has been twisted and weaponized in toxic ways that are detrimental to our health and well-beingAsk ourselves the question, “What are we persisting toward?” What is the endgame we are reaching for?Dive into how persistence intersects with rest, how both are acts of resistance, and the invitation to join the long line of those who have resisted before usConsider how persisting can be an act of self-discovery, empowering us to get to the truer version of ourselves by identifying what we say yes or no toGive you a bit of a teaser about this season’s offeringsJoin us as we launch Season 6 with the theme of persistence. Our hope is that you come away inspired to go with intention and take heart that to persist is to imagine something beautifully just and whole for everyone. 
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Check out Iris Chen of Untigering on Instagram.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too. You can find us individually at @patricia_a_taylor, @kayla_craig, @alissarmolina, and @lindsy.wallace.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 50 min
    Season 5 | Episode 89: The Necessity of Rest

    Season 5 | Episode 89: The Necessity of Rest

    What brings you rest? Is it something that’s easy for you to embrace, or do you find yourself struggling with it? Co-hosts Kayla Craig, Alissa Molina, and Patricia Taylor talk about the need for rest—to nourish ourselves and to love one another—in our final episode of the season. 
    In this episode, we:
    Discuss how rest can be a struggle when it is often considered selfish or something to be earned instead of an innate needAcknowledge that rest is an act of resistance against grind culture and even the Western church’s culture of production and productivityAsk each other what it takes to be able to say we are worthy of rest and to believe itConsider the interconnectedness of rest: when we fill ourselves up through our rest, that frees us and creates margin to give so that others may experience restTalk about what’s at stake when we don’t rest and how our refusal to rest is a refusal to rest in GodWonder what it looks like for us to take cues from our bodies and the physical life around us and grow in awareness of those invitations to restJoin us as we conclude our fifth season with this conversation about the necessity of rest. We hope it speaks to you and encourages you to regard this act as loving and essential to the well-being of yourself and those around you. 
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Savoring this quote: “God's creation is a life-giving inhale for all of us, and Sabbath is the exhale.” ― Shelly Miller, Rhythms of Rest: Finding the Spirit of Sabbath in a Busy WorldAnd this one, also from Shelly Miller: “Extravagant wastefulness in time might prove the most productive thing you choose for yourself.”Add “‘All of Your Ways Are Peace” by The Porter’s Gate to your playlist and soak it in.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too. You can find us individually at @patricia_a_taylor, @kayla_craig, @alissarmolina, and @lindsy.wallace.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 52 min
    Season 5 | Episode 88: The Necessity of Connection

    Season 5 | Episode 88: The Necessity of Connection

    How do you begin to reconnect with your community after over a year of wading through the collective heaviness of a global pandemic? Co-hosts Lindsy Wallace, Alissa Molina, and Kayla Craig gather to connect and reflect on where we are and where we’ve been. 
    In this episode, we:
    Acknowledge the importance and exhaustion of connecting and how we have to relearn how to connect with no road map for these timesCheck in with each other: how are we really doing after over a year of living through the pandemic (on top of the pandemic of white supremacy, the effects of climate change, and so on)?Ask each other what we are lamenting and grieving, as well as what practices and rhythms have been helpful throughout this timeDiscuss what we are processing: the hard reset some of us have experienced in the wake of the pandemic, stories and voices that have been amplified, and moreShare who we are paying more attention to and whose voices we are pruningTalk about what is giving us hope and the growth that we’re seeing in the cracks in the sidewalksJoin us for this honest conversation as we do some processing of the past year together. Our hope is that as we model connection together, you’ll be encouraged to pursue connection in your own life as well.  
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Follow Black Liturgies by Cole Arthur Riley on Instagram and soak in her prophetic words.Add Undrowned By Alexis Pauline Gumbs to your summer reading list.Check out Here for It: Or, How to Save Your Soul in America; Essays By R. Eric Thomas.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 53 min
    Season 5 | Episode 87: The Necessity of Accountability with Tiffany Bluhm

    Season 5 | Episode 87: The Necessity of Accountability with Tiffany Bluhm

    “Silence is not spiritual, and action is not optional.” Author, speaker, and podcast host Tiffany Bluhm talks with host Patricia Taylor about accountability and abuse—particularly in faith spaces—and the hard questions we must ask.
    TW: This episode covers spiritual abuse, though it does not go into specific details. Still, we want to allow listeners whose stories may include abuse to be aware of what’s coming.
    In this episode, we:
    Discuss Tiffany’s latest book, Prey Tell: Why We Silence Women Who Tell the Truth and How Everyone Can Speak UpTalk about how women are expected to “play by the rules” set by culture, society, and the churchCover the gaslighting that happens when speaking truth, the weaponization of scripture, and the insulation of men in powerAsk why abuse happens so often in faith spaces and what elements allow for thisConsider how many of us don’t want to believe that we can offer our trust to an untrustworthy leader, leading to silence and complicityDiscuss the systemic nature of abuse, what it takes to dismantle those systems, and the cost of speaking up and speaking outTalk about how Jesus addressed the powerful and their abuse of authority while leveling hierarchies and ushering in equity Join us for this discussion about taking an honest look at abuse and what it takes to pursue love as justice. We invite you to lean into the liberating and healing ways of Jesus as we expand and challenge the familiar if it’s not leading us closer to love. 
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Check out Tiffany’s website and follow her on Instagram.Have you grabbed your copy of “Prey Tell” yet? Find it here! This post about spiritual abuse from Reclaiming My Theology. An encouragement from K.J. Ramsey, as well as this wisdom.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 46 min
    Season 5 | Episode 86: The Necessity of (Kingdom) Economics

    Season 5 | Episode 86: The Necessity of (Kingdom) Economics

    Is there truly enough for everyone, and do we really believe there is abundance? Hosts Alissa Molina, Patricia Taylor, Kayla Craig, and Lindsy Wallace discuss what it means to live out of a posture of abundance in a world that has conditioned us to believe in scarcity. 
    In this episode, we:
    Talk about how we seem to embrace the concept of spiritual abundance yet struggle with the idea of abundance of what we have in this world Discuss how the mindset of scarcity is incompatible with what we profess to believe and how the economic system of our culture thrives on a scarcityDive into how we shift what we believe “enough” means and how much we needConsider whether or not our economic system is an idol and a place from which we draw our sense of securityCover the impact that grind culture, meritocracy, and white supremacy have on our relationships, time, priorities, and moreJoin us for this thought-provoking conversation about kingdom economics. We hope that it catalyzes honest conversations with your community related to stewardship and taking a posture of abundance together.
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Lindsy quoted a snippet from The Biblical Vision of Sabbath Economics by Ched Myers.Bookmark this poem by Jessica Faith Kantrowitz.Add Can't Even: How Millennials Became the Burnout Generation by Anne Helen Petersen to your reading list.We’re big fans of Money and Possessions by Walter Brueggemann.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 52 min
    Season 5 | Episode 85: The Necessity of Liberation with Danté Stewart

    Season 5 | Episode 85: The Necessity of Liberation with Danté Stewart

    What does a liberated faith look like? Writer and speaker Danté Stewart talks with co-hosts Patricia Taylor and Lindsy Wallace about the meaning of liberation and how it impacts how we view God, ourselves, and the world.
    In this episode, we:
    Reflect on the complex, beautiful, and terrible journey of liberation, the changes we make along the way, and how we look at the world within ourselves and the world around usDiscuss the influence of writer and activist James Baldwin and the invitation from Baldwin to wrestle deeply and truthfullyTalk about the influence of Black womanist theologians and how they shape Danté’s understanding of liberationGo in depth about how liberation asks us to look at the story of Jesus and see the ways in which he invites us into a better story of God and ourselves than the stories many of us are offeredDiscuss the symbols, myths, and metaphors about God that we have inherited, and how those have oftentimes been incredibly limitedJoin us for this deep conversation with Danté about the significance of the word liberation and how it gives us the ability to narrate our story and have eyes to see an enlarged view of the world.
    News, Notes, and Links:
    Keep up with Danté’s work by checking out his website, following him on Instagram, and following him on Twitter. You can find the Instagram post we referenced here. The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin is essential reading.We can’t wait to read World of Wonders: In Praise of Fireflies, Whale Sharks, and Other Astonishments by Aimee Nezhukumatathil.Add these books to the stack: Critical Terms for Religious Studies by Mark C. Taylor, In Search of Our Mothers’ Garden by Alice Walker, and Said I Wasn’t Gonna Tell Nobody: The Making of a Black Theologian by James Cone.Support more conversations like this on Upside Down Podcast! Please visit us, where you can pledge a few dollars of monthly support to help us pay our bills and keep the conversations going.Learn more at Upside Down Podcast.We’re on Instagram, too.Join the Upside Down Together listener group on Facebook!Support the show (http://www.patreon.com/upsidedownpodcast)

    • 50 min

Customer Reviews

4.8 out of 5
253 Ratings

253 Ratings

Outlittleflock ,

Love that it feels like a conversation between friends!

I love this podcast and all that is shared as these 4 hosts converse together. I feel almost as if I’m listening in on a private conversation as they share their thoughts and experiences with their faith and what is required to be a part of Gods upside down kingdom. I am always inspired and leave wanting to dig deeper!

acrolli ,

Great Content and Community

It’s so nice to have a spiritual podcast that’s about loving our neighbors. In a time filled with prosperity gospel and christian nationalism, it’s a joy to have a group of women speaking truth about downward mobility and sacrificial love.

CTmom4 ,

Woke Christianity

I used to enjoy this podcast, but it seems to be trending towards woke ideology. Yikes. Unbiblical and unabashed leftist political leanings wrapped up in Christian language.

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