Vacation Bible School Podcast Jason Kirk, Emily Kirk

We are so freaking back. We're joined by Seattle University professor emeritus Wes Howard-Brook, author of works like Come Out My People: God's Call Out of Empire in the Bible and Beyond, to discuss:


King Solomon wasn't actually all that wise ...
... and the cutting-a-baby story isn't about what a great guy he was.
In fact, the Bible's authors meant for us to view Solomon as just another Exodus pharaoh!
How the David-Solomon story is The Godfather.
And a whole bunch of other stuff about the Bible's overarching theme of love vs. imperialism.

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Hello! Let's sprint through a big (but action-packed) portion of the Book of Samuel and then focus on the story of King David and Bathsheba.


Almost everything you've ever heard about this story has nothing to do with what's actually in the Bible, but what else is new?
Around the 40-minute mark, we're joined by creator April Ajoy (of TikTok, Instagram, the Evangelicalish podcast, and more) to discuss the way this story constantly gets argued about by the internet's angry Christian men. Plus we talk Rapture trauma, childhood persecution fantasies, and other fun stuff!!! To be clear, this is the fun part of the episode.
Let's also mostly wrap up the story of David, a boy who became a kingpin seemingly parodied by his own propaganda and just about the weirdest guy ever to pick as a supposed model for Jesus. His story's not quite done, but next time, we'll turn toward the original Finance Instagram bro: King Solomon.

Intro song: k.d. lang's cover of "Hallelujah"

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We're back in the Book of Samuel, starting in chapter 18, where giant-killer David meets Israel's other war hero, Prince Jonathan. To quote Taylor Swift, sparks fly. Platonic sparks, your Sunday school teacher assures you.


There's a case these two were just extremely affectionate political allies. That case has been made, and we're not very interested in it. 
Interpret this story however you want. We're completely convinced this was the Bible's first great romance. Thanks. 
We're also joined by popular YouTuber, podcaster, and theologian Mason Mennenga to discuss how this story is just one of many examples that show scripture reflects how we view it.
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Pre-intro: "The More I Seek You" as performed by Maple City Worship

Samuel chapter 17!


We've reached a Bible story everybody PRETTY MUCH knows, though there are still lots of fun details. It wasn't a slingshot, for one thing!
Goliath is the Statue of Liberty of Michael Jordans, David is Mr. Have It Both Ways, and King Saul's descent into madness ramps up right now! 
Emily is mostly concerned with whether this Philistine-Israelite war is cruelty-free toward animals.
We're excited to be joined by Andrew Whitehead, author of numerous works explaining the dangers of Christian Nationalism. Yep, this relates to how the David and Goliath story gets taught in church!
Is there praise for Five Iron Frenzy? Friend, this is an episode of the Vacation Bible School Podcast. Of course there's praise for Five Iron Frenzy.

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Samuel 7-16!


The Bible contains a LOT of genres. Uh-oh, you're now in the middle of a Machiavellian historical novel about Derek Zoolander! 
Time for our regular installment of Which Part Of This Story Will White Christian Americans Try To Contort Into Propaganda For White Christian America? 
Does this episode include weird math, exaggerated war stuff, confusing prophet behavior, confusing food rules, weird animal stuff, baffling arguments, the total eradication of tribes clearly not eradicated, and women hanging out by a well? It's a Bible episode, so duh! 
Know how you've been told you have to believe the Bible is perfect, inerrant, and handed down directly from God? Well, we recently dug some of this section's missing portions out of the ground, and half the translations disagree on how old its protagonist is, so maybe not! 
Samuel is the ... ... ... ... ... ... good guy in this story? Really? 
Meet David, simultaneously a humble Cinderella boy and a breathtaking Mary Sue warrior-poet! 

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We're entering a whole new chunk of the Bible, and it might be a surprise chunk!


Why we're now in Samuel instead of Ruth, the book that's up next according to Christian Bibles! 
Yet another barren womb! As always, when the Bible reuses a story, the variations are everything! 
The Bible's first usage of "the messiah" is a fine time to talk about how poorly the average Christian understands the old, complex, ever-evolving concept! 
Meet the original Typical Preacher's Kids! 
A war catastrophe leads to the Philistines capturing the Ark of the Covenant, which goes very terribly for the Philistines' g******s! 

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