156 episodes

NYT bestselling author of Impossible Odds, Jessica Buchanan, along with fellow writer Jessica Kidwell, attempt to unpack the uncomfortable topics that nobody is talking about, but definitely should. With intention to hold real, authentic, conversation about EVERYTHING, the Two Jess(es) bring their humor and a healthy dose of self-deprecation to the table as they unpack issues relating to PTSD, grief, imposter syndrome, body image, middle age, the plight of the working mom and more.

We Should Talk About That Jessica Buchanan and Jessica Kidwell

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.9 • 172 Ratings

NYT bestselling author of Impossible Odds, Jessica Buchanan, along with fellow writer Jessica Kidwell, attempt to unpack the uncomfortable topics that nobody is talking about, but definitely should. With intention to hold real, authentic, conversation about EVERYTHING, the Two Jess(es) bring their humor and a healthy dose of self-deprecation to the table as they unpack issues relating to PTSD, grief, imposter syndrome, body image, middle age, the plight of the working mom and more.

    We Should Talk About Changing the Game in Youth Sports with John O' Sullivan

    We Should Talk About Changing the Game in Youth Sports with John O' Sullivan

    John O' Sullivan is the founder of Changing the Game Project (https://changingthegameproject.com/) an organization that was created to ensure that we return youth sports to our children, and put the ‘play’ back in ‘play ball.’  In this episode, John talks with Jess and Jess about the real need to provide the most influential adults in our children’s lives – their parents and coaches – with the information and resources they need to make sports a healthy, positive, and rewarding experience for their children, and their whole family.  John explains that parenting and coaching young athletes is an art, not a science, and how we need to look at sports as something that should be child led and fun, not an extension of our own self worth and accomplishments.
    At a time when recreational sports have reached a competition level that is unprecedented. John implores parents to allow space for actual enjoyment, not accomplishment, for our kids.

    Meet John!
    John O'Sullivan is the Founder of the Changing the Game project and host of the Way of Champions Podcast. He is the author of 2 #1 bestselling books, Changing the Game: The Parents Guide to Raising Happy, High Performing Athletes and Giving Youth Sports back to our Kids, and Every Moment Matters: How the World's Best Coaches Inspire Their Athletes and Build Championship Teams. John consults with organizations across the globe, including the US Olympic Committee, USA Swimming, US Soccer, Ireland Rugby, Australian Rugby League, and many others, and his work has appeared in TedX Talks, CNN, ESPN,
    Outside Magazine, The Boston Globe, Huffington Post, and many other outlets across the world.

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    • 52 min
    We Should Talk About Mothering as Essential Labor and the Need for Social Change with Author Angela Garbes

    We Should Talk About Mothering as Essential Labor and the Need for Social Change with Author Angela Garbes

    Angela Garbes is the author of the now-classic Like a Mother and her new book, which grew out of her New York Magazine cover story (about how the pandemic was disrupting women’s lives) went viral and was shared by everyone from Melinda Gates to Elizabeth Warren. Angela didn’t want to write another book about motherhood. But during the pandemic, when school and child care center shutdowns left her with nothing to do but mother, she witnessed all her frustrations and racing thoughts about the state of caregiving in America show up in newspapers, on the radio, and in Zoom conversations. During this time, many people came to understand—for the first time or with renewed urgency—that American life is not working for families.
    Angela's next book, Essential Labor, maintains that mothering is not limited to the people who give birth to children; it is not defined by gender. While “mother” is an important identity for many women who still provide the majority of care to children in America, no one cares for children entirely on their own. The pandemic revealed that mothering is some of the only truly essential work humans do. Without people to care for our children, we are lost. Garbes explores our history of care and how we got to where we are today: a wealthy country with an invaluable work force of women, most of them brown and black, performing our most important work for free or at poverty wages.
    Jess and Jess have so many questions for Angela- and she has answers....but in typical WeSTAT fashion, there are some incredibly vulnerable moments in this conversation as the three women explore what work is, what mothering is, and how we marry the two.

    **Angela's book, Essential Labor, goes on sale May 10, 2022.
    https://www.amazon.com/Essential-Labor-Mothering-Social-Change-ebook/dp/B09C64HQWW

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    • 52 min
    A Conversation on Fertility, Creating Art and Recycling Pain with Bestselling Author and Podcast Host, Elizabeth Day

    A Conversation on Fertility, Creating Art and Recycling Pain with Bestselling Author and Podcast Host, Elizabeth Day

    Marisa and Jake are a perfect couple. And Kate, their new lodger, is the perfect roommate—and not just because her rent payments will give them the income they need to start trying for the baby of their dreams. But no one is truly perfect. Kate doesn’t seem to care much about personal boundaries and can occasionally seem overly-familiar with Jake. But Marisa doesn’t let it concern her, knowing that soon Kate will be gone, and it will just be her, Jake, and their future baby.
    Conceiving a baby is easier said than done, though, and Jake and Marisa’s relationship is put to the test through months of fertility treatments and false starts. To make matters worse, Kate’s boundary-pushing turns into an all-out obsession—with Jake, with Marisa, and with their future child. In her quest to find out who Kate really is, Marisa might destroy everything she’s worked so hard to create—her perfect romance, her perfect family, and her perfect self.
    When Elizabeth Day set out to write MAGPIE after her own experiences with IVF and miscarriages, she noticed that stories of fertility and the struggles women go through to become mothers weren’t represented in accessible literary fiction. With this novel, Day discusses topics of IVF and motherhood, all through a fast-paced, page turning summer read.
    Jess and Jess get the chance to talk to this ever talented author about what it means to navigate the tumultuous and unpredictable world of fertility and what it means to create something lasting, bringing forth into it's existence when there might have only been absence.

    Meet Elizabeth!
    Elizabeth Day is an award-winning author and broadcaster based in the UK. Her chart-topping podcast, How to Fail, is a celebration of the things that haven’t gone right. Guests have included Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Gloria Steinem, Andrew Scott, Lily Allen, Mabel, Kazuo Ishiguro, and Malcolm Gladwell. It won the Rising Star Award at the 2019 British Podcast Awards. Elizabeth is the author of the novel The Party, which was published in the US in 2017.
     



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    • 49 min
    We Should Talk About The Science of Stuck and How to Get Unstuck with Trauma Therapist and Author, Britt Frank

    We Should Talk About The Science of Stuck and How to Get Unstuck with Trauma Therapist and Author, Britt Frank

    Britt Frank was a drug addict (she's smoked meth out of lightbulbs!), love addict, codependent, borderline personality disordered, clinically depressed, eating disordered and anxious hot mess of a human—despite having degrees and lots of letters after her name, she knows what it’s like to be stuck. 
    In this episode, Britt sits down with The Two Jess(es) and explains the process of how celebrating the tiny little "yeses" in our every day is what we need to focus on as we decide we are ready to move from stuck to thriving. She also drops a truth bomb, which is super hard for Jess B to hear. 
    Meet Britt!
    Britt Frank, MSW, LSCSW, SEP is a clinician, educator and trauma
    specialist. She speaks and writes widely about the mental health myths that
    keep us stuck and stressed. Britt received her BA from Duke University and
    her MSW from the University of Kansas, where she later became an award-
    winning adjunct professor. She is a Somatic Experiencing Practitioner and
    Level 3 trained in the Internal Family Systems therapeutic model. Britt was
    a primary therapist at a drug and alcohol treatment center, an inpatient
    therapist at a children’s psychiatric hospital, and now owns a private
    practice. You can find Britt on Instagram @brittfrank or on her
    website www.scienceofstuck.com.
     


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    • 52 min
    A Conversation on Gun Violence with "Last Day" Podcast Host, Stephanie Wittels Wachs

    A Conversation on Gun Violence with "Last Day" Podcast Host, Stephanie Wittels Wachs

    The Two Jesses, prior to this conversation with Stephanie Wittels Wachs, would have both told you guns are bad. Full stop. But Stephanie has traveled from Montana to Atlanta in search of answers- and they have left her with more questions, and an anger for the system that has pitted us against each other, in a place with zero social net to take care of those who need support with mental health.

    Throughout the interviews Stephanie holds with the families who have been changed fundamentally by a gun ending the life of their loved ones, she wonders about the purpose of a gun- and whether or not the gun, in and of itself, is fundamentally bad. 

    An important conversation, clarifying, and really smart. Check out Stephanie on https://lemonadamedia.com/show/lastday/ to learn more about her work around the opioid epidemic, gun violence and how we can help support the mental health crisis that is taking place in America.



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    • 50 min
    We Should Talk About WHY there are NO Girls on the Internet with Podcaster Bridget Todd

    We Should Talk About WHY there are NO Girls on the Internet with Podcaster Bridget Todd

    Award winning podcaster, Bridget Todd, sits down with The Two Jess(es) to talk about how marginalized people show up online, and how disinformation (purposely spreading incorrect information to further one's agenda) and misinformation (spreading inaccurate information with no intention of causing harm) is really a racial, gender, justice and democratic issue.

    Bridget created her critically acclaimed podcast, “There Are No Girls On The Internet” to explore how marginalized people show up online in response to the lack of diversity in conversations around social media platforms and misinformation.  There is no shortage of conversation points as Bridget shares openly about her own experiences with dis- & mis- information as a woman, and particular a woman of color.  Bridget shares about what it means to be a good steward of the internet and how critically important it is to us as a society to slow down, take a beat, and ownership considering what could be true and what could be false, and how we share both with our communities.

    Meet Bridget!

    Bridget Todd is a frequently cited expert, trainer, and speaker on combating disinformation, conspiracy theories, and extremism online advocating for social media platform accountability. Creating safer digital experiences for women and other marginalized people as well as celebrating and amplifying marginalized people’s contributions to tech and the internet is what caused Bridget to create her critically acclaimed podcast There Are No Girls on the Internet to explore how marginalized people show up online in response to the lack of inclusion in conversations around the internet. 






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Customer Reviews

4.9 out of 5
172 Ratings

172 Ratings

Unwined AVA ,

Enriching!

The lengths that the two Jess’s go to in order to bring individuals together, tell personal stories, and create communities is absolutely amazing, and oh-so enjoyable for the listener.
I’m grateful for every introduction and admire that no topic is too scary or off limits. If it impacts anyone, anywhere, it’s valued in this space. Love, love!

elle_dale ,

Talking about what needs to be…talked about!

Each Jess brings their own uniquenesses, insight, wisdom and honesty to these much needed conversations. I love WeSTAT and will forever be a fan of this podcast!

Lyssa Seward ,

Thankful for your podcast

These ladies are brilliant, hilarious, and doing important work for our community of wonderful women. Keep it up ladies…I am a listener for life. XO Lyssa

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