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WE MAKE BOOKS is the only podcast to bring a publisher and an author for open and frank discussions about publishing in a way that discusses the concerns from both sides of the industry "table." New episodes publish twice each month.

Kaelyn Considine (@kindofkaelyn) is an acquiring editor for Parvus Press and as part of her position there, she reviews submissions, selects new books for purchase, and edits novels to get them ready for release.

Rekka (@bittybittyzap) writes genre fiction as R J Theodore. She has a series of SFF novels publishing through Parvus Press, and self-publishes other shorter books.

Together, Rekka and Kaelyn want to break down the divide between publishers and authors so everyone knows exactly where they should be focusing, and how best to work together for the successful book launches.

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WE MAKE BOOKS is the only podcast to bring a publisher and an author for open and frank discussions about publishing in a way that discusses the concerns from both sides of the industry "table." New episodes publish twice each month.

Kaelyn Considine (@kindofkaelyn) is an acquiring editor for Parvus Press and as part of her position there, she reviews submissions, selects new books for purchase, and edits novels to get them ready for release.

Rekka (@bittybittyzap) writes genre fiction as R J Theodore. She has a series of SFF novels publishing through Parvus Press, and self-publishes other shorter books.

Together, Rekka and Kaelyn want to break down the divide between publishers and authors so everyone knows exactly where they should be focusing, and how best to work together for the successful book launches.

    Episode 35 - Beware the Giant Mechanical Spiders! - Reevaluation: The Anniversary Episode

    Episode 35 - Beware the Giant Mechanical Spiders! - Reevaluation: The Anniversary Episode

    Hi everyone, and thank you for tuning in to another episode of the We Make Books Podcast - A podcast about writing, publishing, and everything in between!
    Can you believe that it’s already been a year since we dropped our first episode, because we sure can’t!  A whole trip around the Sun and what a long, strange trip it’s been.  There’s nothing quite like an anniversary to make you look back on what you’ve done and think about what you maybe could have done differently so in this episode, we decided to talk about retrospection and reevaluation.  Taking a step back to reassess your work is a really, really hard thing to do.  It requires you to put aside strong feelings and possibly favoritism that you might not realize you have toward parts of your writing.  But here’s the thing: sometimes those parts are important to you, aren’t important to the story and maybe even aren’t good for it.  It’s not always fun, and it’s certainly not easy, but reevaluating what you’ve written is a crucial part of the process and the best way to stomp out those pesky Giant Mechanical Spiders (listen to the episode and we promise that will make sense).
    We Make Books is hosted by Rekka Jay and Kaelyn Considine; Rekka is a published author and Kaelyn is an editor and together they are going to take you through what goes into getting a book out of your head, on to paper, in to the hands of a publisher, and finally on to book store shelves.
    We Make Books is a podcast for writers and publishers, by writers and publishers and we want to hear from our listeners! Hit us up on our social media, linked below, and send us your questions, comments, concerns, and a comprehensive description the largest mechanical spider you encountered and a detailed description of how you vanquished it.
    We hope you enjoy We Make Books!
    Twitter: @WMBCast  |  @KindofKaelyn  |  @BittyBittyZap
    Instagram: @WMBCast 
    Patreon.com/WMBCast
     
    Episode 35: Reevaluation Anniversary Episode
    transcribed by Sara Rose (@saraeleanorrose)
     
    [0:00]
     
    R: Welcome back to another episode of the We Make Books a podcast about writing, publishing, and everything in between. I’m Rekka. I write science fiction and fantasy as R.J. Theodore.
     
    K: And I’m Kaelyn Considine, I am the acquisitions editor for Parvus Press!
     
    R: And—
     
    K: This is a big deal! This episode.
     
    R: Kaelyn, it’s our anniversary!
     
    K: What did you get me?
     
    R: Beer. You’re drinking it.
     
    K: Yeah, no that’s—Great. Yes, I am drinking a beer. Um, technically it’s the paper episode—technically it’s the paper anniversary.
     
    R: So the label on your beer.
     
    K: Oh, okay. That works. I was—
     
    R: Which, actually, I did not buy you. I lied. I’m sorry. I bought you the socks you’re wearing, though.
     
    K: That’s a good point, yeah.
     
    R: On our anniversary episode we are wearing matching socks!
     
    K: Yes! I was gonna get you a book for the anniversary.
     
    R, touched: Were you really?
     
    K: Paper anniversary. You know, that sounds like a good one. There may or may not be something in the mail for you. Right now.
     
    R: Which book?
     
    K: I can’t tell you, it’d ruin the surprise and surprise is, of course, that keeps our relationship alive.
     
    [both laugh]
     
    R: I thought it was the mechanical spiders that kept our relationship alive.
     
    K: Okay, first of all! You know how I feel about the mechanical spiders!
     
    R: And everyone else is about to.
     
     K: And everyone else is about to, so I apologize in advance. Yeah, so it’s been a year! That’s crazy.
     
    R: Um. I like it.
     
    K: I like it, too! Just think about a year ago, I came up to visit you for the first time. I met your various animals, there were other animals—
     
    R: —and family members, yep.
     
    K: Family members! There were other animals out in the pond.
     
    R: Did we barbecue the very first time? I feel like may

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    Episode 34 - Making Characters Kiss - Romance with Alexandra Rowland

    Episode 34 - Making Characters Kiss - Romance with Alexandra Rowland

    Hi everyone, and thank you for tuning in to another episode of the We Make Books Podcast - A podcast about writing, publishing, and everything in between!
    This week we have something a little different lined up.  As Rekka is recovering, we wanted to give her a break wherever possible and so for this episode, we are happy to bring you an episode of Rekka's previous podcast: The Hybrid Author.  In this episode, Rekka interviews Alexandra Rowland, author of "A Conspiracy of Truths" and one of the hosts of the Hugo-nominated podcast 'Be the Serpent'.  Alex and Rekka spend this episode talking romance and all of the ways to incorporate it into your story.  It can be an awkward part of the writing process but it doesn't have to be!  Alex has a lot of advice and insight into the process of making your characters kiss and they won't even make you blush while telling you how! 
    You can (and should) check out Alex on their social media, which is linked below.
    We Make Books is hosted by Rekka Jay and Kaelyn Considine; Rekka is a published author and Kaelyn is an editor and together they are going to take you through what goes into getting a book out of your head, on to paper, in to the hands of a publisher, and finally on to book store shelves.
    We Make Books is a podcast for writers and publishers, by writers and publishers and we want to hear from our listeners! Hit us up on our social media, linked below, and send us your questions, comments, concerns, and the most uncomfortable "romantic" exchange you were forced to enure in a book or movie.  Don't hold back, bring the cringe!
    We hope you enjoy We Make Books!
    Twitter: @WMBCast  |  @KindofKaelyn  |  @BittyBittyZap
    Instagram: @WMBCast 
    Patreon.com/WMBCast
     
    Find Alex at:
    https://www.alexandrarowland.net
    Twitter: @_alexrowland
    Instagram: @ _alexrowland
    https://www.patreon.com/_alexrowland
     
     
    Episode 34: Making Characters Kiss with Alexandra Rowland
    transcribed by Sara Rose (@saraeleanorrose)
     
    [0:00]
     
    K: Hey everyone! Welcome to another episode of the We Make Books podcast, a show about writing, publishing, and everything in between. I’m Kaelyn Considine and I’m the acquisitions editor for Parvus Press. 
     
    R: And I’m Rekka. I write science fiction and fantasy as R.J. Theodore. 
     
    K: And, uh, this episode is a throwback. It’s a throwback so far that it predates our podcast!
     
    R: Yes! [laughs] Many of you may know that I previously hosted, or co-hosted and then solo-hosted, a podcast called Hybrid Author. I lost my co-host and it wasn’t really fun doing it by myself, so when Kaelyn made herself available to become a co-host on an entirely new podcast, I was all too eager to jump ship. But there were some good tidbits on that podcast, including a couple of interviews that, now that we’ve needed to come up with some additional back-up episodes, for whatever’s going on in my health and treatment and everything like that—
     
    K: Rekka’s recovering and just to make sure that everyone’s healthy and—
     
    R: That we have options, you know.
     
    K: —not straining themselves, we thought this would be a great episode to put out there. So Alex Rowland is a published author of two books, right now, called A Conspiracy of Truths and A Choir of Lies, and they came on this podcast to discuss writing romance with Rekka.
     
    R: Yes! Well, not this podcast, as we’ve already mentioned.
     
    K: Oh, yeah. Sorry.
     
    R: But, yes, Conspiracy of Truths was out when Alex recorded this. This was actually recorded on February 5th, 2019. So that’s where this falls in the whole realm of time. And A Choir of Lies, as I was speaking to Alex, had just had its cover reveal that morning on Barnes and Noble’s website. So that’s where we were in time, was February 5th, 2019. But it was a good conversation with Alex. One of the things I realized is that we call this a podcast abo

    • 57 min
    Episode 33 - Artistic Integrity and Suffering For Your Art

    Episode 33 - Artistic Integrity and Suffering For Your Art

    Hey kids! Are you ready to sell out to make cash fast?! 
    In today's episode of We Make Books, we discuss what artistic integrity is, how to tell if you've blown yours to smithereens, and why it's 100% okay and good to make a living from your art.
    We Make Books is hosted by Rekka Jay and Kaelyn Considine; Rekka is a published author and Kaelyn is an editor and together they are going to take you through what goes into getting a book out of your head, on to paper, in to the hands of a publisher, and finally on to book store shelves.
    We Make Books is a podcast for writers and publishers, by writers and publishers and we want to hear from our listeners! Hit us up on our social media, linked below, and send us your questions, comments, and concerns.
    Stay safe everyone!
    We hope you enjoy We Make Books!
    Twitter: @WMBCast  |  @KindofKaelyn  |  @BittyBittyZap
    Instagram: @WMBCast 
    Patreon.com/WMBCast
     
    Episode 33: Artistic Integrity and Suffering For Your Arttranscribed by Sara Rose (@saraeleanorrose)[0:00]K: Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of We Make Books, a show about writing, publishing, and everything in between! I’m Kaelyn Considine and I am the acquisitions editor for Parvus Press.R: And I’m Rekka, I write science fiction and fantasy as R.J. Theodore.K: And, Rekka, as a writer—R: Which I am! Totally.K: Which you are, yeah, of course you are. You probably have a lot of opinions about what people tell you— R: Everything.K: Well, yeah, a lot of things in general. But, specifically, about other people’s opinions and them giving you suggestions and guidance and thoughts about what you should do, not only with your writing, but your life and how to support your continued writing, in your life.R, unenthused: Yeah. Yeah, they do that. So, you’re gonna intermix with a lot of people’s opinions over the course of your writing career. Especially as you let other people read your work. K: So today we’re talking about artistic integrity.R: Right. When people tell you to change stuff, where do you plant your feet?K: Not only people telling you to change stuff, however, also what you’re doing with your life in the meantime to support your art.R: Mhm.K: We were thinking about this episode and thinking about this idea of what does it truly mean to be a writer?R: Mhm.K: And we start far clear of that definition—Or, we really steer clear of that conversation because I, personally, am of the opinion that if you are trying to write something professionally, that makes you a writer.R: Correct. I also agree with you.K: Yes, so now that we’ve got that established.R: If you’re listening to this podcast and then, when it’s done, you go and you try to work on your writing, you are a writer.K: You are a writer. Congratulations.R: If you just listen to this podcast and you think about writing and you never go write. Uh, we might have to debate that one.K: You’re a… future writer.R: Yes, hopefully. Hopefully an aspiring writer.K: Yes, there you go.R: To be a writer without a modifier, is to write.K: There ya go. But there’s also a lot of conversation around, like, well if you’re doing this then you’re not serious about your writing career. If you’re, you know, not focused 100% on only writing, then how could you be serious about your writing career?R: Which is funny, you know, because it just occurred to me—we don’t cover this in the episode—but I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been at a family gathering, speaking of opinions, where they find out I’m a writer and they say, “Oh you should write _____.” Children’s book. A Gone Girl. You know, whatever’s hot at the moment. Their opinion is you’ve gotta write the most commercial thing that I’ve actually heard of right now.K: Yeah, yeah. So there’s—You’re gonna run up against a lot of this stuff in your career, as you i

    • 39 min
    Episode 32 - Ulterior and Often Nefarious Motives - Book Piracy

    Episode 32 - Ulterior and Often Nefarious Motives - Book Piracy

    Hi everyone, and thank you for tuning in to another episode of the We Make Books Podcast - A podcast about writing, publishing, and everything in between!
    This week we’re talking about pirates and sadly, not those of the Caribbean variety.  The internet is littered with websites that sell (or claim to give away) pirated copies of books and addressing this situation can be a long and daunting process.  In this episode we talk about what kind of websites your book could end up on, what it is that the people that run them are after, and how to get your book taken down should pirates get ahold of it … this unfortunately involved a lot less of the ‘bribe them with rum’ tactic that we had hoped.
    We Make Books is hosted by Rekka Jay and Kaelyn Considine; Rekka is a published author and Kaelyn is an editor and together they are going to take you through what goes into getting a book out of your head, on to paper, in to the hands of a publisher, and finally on to book store shelves.
    We Make Books is a podcast for writer and publishers, by writers and publishers and we want to hear from our listeners! Hit us up on our social media, linked below, and send us your questions, comments, concerns, and if you’ve been spending your days in quarantine baking, tell us what you’ve made and stay safe everyone!
    We hope you enjoy We Make Books!
    Twitter: @WMBCast  |  @KindofKaelyn  |  @BittyBittyZap
    Instagram: @WMBCast 
    Patreon.com/WMBCast
     
     
    Rekka (00:00):
    Welcome back to another episode of we make books a show about writing, publishing and everything in between. I'm Rekka, I write science fiction and fantasy as RJ Theodore.
    New Speaker (00:10):
    And I'm Kaelyn. I am the acquisitions editor for Parvus Press.
    New Speaker (00:13):
    So I know I've made a big Kaelyn.
    Kaelyn (00:17):
    Yeah, I mean I've done that for awhile, but, uh, is there any specific reason -
    Rekka (00:21):
    The day that I got the Google search term alert that my book had shown up on a pirate site, that's how I knew I'd made it.
    Kaelyn (00:28):
    It is a, it is a little bit of a marker in your career, isn't it?
    Rekka (00:32):
    Bingo square. I mean, like, it's not like I'm not gonna do anything about it, but, uh, you know, before I turn around and forward that email to my publisher and say, Hey, just so you know, please go take care of this. Um, I did bask in the having arrived-ness of that moment.
    Kaelyn (00:48):
    Yeah. It's, um, it's, you know, what did they say? SNL, Sesame street. Those are the big markers in your career.
    Rekka (00:54):
    I haven't made that one yet. I haven't done any of those pirated website, so I'm not, today we're talking about pirates, but not the awesome kind, not the kind in my books, the kind to take my books.
    Kaelyn (01:08):
    The kinds who take books and um, you know, put them on the website for all to, to read without paying for them, which as I think we've, you know, if you've listened to any of our previous episodes, we obviously come down very strongly against.
    Rekka (01:21):
    We don't like it .
    Kaelyn (01:29):
    Yeah. Kind of against that for various reasons. This was, a listener sent us this question, you know, asking about, um, pirates pirate websites, what you can do to prevent that from happening and what to do if it does happen. So, um, no, I think that's a pretty, there's a as much of a comprehensive walkthrough
    Rekka (01:38):
    Yeah. I mean, yeah, the problem itself is pretty simple. It's the solution that's kind of a bear. Yeah, exactly.
    Kaelyn (01:50):
    So anyway, uh, take a listen and um, as always, we hope you enjoy it
    Speaker 3 (02:08):
    [inaudible]
    Kaelyn (02:11):
    Well, I think we're getting this remote recoder thing, kind of uh, we're doing okay, right?
    Rekka (02:14):
    Hey, we're not coughing and we have no difficulty breathing, so it's a good song. We're a step ahead of a lot of other people at this point.
    Kaelyn (02:24):
    So, Hey e

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    Episode 31 - An Overabundance of Caution - Coping with Personal Setbacks

    Episode 31 - An Overabundance of Caution - Coping with Personal Setbacks

    Hi everyone, and thank you for tuning in to another episode of the We Make Books Podcast - A podcast about writing, publishing, and everything in between!
    This week’s episode is little bit different.  Apart from the state of the world, Rekka has some personal news that she’d like to update everyone on. This, of course, leads to our topic for the week which is personal setbacks. When there is major event or change in your life, how do you cop and how do you keep writing? When is it time to take a step back and consider stopping?  No one can answer those questions for you, but on this episode we talk about our own personal experience and offer some advice. We are all living in uncertain and while it is often frightening and overwhelming, we can all be there for each other with help and support as we adjust to our new normals.
    We Make Books is hosted by Rekka Jay and Kaelyn Considine; Rekka is a published author and Kaelyn is an editor and together they are going to take you through what goes into getting a book out of your head, on to paper, in to the hands of a publisher, and finally on to book store shelves.
    We Make Books is a podcast for writer and publishers, by writers and publishers and we want to hear from our listeners! Hit us up on our social media, linked below, and send us your questions, comments, concerns, and your favorite way you are passing the time while social distancing and sheltering in place – stay safe everyone!
    We hope you enjoy We Make Books!
    Twitter: @WMBCast  |  @KindofKaelyn  |  @BittyBittyZap
    Instagram: @WMBCast 
    Patreon.com/WMBCast
     
    Kaelyn (00:00):
    Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of we make books a show about writing, publishing and everything in between. I'm Kaelyn Considine, I'm the acquisitions editor for Parvus Press.
    New Speaker (00:08):
    And I'm Rekka, I write science fiction and fantasy as RJ Theodore.
    Kaelyn (00:12):
    And uh, this is going to be a very short intro because of the beginning of the show is kind of the intro. Um, the theme for today is, I'm sure you can tell from the title of the episode is we're talking about personal setbacks and um, Rekka has been experiencing some of those. So rather than spend a lot of time talking about the episode right now, we're just going to jump right into it and uh, give Rekka a chance to kind of give everyone an update on some things that have been going on in her life.
    New Speaker (00:37):
    So slight pause for music.
    Speaker 2 (00:46):
    [inaudible]
    Kaelyn (00:52):
    Okay. And we're back. Not that we ever went too far to begin with -
    New Speaker (00:58):
    Except this time you didn't even bother coming over to my house to record.
    Kaelyn (01:02):
    It's true. You may notice that, uh, this episode sounds a little different in two ways. One is that we are recording over the interwebs.
    New Speaker (01:11):
    Due to an overabundance of caution.
    Kaelyn (01:14):
    An over abundance of caution. There's two reasons for this. One obviously is coronavirus Hey, yeah, everyone is self isolating. Um, I as I'm sure those who have listened before know I live in New York city. Um, things here are mostly fine, however they are kind of recommending that we all may have been exposed and not be aware of it. So to kind of keep your interaction with other people to a minimum.
    New Speaker (01:41):
    Yeah. Plus trains are kind of filthy to begin with and Kaelyn getting on a train concerned me for Kaelyn's sake, but also what might come along with her.
    Kaelyn (01:50):
    And that was a particular concern for Rekka.
    Rekka (01:54):
    I am now immuno-compromised.
    Kaelyn (01:56):
    Rekka is officially immuno-compromised. at this point. Um, so for those of you who, you know, follow Rekka on Twitter or maybe even follow her on Facebook if you're involved in her writing groups, um, Rekka has been posting us some information with some health updates, but I'm not, not too much.

    • 46 min
    Episode 30 - Filters and Blockers and Mute Buttons, Oh My! - The Importance of Boundaries with Miri Baker

    Episode 30 - Filters and Blockers and Mute Buttons, Oh My! - The Importance of Boundaries with Miri Baker

    Hi everyone, and thank you for tuning in to another episode of the We Make Books Podcast - A podcast about writing, publishing, and everything in between!
    It’s our first return guest! Miri Baker joins us again this week to talk about something we should all have in our lives: boundaries.  It’s not a secret that the world is overwhelming and constantly vying for you attention.  But even things that you love like social media and writing groups can start to have a negative impact on your life if they’re not kept under control.  In this week’s episode, we talk about when doing one more thing becomes doing too much, the impact it can have your mental and emotional health, and what some things that we do to keep ourselves from exhaustion.
    We Make Books is hosted by Rekka Jay and Kaelyn Considine; Rekka is a published author and Kaelyn is an editor and together they are going to take you through what goes into getting a book out of your head, on to paper, in to the hands of a publisher, and finally on to book store shelves.
    We Make Books is a podcast for writer and publishers, by writers and publishers and we want to hear from our listeners! Hit us up on our social media, linked below, and send us your questions, comments, concerns, and how much toilet paper you have stashed away for the coming months.
    We hope you enjoy We Make Books!
    Twitter: @WMBCast  |  @KindofKaelyn  |  @BittyBittyZap
    Instagram: @WMBCast 
    Patreon.com/WMBCast
    Find Miri at:
    Twitter: @MiriBaker
    Website: https://miribaker.com
    And find the maker of Miri’s amazing shirt at:
    https://www.caramcgee.com
     
     
     
     
     
    Rekka (00:00:00):
    So when I say welcome back to, We Make Books. I'm not talking to you listener this time. I'm saying welcome back to we make books to Miri Baker.
    Kaelyn (00:00:08):
    Joining us again.
    Rekka (00:00:09):
    Joining us for a second time.
    Kaelyn (00:00:11):
    Our first return guest.
    Rekka (00:00:12):
    Triumphant return.
    Kaelyn (00:00:13):
    Yes.
    Rekka (00:00:14):
    Um, Miri joins us today to talk about something that is very difficult for me to hear. Let's be real.
    Kaelyn (00:00:24):
    Something that's difficult for a lot of people here, a lot of people to talk about, a lot of people to implement and that today is boundaries.
    Rekka (00:00:30):
    Personal boundaries in your professional writing life. You need them. And Miri's got a lot of tips and a lot of -
    Kaelyn (00:00:40):
    Thoughts.
    Rekka (00:00:41):
    Auntie concerns and um, yeah, this is really, this is one of those things that isn't going to come up a lot in like professional discussions. But as soon as you start getting a little bit on like the emotional level, I think a lot of our emotional problems and our stresses related to this industry do come a lot from I boundaries we set or fail to set.
    Kaelyn (00:01:09):
    Yeah. I think a lot of people are going to hear things in this episode that are going to hit home that they didn't realize were things that they needed to think or consider.
    Rekka (00:01:19):
    We apologize if you feel personally attacked. You aren't being personally attacked.
    Kaelyn (00:01:22):
    No one is being personally attacked. Um, but Miri was on, um, or previous, it was episode 21 I believe. um talking about community and when we had her back on to talk about, you know, something else, uh, this kind of seems like a good counterpoint to that, which is writing and writing communities. And this is, it occupies sort of a unique space and we talk about this in the episode, but needing to set an establish and maintain boundaries for yourself is a crucial part of being successful in the life and process of being a writer.
    Rekka (00:02:01):
    And not just successful but also healthy.
    Kaelyn (00:02:03):
    Yes. Successful and healthy. Exactly. So, um, once again, we had a great time sitting down talking to Miri. Um, she was again allowed to leave. Despite our best efforts.
    Rekka (00:0

    • 1 hr 20 min

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