60 episodes

SUNSfan & syndereN tackle tough issues in the esports realm, with an emphasis on Dota 2. They also talk about a lot of random crap.

We Say Things - an esports and Dota podcast with SUNSfan & syndereN SUNSfan & syndereN

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    • 5.0, 143 Ratings

SUNSfan & syndereN tackle tough issues in the esports realm, with an emphasis on Dota 2. They also talk about a lot of random crap.

    The episode about sexual harassment and assault in gaming - with guest Sajedene

    The episode about sexual harassment and assault in gaming - with guest Sajedene

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Start
    01:33 Intro to Sajedene
    04:55 Other gaming communities with similar movements
    08:30 Run down of the major stories
    14:00 Why does it take so long for stories to come out?
    33:17 Power dynamics
    42:12 Opposing viewpoints (cultural differences & hero worship)
    1:01:40 Addressing fears (cancel culture & innocent until proven guilty)
    1:17:28 The future
    1:27:20 Reckful
    1:36:24 Sajedene's Hollywood stories
    1:41:02 In Bruges Weekly Question

    • 1 hr 42 min
    The episode where heroes are completely reworked

    The episode where heroes are completely reworked

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Start
    01:50 Announcement
    03:42 Addendum to last week
    06:30 Beyond Epic League results
    16:54 TI Prizepool
    28:19 7.27
    57:31 Artifact
    58:31 Dr. Disrespect
    1:04:54 Trump banned from twitch
    1:08:25 Hero reworks
    1:21:21 In Bruges Weekly Question

    • 1 hr 21 min
    The episode about harassment in Dota

    The episode about harassment in Dota

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Start
    02:37 POG with Friends
    04:05 DMCA followup
    06:06 Sexual harassment
    29:00 Beyond Epic Dota tournament
    31:14 Team Plus One match fixing
    33:45 Dota Coordinator Issues
    35:48 Collector's Cache update
    38:26 Artifact
    45:10 Valorant Ranks
    46:09 Mixer
    54:12 Mailbag
    1:00:46 In Bruges Weekly Question

    • 1 hr 1 min
    The episode where villainous Valve takes bribes from Saudi Arabian prince

    The episode where villainous Valve takes bribes from Saudi Arabian prince

    Timestamps:
    03:22 NBA
    08:40 Blast Bounty Hunt
    12:20 QoP Arcana
    19:10 Icefrog posts
    32:34 Bad Language detector
    35:18 Workshop Drama
    54:12 Artifact 2
    1:02:31 Twitch Copyright update
    1:09:14 PS5
    1:14:01 Mailbag
    1:20:27 In Bruges Weekly Question

    • 1 hr 20 min
    The episode where we rate the greatest players of all time

    The episode where we rate the greatest players of all time

    Timestamps:
    04:06 NBA
    08:55 Valve removes Sideshop...kind of
    21:20 Collector's Cache Battlepass Vote
    37:53 ESL forfeits Nigma
    44:04 Artifact 2.0
    58:08 Twitch Music copyright
    1:11:50 Top Dota players of all time (mailbag)
    1:27:00 Top NBA players of all time (mailbag)
    1:30:32 In Bruges Weekly Question

    • 1 hr 30 min
    The episode where everyone hates the Battle Pass

    The episode where everyone hates the Battle Pass

    Topics (Timestamps thanks to Patreon unlock):
    00:50 Racism
    09:10 NBA
    10:34 POG
    14:50 Battlepass Hate
    50:07 Artifact 2.0
    57:11 Valorant Release
    1:04:59 SpaceX
    1:10:12 Mailbag
    1:13:50 In Bruges Weekly Question

    • 1 hr 14 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
143 Ratings

143 Ratings

studwalker ,

Best DotA 2 podcast

Been listening a while now. Love the patch episodes and the interviews the most. I like basketball too so it's always hilarious when SUNSfan brings it up on a DotA podcast.

Tomi Fischer ,

A Passionate Plea

I’ve been playing dota for over 15 years and am a big fan of Sunsfan and Synd. I’ve watched We Say Things pretty consistently since episode 12 about a year ago. This podcast has so much potential, but it has declined in quality over the last few months. If you read this and care (maybe you won’t!) here’s why the show is at a 2-star right now.

Prep work! Every week it feels like Sunsfan gets the topics together to be discussed, does a little prep work, and then Synd wakes up, rolls out of bed, and looks over the topics for the first time ever. The topics y’all discuss are great, but when Synd is supposed to bring the good analysis and he hasn’t even watched the games being discussed it’s kind of frustrating. Last week the Nigma disconnect happened and you guys didn’t know which series it was, who won the series, or whether gh played the series after forfeiting game 1.

Too long! It wouldn’t hurt to cut down on some of the stuff that make these episodes go long. The material could easily be cut down to 45 minute episodes if you stick to talking about what you want to talk about, but there are moments like last week where you did a sound check after starting your recording where you could just cut that out. The long intros are unnecessary. This goes back to prep work as well, if you know exactly what you’ll be talking about and what you want to say you can push through the topics more efficiently.

Have an opinion. There are too many times when watching I feel like you’re just talking to talk. This may be another point that goes back to prep work, but if you do the research ahead of time you don’t find yourself talking about topics you’re not informed on and can have an opinion on it. Maybe this is a dota thing where because things change so much you don’t want to have an opinion that may look dated in a few weeks or something, but just hearing you bring up topics and talk theoretical about them isn’t very fun to listen to personally.

Lastly, WHY DID YOU RUSH SYND THROUGH A TOP PLAYERS IN DOTA CONVO?! Just save that for when you can prep and give an honest answer with reasons to back it up. It’s probably the most interesting discussion to have involving pro dota and you guys spent 16 minutes on it, half of which was Sunsfan trying to rush Synd’s thought process. Do you look at these questions beforehand? I would happily sit through an hour and a half discussion on the topic, or read an article like how Suns used to do the Aghs rankings.

Hoping you take these criticisms into consideration. I genuinely enjoy you both and think you have an amazing podcast on your hands, just hate to see you let it fall to the wayside due to lack of interest/organization.

harhshahahs ,

I love you guys and this podcast but....

It’s drives me nuts. And it’s happened more then once. When you guys start to talk about a recent tournament and then you ask did you watch? You both say no and laugh about it. How can you guys be in this Dota2 scene and not watch these games. And pls for the love of god if you don’t watch. Don’t have a segment on it. And come up with opinions based on what you read and or just looked up the scores/drafts of the games. If you’re not gonna watch don’t talk about it at all. I feel like you guys should be a little embarrassed that you are not taking the time to watch the few events Dota has throughout the year.Its not like they are on all the time. I might be over reacting to this but I listen to this podcast bc I like you guys and want to hear your opinions on the Dota2 scene and when you guys chuckle and say no I didn’t watch like it’s no big deal It bums me out. I feel like this an area you two can get better at.

PS
Don’t worry even tho this made me mad and I stopped the podcast to write this. I’ll still be supporting you guys in the future. Just do better ;)

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