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Opinion and analysis of Oklahoma Sooners football from the viewpoints of a local media member and an OU fan living outside The Sooner State. New episodes every Thursday during football season.

West of Everest: An Oklahoma Football Podcast Lee & Grant Benson

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Opinion and analysis of Oklahoma Sooners football from the viewpoints of a local media member and an OU fan living outside The Sooner State. New episodes every Thursday during football season.

    Ep. 231 - Gabriel, Dart, and What's Going on With Caleb Williams?

    Ep. 231 - Gabriel, Dart, and What's Going on With Caleb Williams?

    In the opening take, Lee likes that Brent Venables has added a healthy amount of analysts to his support staff so far. Then Grant joins to talk about Marvin Mims still being on the OU roster, but could he still leave at some point (5:30)? We take a look at OU's wide receivers and the outlook for 2022 (19:10). Grant got some criticism for his initial Dillon Gabriel take on the podcast. Has he changed his mind at all? Lee also wasn't all that excited about Gabriel when he first committed. Lee tells you the perceived strengths and weaknesses he sees in Gabriel (26:00). Grant is still very worried that OU will not be very good in 2022. He also does not expect the defense to be good in 2022. Lee disagrees (52:30). We transition to OU's interest in Jaxson Dart. Lee goes over what he's seen from Dart on tape. Lee thinks there's a good chance OU gets Dart, while Grant doesn't think it's going to happen. This part gets a bit heated when they debate the stability of OU's program. How will Dillon Gabriel being at OU impact Jaxson Dart's decision (59:00)? Mario Williams and Latrell McCutchin are going to USC (1:15:30). Grant tries to explain why he's playing Devil's Advocate on OU's 2022 season (1:19:35). Roy Manning's back to coaching linebackers at USC. Jay Valai gets Gentry Williams locked down plus Lee praises Valai's Alabama corners vs. Georgia (1:30:30). OU's brought in a lot of transfer players lately. Todd Bates is doing work. Lee's more excited about the transfers than Grant. Keeping with the theme of the podcast. We also talk about OU's new defensive staff vs. OU's previous defensive staff (1:36:20). Caleb Williams still has not decided. What if he randomly comes back to OU? Wisconsin is a possibility? Really? Will we know more about Williams' decision by Friday (1:49:00)? | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonNews9

    • 2 hr 1 min
    Ep. 230 - Caleb Williams to the Portal & Dillon Gabriel Commits Mid-Pod

    Ep. 230 - Caleb Williams to the Portal & Dillon Gabriel Commits Mid-Pod

    In the opening take, Grant fears the Caleb Williams transfer portal fallout could lead the Sooners into a very difficult time. Then Lee joins to talk all about Caleb Williams' decision to enter the transfer portal. Joe Castiglione and Brent Venables released a statement. Lee continues to drink the Venables kool-aid, which has him looking at everything in an optimistic way (5:50). Where is Caleb Williams looking to go? It sounds like he's looking for the best place to prep him for the NFL. More on this whole situation not sitting well with Grant (24:40). Was Year 1 with Brent Venables always supposed to be a year without high expectations? Lee always kind of expected to give Venables a pass no matter what (33:00). We find out in the middle of recording that Dillon Gabriel has flipped his commitment from UCLA and has committed to OU. Plenty of immediate reaction to this news (37:40). Okay, should we be concerned by Ole Miss's offensive performance against Baylor (48:20)? Todd Bates is coming to OU which is a massive hire for the Sooners. Also it sounds like OU will be getting Alabama cornerbacks coach Jay Valai (49:50). OU picked up another running back for the 2022 class (54:50). Now we wait to see who else is going to enter the transfer portal (58:15). Grant says this may be the most down in the dumps he's ever been in regards to OU football. And we end with a comment from a listener in regards to our last episode (1:01:30). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonNews9

    • 1 hr 5 min
    Ep. 229 - OU, Stoops Beat Oregon & Caleb Williams is Still Undecided

    Ep. 229 - OU, Stoops Beat Oregon & Caleb Williams is Still Undecided

    In the opening take, Lee regrets a bet he didn't make. Then Grant joins to briefly talk Alabama-Cincinnati as that game kicks off during this recording. Total crossfire on how they think the game will go. Then we get into how cool it was to see Bob Stoops coaching in the Alamo Bowl. Was that the most prepared OU has looked for a game all year? OU ran the ball well and Cale Gundy called a heck of a game (10:30). Kennedy Brooks had a great game. What kind of NFL career will he have? Marvin Mims caught a long TD, Drake Stoops caught a TD and had a cool moment with his dad (21:35). Mario Williams had a TD taken off the board, Eric Gray was very involved. We take this time to rip on Lincoln Riley (29:30). Grant says Caleb Williams was very good and there were some areas that he clearly worked on the last month. Jalil Farooq looked pretty darn good and we take more time to rip Lincoln Riley by talking about Charleston Rambo at Miami (35:40). Grant doesn't think the defense played well at all. We hit on some of the players who stood out. Ultimately we are happy the defense will get a total overhaul under Brent Venables (42:15). Okay let's talk Caleb Williams and his future. Is he gonna leave? Grant's super concerned. Lee's not too worried. They have a spirited discussion (51:10). We share your "3 Word Reviews" from Twitter and Facebook. Topics include players committing to schools based off of coaches vs. the actual school, Stoops handing off his visor to Venables, OU getting revenge on Oregon, Taco Bell, no penalties for players transferring, and wrapping up a super weird OU season (1:20:00). Final thoughts on bowl season so far, Grant's super fired up about mayonnaise, and when our next podcast episode will be (1:40:00). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonNews9

    • 1 hr 46 min
    Ep. 228 - Awaiting Caleb Williams' Decision & Oregon Onside Kick Rants

    Ep. 228 - Awaiting Caleb Williams' Decision & Oregon Onside Kick Rants

    In the opening take, Lee explains why he hopes a decision about Caleb Williams' future comes soon. Then Grant joins to briefly talk about Grant's favorite NFL team the Indianapolis Colts. Since nobody cares about that, we move on to looking back at the OU-Oregon onside kick debacle. We've never talked in depth about this on the show. It's incredible looking back how bad this was (7:40). It's fascinating that the TV broadcast did not think to ask "who recovered the football"? Lee goes back and watches the onside kick and comments on the refs in real time. Grant provides more perspective on what was going through Sooners' fans minds back in 2006 (15:15). Replay review later missed another call that went against OU. Lee rips the officials 15 years later (25:30). What does it say about the Alamo Bowl that the Oregon stuff is the most interesting storyline (28:05)? What's the deal with Caleb Williams? Lee's heard that he still has not made up his mind (34:00). What would Caleb Williams try to accomplish if he transferred? Ohio State and Alabama wouldn't make sense. Sure, he could still go to USC. What about Georgia (37:30)? Grant thinks Williams has to be leaning in some direction at this point. Is Williams holding the team hostage (48:40)? Both OU and Oregon have multiples players out for the Alamo Bowl. We're both pretty comfortable with OU's roster, despite the opt outs and transfers. We're both interested to see how Brian Odom calls the defense and how Cale Gundy calls the offense (59:25). Lee thinks Oregon's interim head coach could be distracted. Meanwhile Bob Stoops is here to win a football game (1:08:30). We share our gut feelings about the Alamo Bowl result (1:16:00). It appears that Jaren Kanak is enrolled at OU. Plus we go over some other possible players who've been rumored to be OU targets (1:18:55). Finally, the guys spotted a WR out of Texas who has zero stars and zero D1 offers. And they don't get it at all. Please someone explain recruiting to us (1:26:05). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonNews9

    • 1 hr 38 min
    Ep. 227 - OU's Puzzling New DC & the 2022 Signing Class

    Ep. 227 - OU's Puzzling New DC & the 2022 Signing Class

    In the opening take, Grant gives his take on OU hiring Ted Roof for the defensive coordinator job. Then Lee joins to talk about the state of the OU football program in the early stages of the Brent Venables era (6:30). Lee goes over what OU's 2022 recruiting class looked like before Lincoln Riley left compared to what it looks like today. We also talk about why we don't get super into National Signing Day (11:00). To further our argument about why we don't get super into NSD, we look back on the absolute bust that was the 2019 OU recruiting class (18:30). We don't normally talk about OU recruits, but since it's signing day we decided to watch some HS tape of a handful of OU's signees. We go over some of the guys on offense that we like including WR Jayden Gibson, OT Jake Taylor, and RB Gavin Sawchuk (22:30). Now over to some of the defensive guys that have gotten a lot of publicity. Both of us aren't all that impressed with LB Kobie McKinzie's HS highlights. Does LB Kip Lewis have more upside? And Grant is excited for Tulsa Union's Jayden Rowe (31:00). Grant doesn't understand how a person like DT Alton Tarber was rated so low given his position and body type (38:20). Lee gives his take on DC Ted Roof and provides a bunch more background on his career and how we got here. It matters that Roof has been a part of a National Championship team... right (40:30)? We were really hoping Venables would bring over elite DL coach Todd Bates from Clemson. Not going to happen. We still don't know OU's full defensive assistant coaching staff (56:45). Who the heck is Thad Turnipseed? Brent Venables sure does love Clemson still, but will one of his Clemson commits come play at OU (1:01:10)? We're still waiting on Caleb Williams. We didn't listen to his appearance on the Jeremiah Hall/Brayden Willis podcast. Sorry (1:08:50). Spencer Rattler and Austin Stogner are off to South Carolina. Has your feelings on Rattler totally changed in the last month or so (1:11:30)? Cale Gundy and Brian Odom will call the plays in the Alamo Bowl. Lee makes it clear why the Alamo Bowl matters. Grant has learned to not read into the results of bowl games. Lee has some push back (1:16:00). This turns into an OU basketball podcast for a little bit as Grant takes a deep dive into Porter Moser's team (1:24:00). We finish up the show trying to figure out the upcoming podcast schedule and we try to figure out if OU should be favored by more than 4.5 points against Oregon? And how forgettable was the Heisman Trophy ceremony (1:31:45)? | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonNews9

    • 1 hr 38 min
    Ep. 226 - Is OU Better Off Now With Brent Venables at the Helm?

    Ep. 226 - Is OU Better Off Now With Brent Venables at the Helm?

    In the opening take, Lee says OU's in a better position now than they were 10 days ago. Then Grant joins to talk about his favorite celebration style (5:45) before we stop messing around and talk about what we think of Brent Venables getting the head coaching job at OU (7:25). Venables addressed "why now" is the time he finally took a head coaching job. What are the chances he's going to be a good coach (14:10)? Lee begins pitching to Grant why he thinks OU is in a better place now compared to when Lincoln Riley left the program. Culture and team identity are important and it's going to chance under Venables (28:35). OU's defense is going to be better under Venables. We're excited to see how some of the current players develop under a new coaching staff (39:00). We pulled a soundbite of Venables talking about his offensive philosophy. We like that Venables is a coach who will tweak and coach game-to-game based on opponent. He also sounds like someone who wants to get the ball to his playmakers as much as possible. Lee also talks about that time the "Freezing Cold Takes" Twitter account got him (51:30). Was halftime during the OU-Georgia Rose Bowl the highest point of OU's Lincoln Riley tenure (1:02:05)? Lee continues his pitch to Grant. OU's offense will take a dip, right? Well... maybe, but also the ceiling could be higher with Venables/Lebby compared to Riley/Grinch (1:06:20). Do we think Caleb Williams is going to stay at OU? OU's got a better shot to win a National Championship in the next 2 years than USC, right (1:18:15)? We give our thoughts on Venables' coaching staff coming together. A lot of the original OU offensive staff sounds like they're staying on (1:26:35). Who the heck is Venables going to bring on as defensive assistants? No Jamar Cain is a bummer. Will anything come out on the Roy Manning/USC recruiting stuff? What's going to happen with Calvin Thibodeaux and Brian Odom (1:32:15)? Who's going to be the defensive coordinator? It's not going to be Mike Stoops is it? Jerry Schmidt is returning to OU. The gang is getting back together -- is that a good, or bad thing? Is OU more injured than other teams (1:42:40)? We do a horrible job of explaining players who have opted out of the Alamo Bowl. We're probably delirious at this point (1:53:00). We read a comment from a long time listener who has a few hot takes about the recent shake up at Oklahoma (1:55:30). Grant tells us which Bowl games he's interested in. He thinks Cincinnati has a shot to beat Alabama (2:05:20). | Like the show on Facebook: @westofeverest | Follow Grant on Twitter: @GrantBenson25 | Follow Lee on Twitter: @LeeBensonNews9

    • 2 hr 12 min

Customer Reviews

4.7 out of 5
160 Ratings

160 Ratings

connor olsonn ,

Awesome

Look forward to this podcast each episode throughout the season. Lee and Grant carry the spirit of OU football extremely well and I enjoy hearing their passion and takes!

DrDave72 ,

Good podcast

This was a good podcast. Leaving dinner very good job and I had some very interesting information. His partner also has some good information but tending to talk to much, and interrupted o too much.. other than that, it was a enjoyable podcast and a good overall summary of the game. New Episode Again a good podcast. These two were very good today in this bye bye week episode. I liked their analysis and commentary, and they workrd well together. Great job!!!

Jan 3, 2022
I’m probably more like Grant, in that I want players who feel like I do about the University. But I don’t think they do anymore. I do agree with Lee that if Caleb leaves OU will find a QB and be fine. I also think you all are putting more on Caleb than on others. Nobody on the team has said what they are doing , because they don’t have to. I believe Caleb will still be here in 2022. He’s done exactly ss he should so don’t give him such a hard time!

Lamont Six No Low ,

West of Everest: An Oklahoma Football Podcast

My favorite OU football podcast. Nice balance of fandom and semi-objective reporting and analysis. I enjoy indulging my OU football passion with Lee and Grant and their "Fire and Ice" vibe.

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