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Powerful conversations and interviews about real life psychology, philosophy, psychedelics, spirituality, social dynamics and much more.

Our mission is to entertain, provoke, inform, and make you question everything you think you know.

Have you ever been on the wrong end of “office politics”?

Or lost out to less talented people who are better at “playing the game”?

Join us as we our explore Robert Greene’s provocative and compelling study of the 48 Laws of Power, in which he lays bare the psychological principles that ultimately shape all human relations.

Often seen as a handbook for the ‘modern Machiavelli’, we take a closer look at how understanding and implementing these Laws can actually enrich your life personally, professionally and spiritually.

Voices in the Dark Jon & Dre

    • Philosophy
    • 4.7, 38 Ratings

Powerful conversations and interviews about real life psychology, philosophy, psychedelics, spirituality, social dynamics and much more.

Our mission is to entertain, provoke, inform, and make you question everything you think you know.

Have you ever been on the wrong end of “office politics”?

Or lost out to less talented people who are better at “playing the game”?

Join us as we our explore Robert Greene’s provocative and compelling study of the 48 Laws of Power, in which he lays bare the psychological principles that ultimately shape all human relations.

Often seen as a handbook for the ‘modern Machiavelli’, we take a closer look at how understanding and implementing these Laws can actually enrich your life personally, professionally and spiritually.

    The Laws of Human Nature 7: Why Do You Want To Get Rich Quick?

    The Laws of Human Nature 7: Why Do You Want To Get Rich Quick?

    Why do people get caught up in wild and implausible conspiracy theories, get-rich-quick scams and other tantalising pyramid schemes? As we learn in this episode, even brainboxes like Isaac Newton can't seem to resist the excitement that so easily overcomes our better judgement when we think we can shortcut our way to success.
    And that's the problem – it's exciting. The danger comes from our emotions: we are caught in the present, enslaved to our immediate hopes and fears. Robert helps us to pause and draw back from the desire for immediate (re)action. We need to learn to play the long game and stop living in the now.
    This is a double-edged sword, though: we mustn't get stuck in over-planning things either, or we lose sight of what truly matters... Jon unpacks his own history of paralysis by analysis, while Andrea highlights the underlying problem: If you're constantly terrified of making The Wrong Decision, then you either never choose, or never feel you made the right call.
    But what about when it comes to other people? When we're quick to judge, are we going with our gut, or are we just seeing what we want to see? We take a look at some strategies and tools to tell the difference – and in the process save your relationships, friendships, and indeed yourself from dubious business opportunities.
    Along the way Jon and Andrea reflect on their own major f**k-ups and offend all of China.
    Also Including: Horse and Sparrow Economics How do make conscious choices about risk Cobras in Delhi Jon offends all of China The modern mentor hustle Get In Touch! Discuss the episode over on our Facebook Discussion Group And you can find us on Instagram and Twitter Or email us: hello@voicesinthedark.world Be Silly. Be Kind. Be Weird.

    • 1 hr 19 min
    Corona Chronicles: Conspiracies, Censorship and Life under Lockdown

    Corona Chronicles: Conspiracies, Censorship and Life under Lockdown

    It’s Week 4 of Lockdown in the UK and we’ve got the band back together. Well, the duo. Andrea and Jon are back in the virtual studio to make some sense of a world awash with fear, confusion, conspiracy theories and lots of very bad science.
    What does the coronavirus mean politically, socially and culturally? How far should the state be involved in tackling the crisis? Are Sweden’s fears justified that any kind of lockdown opens the door to a totalitarian state that’d somehow be far worse than mass death? Andrea breaks down the science and the numbers (bad news, Sweden – you’re f****d).
    Despite that, Andrea is unusually optimistic about the world that might come after the crisis. What if breaking our routines or an unreflective faith in capitalism might lead us to build a more balanced, compassionate civilisation? How might that happen, and dare we believe it’s even possible?
    What the hell is going on with David Icke and conspiracy theories about 5G? In times like these, it’s hard to know what to think, and in the UK the authorities are clamping down hard on these ideas. But what about free speech? What’s the difference between censorship and ‘no-platforming’? Should we be supporting the principle of free speech, or should we be getting misleading fools off the airwaves?
    Away from the media, what are you doing during lockdown? There’s a strange sense of pressure to be super creative – to start all those projects you’ve been putting off for a rainy day… but is it really so bad (or ‘unproductive’) to just sit on the couch and rest?
    We also ask what The Black Swan has to teach us about the present moment and whether outsourcing your moral compass makes you a monster (like Batman).
    LINKS COVID-19 Trends for Italy, Britain, USA and Sweden Graph of Confirmed COVID-19 deaths Graph of Confirmed COVID-19 deaths showing relative change GET IN TOUCH! And you can find us on Instagram and Twitter Or email us: hello@voicesinthedark.world BE SILLY. BE KIND. BE WEIRD.

    • 1 hr 36 min
    Coronavirus Cast – Laughing in the Dark

    Coronavirus Cast – Laughing in the Dark

    We're living through some damn strange times. We wanted to release something to stay connected with you and to share some thoughts on the current Coronavirus crisis and its effects.
    Jon shares an article he's written about the vital role of humour in helping us to cope with and make sense of crisis, and why all those dark memes you might feel guilty for laughing at are actually essential for keeping us connected and (more or less) sane.
    Let us know what you'd like to hear right now. Do you have questions, topics, or other ideas that can spur is into recording action! Drop us a line:
    Get In Touch! And you can find us on Instagram and Twitter Or email us: hello@voicesinthedark.world Be Silly. Be Kind. Be Weird.

    • 30 min
    The Laws of Human Nature 6: Why Are You Always Dissatisfied?

    The Laws of Human Nature 6: Why Are You Always Dissatisfied?

    In this episode, Robert Greene forces us to confront our inherently covetousness nature: we always want what we don't have. And yet, if we do get those things, we rapidly fall out of love with them. Why does possessing something make our enjoyment of it fade? Why is the grass always greener on the other side, no matter how often we jump back and forth over the fence?
    Jon has experienced a lot of this recently. Nomadically wandering the globe was often stressful and demanding, and he found himself longing for stability and being closer to his friends. But, just a few months after settling back into the UK, he finds himself looking back at rose-tinted memories of life on the road. Context changes everything: the parts of us which are undernourished in any setting start to shout the loudest for attention. Is there a way to balance these competing desires?
    But this is about more than wanting physical things. We also do this with people! It's easy to become taken for granted if you make yourself too available to others; if you lay all your cards on the table; or if you act 100% predictably all the time. It's time to change things up and become more mysterious and elusive.
    This Law of Human Nature is closely connected to several of the 48 Laws of Power: Law 4: Always Say Less Than Necessary, Law 8: Make Other People Come to You – Use Bait if Necessary, and Law #16: Use Absence to Increase Respect & Honour. We humans just can't seem to help ourselves – when something seems scarce or just out of sight, we clamour to possess it, to unlock its mysteries.
    But what if being mysterious and playing games just isn't your nature? What if we're so bombarded these days by people being either ultra mysterious or ultra vulnerable that we're forgetting something crucial. We need to be more sensitive to context: tricks and tips about being mysterious and distant might work if you're playing networking or seduction games, but they are far less effective if you're trying to build deep interpersonal bonds. Doing a vanishing act and refusing to open up can be toxic for friendships, and, in truth, not even that good for business relationships (especially when dealing face-to-face).
    Ultimately, our innate covetousness – our desire for change and for more – can be harnessed for good. It can drive us to grow, to learn, to have new experiences and use our imaginations as a springboard into the future. The danger is that we just keeping looking for change and never enjoy what we have when we receive it
    People often say that, after climbing some kind of mountain in your life you realise it's lonely at the top. But wait a minute – what actually happens when you climb a mountain is an incredible, exhilarating sense of achievement and peace as you stop to take in the view. The trick is not to think about the next mountain, but to take the time to appreciate where you are, here and now.
     
    Also Including: Why Coco Chanel was the master of this Law Struggling to Say Less Than Necessary when asked direct questions Are crowds reassuring or terrifying? How money and the internet ruin everything Mysterious sex Get In Touch! Discuss the episode over on our Facebook Discussion Group And you can find us on Instagram and Twitter Or email us: hello@voicesinthedark.world Be Silly. Be Kind. Be Weird.

    • 1 hr 26 min
    What Happened To Culture?

    What Happened To Culture?

    This episode we get together to discuss a variety of topics, ultimately centring around the seeming decline of popular culture into endless sequels and entertainment-by-algorithm. Where did it all go wrong, and why are so many of us still comfort-eating the shit out of it?
    In the wake of the Golden Globes and the release of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood we pause to reflect on why so many contemporary films and TV shows are so unconvincing. In a world saturated by 'cultural content', are we (and the actors themselves) becoming trapped in a hall of mirrors, constantly trying to be self-referential rather than capturing the moment as it unfolds? Culture by algorithm is a s****y way to live, and we reflect instead on the joys of the artistic creations that we've loved and lost ourselves in.
     
    Also Including: The disturbing story of Britain's most prolific rapist What are 'Type A' and 'Type B' personalities – and do they matter? Why Jon is considering doing a nude photoshoot Andrea's distaste for The Rock Realising you're not everyone's cup of tea Get In Touch! Discuss the episode over on our Facebook Discussion Group And you can find us on Instagram and Twitter Or email us: hello@voicesinthedark.world Be Silly. Be Kind. Be Weird.

    • 1 hr 11 min
    That Time of Year...

    That Time of Year...

    After an unintentional hiatus, Jon and Andrea return for their seasonal year in review, where they reflect on what they've learnt, how their goals and values have changed, and what the goddamn hell might be next...
    This time we didn't quite manage to record in the bar of a 5-star hotel as we have in the past, but it was great to get behind the mics again and share what's been keeping us busy over the past few months.
    Jon has now finally moved to London (again), so more frequent episodes should be coming your way. So long as Andrea doesn't flee the country in the wake of Brexit, that is.
    Get In Touch! Discuss the episode over on our Facebook Discussion Group And you can find us on Instagram and Twitter Or email us: hello@voicesinthedark.world Be Silly. Be Kind. Be Weird.

    • 1 hr 15 min

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