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Join HookSlide and Rob Rogacki as they discuss the Detroit Tigers, advanced analytics, sabermetrics, minor league prospects, and more.

The Voice of the Turtle (Detroit Tigers podcast) Voice of the Turtle

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    • 4.7, 23 Ratings

Join HookSlide and Rob Rogacki as they discuss the Detroit Tigers, advanced analytics, sabermetrics, minor league prospects, and more.

    Episode 75: Recapping the Tigers Draft with Brian Sakowski

    Episode 75: Recapping the Tigers Draft with Brian Sakowski

    The 2018 MLB Draft is complete, the Tigers have made all of their much-anticipated picks, and now the one question one everyone's mind is this: is grape-flavored Big League Chew the best flavor of Big League Chew? Yes, it absolutely is. But the second biggest question on everyone's mind is "how well did the Tigers do in this draft?"
    For answers, The Voice of the Turtle turns once again to Brian Sakowski, National Scouting Supervisor for Perfect Game USA, and known lover of pineapple on pizza. We don't hold that against him, because his scouting skills are second to none.
    Casey Mize was almost a 100% sure pick at first overall, but how did the Tigers do in the rounds following that? They drafted a couple of high school outfielders in the first five rounds, which may not seem like the safest route, but perhaps there was more there than meets the eye.
    Oh, and let's not forget about that third-round pick, Kody Clemens, son of the famous Roger Clemens! No, he's not a hard-throwin pitcher like his dad, but he might be very valuable as a hard-hitting second-baseman.
    But seriously ... pineapple on pizza? Ugh, man, ok, whatever. Let's talk about the draft!
    Topics in this episode include:-Applying scouting grades to Two-Hearted Ale, pineapple on pizza, ketchup on hot dogs, and more-Victor Martinez should be hitting clean-up, stop complaining-Defining terms like "pitchability," "twitchy," "#JuCoRoute," "org type," and other scouting verbiage-Casey Mize was the best pick, even if he's not Stephen Strasburg-The Tigers drafted two high school outfielders -- good idea or nah?-Parker Meadows could be a star-What's the best comp for Kody Clemens? (Hint: it's not Ian Kinsler)-Who was the "wildcard" pick in this draft?-The Tigers signed a giant. Not a Giant. A giant.-Did the Tigers take more risks in this draft than in the past couple of years?-Were there any "sleeper picks" in this Tigers draft?-How many "Death-Rage" jerseys are the Whitecaps going to sell?-How to gauge value in the 9th round-Analyzing the Verlander trade almost a year later

    • 52 min
    Episode 74: Tigers Draft Party, with Brian Sakowski

    Episode 74: Tigers Draft Party, with Brian Sakowski

    The Tigers tanked hard last year and overcame long odds to become the worst team in baseball in 2017. They did that just for you, Tigers fans, so you could have some much-deserved excitement in 2018 as they finally, for the first time since 1997, have the first overall pick in the upcoming MLB amateur draft.
    So who should they pick at that Number One Slot? Who will they pick? There are lots of names on the board, and lots of buzz, but it helps to know what kind of talent is out there before we form our wildly over-confident opinions on what exactly should happen on June 4.
    To help us sort it all out, HookSlide is joined by Brian Sakowski of Perfect Game USA, in this our fifth annual pre-draft podcast. It's become a tradition every year since 2014 to have Brian on the show and share his insights into some of these otherwise unknown players, what they're projected to become, and where the Tigers will find the most value.
    Brian shares his thoughts on Casey Mize (widely believed to be the front-runner for the Tigers' first pick), as well as Joey Bart, Jarred Kelenic, Nick Madrigal, and players the Tigers would be wise to target in the second and third rounds.
    But wait! There's more! Brian and HookSlide also discuss the current state of Tigers prospects, how a scout would grade current Tigers players, and whether the arrival of Shohei Ohtani on the MLB scene means that more teams will be targeting two-way players in the future.
    All of that, plus listener questions, and you've got yourself a show that you won't want to miss!
    Topics in this episode include:- Is Casey Mize really worth taking as the first overall pick?- Should the Tigers draft more hard-throwing pitchers, or try to get position players?- Giving scouting grades to Joe Jimenez, JaCoby Jones, Nick Castellanos, and more- Drafting Victor Reyes in the Rule 5 Draft was actually a really smart move- Matt Manning is probably not going to be that good, unless he is- How to project to value of prospects based on their names- Is Reynaldo River just Stephen Moya in a different uniform?- Listener questions- And more!

    • 1 hr 21 min
    Episode 72: Tigers, Whitecaps, and Legends

    Episode 72: Tigers, Whitecaps, and Legends

    Welcome to the 2018 season of Tigers baseball, where mostly all you care about is rookies, prospects, and the rebuild process. At the time of this writing, the Tigers are currently getting routed by the Indians on the way to a 4-8 record, so let's forget about all of that and turn our attention to the minor leagues.
     
    In this episode, HookSlide is joined by Dan Hasty (on Twitter at @ThatDanHasty), play-by-play announcer for the Tigers' Single A affiliate, the West Michigan Whitecaps. (Spoiler: this is where the Tigers keep all their true talent stashed away.) Dan Hasty recently had the privilege of going to Lakeland for Spring Training to fill in for Dan Dickerson in the booth, joining Jim Price to call a couple of Tigers games, and he shares the details of that experience in this program.
     
    (Guys, he met Al Kaline. It's a great story, don't miss it.)
     
    Dan also shares his thoughts on how the Whitecaps are looking for the 2018 season (is a 6-1 start to the season good?), what players on the roster are most likely to push on through to the major league level, what it means as a minor-league broadcaster to have the new rules in place for starting a runner at second base in all extra-inning games, and why Lance Parrish has taken over as the Whitecaps manager this year.
     
    Topics in this episode include:
    - Al Kaline is an actual baseball god, and apparently controls the weather
    - What's it like to call a game with Jim Price in the booth?
    - Joe Jimenez might actually be looking better than he did with the Whitecaps
    - Is Daniel Norris ever going to tap into his potential?
    - New minor league rules: starting extra innings with a runner at 2nd might be a good thing
    - Why Elvin Rodriguez (acquired in the Justin Upton trade) is a pitcher to watch
    - The Tigers are paying attention to analytics, and it's already showing in the Whitecaps' games
    - Listener questions

    • 1 hr 4 min
    Episode 72: Exit Stage Left

    Episode 72: Exit Stage Left

    Well this is it, friends, it's our final episode of The Voice of the Turtle. All good things must come to an end eventually, so after three fun-filled years of Detroit Tigers podcasting, HookSlide and Rob are hanging up their cleats. A huge thank-you to all of our listeners, especially the ones who were there from the start and provided us with so much feedback and interaction. You truly were "the other half of the conversation!"
    Before we go, however, here's one last episode: HookSlide and Rob talk about the 2017 Tigers and whether this season can be considered a success in any way (spoiler: it can, if you squint). The team was long overdue to start a true rebuild, and 2017 pushed them -- finally and fully -- down that path. As a bonus, the team will get the first overall pick in the 2018 MLB draft, and we talk about why that's a really good thing, above and beyond the obvious "we'd like to have that first overall pick."
    We also talk about the end of the Ausmus Regime and what comes next, who the Tigers could and should hire, and whether that even matters for the immediate future. And of course, we tackle questions from our listeners, including "Why do you hate us?"
    Topics in this week's episode include:- Was 2017 a good year for the Tigers?- It's never too early to think about the 2018 MLB draft- Favorite memories from recent years of Tigers' dominance- Why Rob really, really needs the Houston Astros to win the World Series- Brad Ausmus is out, and probably all of his coaches with him -- now what?- Just how brutal is 2018 going to be?

    • 58 min
    Episode 71: This is better than no baseball

    Episode 71: This is better than no baseball

    Have you tuned out on the 2017 Detroit Tigers? We here at The Voice of the Turtle don't blame you. The Tigers have fallen well behind the pack in the AL playoff race, and are now playing for 2018 and beyond. Victor Martinez is on the disabled list again, Joe Jimenez is all out of whack, and Miguel Cabrera is a below replacement level player. Things suck.
    But baseball is still happening, and we're still going to watch.
    On this week's episode, Rob and HookSlide delve into everything that is going wrong with the Tigers right now. They explore what the injuries mean for this Tigers roster, speculate on Justin Upton's future in Detroit, and re-live the Brawl of the Century with the New York Yankees from last week. And since we can only take so much negativity, we also look at Mikie Mahtook's breakout and fawn over some of the Tigers' new prospects.
    Topics in this week's episode include:- Are you rooting for wins or losses?- Victor Martinez has a bad heart- Justin Upton: Tiger in 2018?- Justin Verlander is good again!- Miguel Cabrera is not- Is Mikie Mahtook for real?- Prospectzzzzz (and the Arizona Fall League rosters)- Listener questions!- Which new prospect are you most excited about?

    • 1 hr 12 min
    Episode 70: When it rains, it pours

    Episode 70: When it rains, it pours

    With the excitement of the trade deadline fading this week, it's time to turn our attentions to ... anything but actual Tigers baseball. This is a time for looking forward to the future, reflecting on the past, and drinking as much Two-Hearted Ale as it takes to survive the present. Ok, that may be a bit dramatic, but seriously, let's keep our eyes on the horizon.
    To help with all of that, HookSlide is joined by two special guests in this episode. "Skitch" is the most under-the-radar Tigers-based Twitter follow on the planet (follow him @SkitchP), and he brings a wealth of smart, rational, historically-rooted information to the show as we discuss the results of the trade deadline, assess the short tenure of Al Avila so far, recall a lot of players you've probably forgotten about, and try to avoid a massive rain storm.
    In the 7th Inning Kvetch, we chat with Tom Reisenweber, local sportswriter for the Tigers AA affiliate, the Erie SeaWolves. Tom catches us up on the latest influx of new talent, the progress of guys like Michael Gerber, Christin Stewart, Beau Burrows, and yes, Steven Moya, and evaluates the growing value of better coaching at the Tigers' minor league levels.
    Topics in this week's episode include:-Remember Melvin Nieves? Andy Van Hekken? Tim Belcher? Humberto Sánchez?-Playing a Fantasy Sports simulator doesn't make you smarter than a real GM-Justin Verlander's contract is a win-win-Why salary-dumping is a bad idea for the Tigers-"Let the kids play" may not be a great strategy-These are not your 2003 Tigers-Twitter made the Alex Avila trade happen-Two teams that need to be "disbanded and possibly executed"-It's ok to root for the Cubs now-The Tigers' minor league coaching is indeed getting better-Lance Parrish: X-Factor-Don't give up on Steven Moya just yet-When is Michael Gerber coming back???

    • 1 hr 27 min

Customer Reviews

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23 Ratings

23 Ratings

Matt in the Mitten ,

A welcome escape from Twitter and MLive commenters

Solid Tigers content with stats and info to back it up. Probably the best overall Tigers podcast on the internet.

RayPMcConnell ,

Excellent Podcast for Devoted Tigers Fans

This and Podcastellanos are my two favorite Tigers podcasts.

bigivima ,

this is the Tigers podcast you've been looking for

THE VOICE OF THE TURTLE is a great Tigers podcast. Hookslide (his real name!) and Rob Rogacki (obvious pseudonym) bring a lot of insight every week, with a healthy emphasis on advanced metrics and an eye on what's happening in the farm system. these guys look at the bigger picture for the club beyond the twitter #hottake du jour. they respect their listeners' intelligence but they don't take themselves too seriously.
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