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Dave from the Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Blog interviews the biggest names in fly fishing and fly tying today. He digs out all of the best fly fishing tips and tricks to help you understand how to choose the right gear, find fish, present the fly, discover new patterns and much more. Find out about new rods, lines, techniques, knots, tying tools and unheard of tips along with great stories about life and the times of some of the most knowledgeable guides, shop owners, and fisherman from around the world. Season 1 covers all things steelhead fishing. Better understand topics like spey casting, nymphing vs. swinging flies, intruders, finding fish, conservation and finding new waters. Come join us for the current season and share the stories and great memories told by amazing people.

Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Podcast Dave Stewart

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    • 4.6 • 398 Ratings

Dave from the Wet Fly Swing Fly Fishing Blog interviews the biggest names in fly fishing and fly tying today. He digs out all of the best fly fishing tips and tricks to help you understand how to choose the right gear, find fish, present the fly, discover new patterns and much more. Find out about new rods, lines, techniques, knots, tying tools and unheard of tips along with great stories about life and the times of some of the most knowledgeable guides, shop owners, and fisherman from around the world. Season 1 covers all things steelhead fishing. Better understand topics like spey casting, nymphing vs. swinging flies, intruders, finding fish, conservation and finding new waters. Come join us for the current season and share the stories and great memories told by amazing people.

    Mossy's Fly Shop with Mike Brown - Chinook, Rainbows, and Sockeye Fishing in Alaska

    Mossy's Fly Shop with Mike Brown - Chinook, Rainbows, and Sockeye Fishing in Alaska

    Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/635
    Today we're heading back north to Alaska to find out what the road system has to offer. Not only are we going to talk about where you can find 20 and 30-inch rainbows, but we're going to get Mike's take on why Chinook have taken such a downturn and why this is connected to 30 billion hatchery fish being released up there. We're also gonna talk about swinging for rainbows so you're ready this fall when the game turns on. 
    Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/635
     

    • 58 min
    634 | Fly Fishings Impact on Veterans and Volunteers with AJ Gottschalk from Project Healing Waters

    634 | Fly Fishings Impact on Veterans and Volunteers with AJ Gottschalk from Project Healing Waters

    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/634
     
    Presented By:  Stonefly Nets, TroutRoutes, Togens Fly Shop
     
    In this podcast, Dave talks about In this episode, AJ Gottschalk of Project Healing Waters talks about how their organization helps veterans through fly fishing. But did you know it also benefits volunteers just as much? Today, we’ll explore how their conservation program makes a difference and the opportunities to get involved.
    2:22 - Growing up on Florida's southwest coast, AJ's first memory is getting stuck in the live well of his dad's boat at around age two and a half. He talked about how this memory resurfaced as he watched his own young son, begin to form his first memories.
    4:16 - AJ recalls catching mega snook in Florida but truly fell in love with fly fishing during grad school in Buffalo, New York. Fishing the Great Lakes tributaries, he became an expert in drifting an indicator and later, swinging flies.
    7:05 - AJ shares how he recently enjoyed using the rod for swinging small flies like the Partridge and Orange. He loves this simple yet demanding fly, especially when getting the partridge wrap just right.
    11:15 - AJ continued with sharing his journey to becoming the creative director for Project Healing Waters. He mentioned his first encounter with the organization while working for Allen Fly Fishing, where they donated rods, reels, and hooks for fly tying, which showcased the program's impact.
    13:36 - In 2005, Navy Captain Ed Nicholson founded Project Healing Waters at Walter Reed. He saw disabled veterans struggling and introduced them to fly casting. Now, the organization is nearing its 20th anniversary, continuing to support veterans from all service eras.
    18:40 - AJ is proud to say that Project Healing Waters features diverse programs nationwide, mostly in Denver, Colorado Springs, and the National Capital region.
    20:31 - Check out their website at projecthealingwaters.org. You'll find a locations list to see if there's a program near you. You can connect with a field support specialist, a regional coordinator, or your local program leader to find out when activities like fishing trips, fly tying sessions, or rod building meetings are happening.
    29:57 - AJ highlightend an event that happened at Mosser Creek. Supporters of Project Healing Waters have made a lasting impact. One event that stand out most to him is the gathering of 15 veteran anglers and sponsors in Bridgewater, Virginia, bringing together the local community from Harrisonburg.
    33:53 - AJ shared how his interest in fishing grew from studying archeology in grad school.
    40:31 - AJ begins to explain how for many veterans, their call to serve doesn't end when they leave the military. It's natural for them to continue serving their communities and the natural environment that brings healing.
    50:14 - He then brought up that there are many ways to support Project Healing Waters beyond writing a check. One saying goes, "The best ability is availability," emphasizing the value of donating time.

    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/634
     

    • 57 min
    Next-Gen Angling Boats with Rich Batcheller of Abstract Watercraft - Driftboats vs Rafts, Carbon Fiber, Boats

    Next-Gen Angling Boats with Rich Batcheller of Abstract Watercraft - Driftboats vs Rafts, Carbon Fiber, Boats

    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/633
    Presented By: TroutRoutes
    Today, we're diving into the world of next-generation angling boats with Rich Batcheller from Abstract Watercraft.
    Rich is the brain behind the revolutionary carbon fiber raft. Find out how their design can help eliminate line tangles and redefine rafting, as well as the features that set this boat apart.
    Stay tuned for an insider's look into the future of watercraft with Rich Batcheller.
    Show Notes with Rich Batcheller on Abstract Watercraft. 
    02:28 - Rich's fly fishing journey is greatly influenced by his father. He grew up fishing for sturgeon and salmon on the Willamette River. Today, he enjoys saltwater cutthroat fishing on Bay Bridge Island.
    A quick shoutout to Brian Niska, the host of our In the Bucket Podcast. He recently chatted with Trevor Covich about steelhead fishing. Give it a listen here! 
    Abstract Model 1
    07:54 - Rich describes the Abstract Model 1 as an ultralight, self-bailing carbon
    fiber insert that drops into a whitewater raft.
    He explains how this design makes fishing easier and more efficient. Here are some standout features:
    Ultralight Design: Weighs around 275 pounds, 125–150 pounds lighter than a comparable drift boat.
    Carbon Fiber Insert (Provides a rigid floor and walk-around environment).
    No Traditional Rowing Frame
    Easy to Dismantle
    12:51 - Rich shares their journey in developing this new category of boat, their vision, and the challenges faced.
    17:48 - We explore the idea of selling their unique carbon fiber insert separately for other boat models. Rich acknowledges this possibility, but he mentions their partnership with SOTAR.
    He talks about SOTAR's durability and customer service, noting its lightweight and easy customization options, which align with everything Abstract Watercraft is trying to do.
    Check out our episode with Adam Hudson, where we talk about drift boats versus rafts.
    28:20 - One big thing about their raft is the solid platform you can stand on. It lets you move around easily, which is super helpful when you're fishing or guiding people.
    33:04 - Rich shared about his early career at Klein Bicycles, where he learned a lot about design and engineering from working alongside Gary Klein.
    Looking Forward with Abstract Watercraft
    54:51 - Keep an eye on Abstract Watercraft's Instagram and website for their upcoming official boat launch.
    Rich is excited about this new model featuring integrated rod holders, extra storage, and lightweight carbon fiber materials.

    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/633

    • 59 min
    In The Bucket #7 | April Vokey and Tim Arsenault on Anchored Outdoors and the 2024 Spey-O-Rama Casting Champion

    In The Bucket #7 | April Vokey and Tim Arsenault on Anchored Outdoors and the 2024 Spey-O-Rama Casting Champion

    Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/632
    We have a very informative show coming your way, as I'm speaking with April Vokey from Anchored Outdoors, as well as Spey-O-Rama, world champion spey caster, Tim Arsenault. I've been friends with these two for many years and it's been exciting to watch them thrive as respected professionals in the fly fishing industry. April has her own educational media company, including one of the best podcast shows in the outdoor space. Tim runs a fly shop in Vancouver. He's highly sought after as a spa casting instructor and as his own line company. Today we're gonna talk high-level spey casting performance and gain some insight into the mindset of a successful steel header.
    Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/632

    • 1 hr 48 min
    East Coast Fly Fishing with Derek Hutton - Virginia, Bass, Blue Ridge Mountains

    East Coast Fly Fishing with Derek Hutton - Virginia, Bass, Blue Ridge Mountains

    Show Notes: https://wetflyswing.com/631 
    Presented by: Yellowstone Teton Territory, Togiak River Lodge, FishHound Expeditions, Stonefly Nets
    Sponsors: https://wetflyswing.com/sponsors  
    Today, Derek Hutton from Hutton Fly joins us to talk about East Coast Fly Fishing. If you've ever dreamt of catching that elusive bass, muskie, or trout, then you're in for a real treat.
    In this episode, we'll explore the hidden gems of the East Coast, where you can cast your line and experience the thrill of the catch. Plus, Derek will give us a fascinating comparison between fishing in the iconic Yellowstone and the picturesque Blue Ridge Mountains.
    So grab your gear, sit back, and get ready to jot down some insider tips and tricks.

    Episode Chapters with Derek Hutton on East Coast Fly Fishing
    2:27 - Originally from east Tennessee, Derek grew up fishing with his family on a farm, progressing from farm pond fishing to lake fishing for largemouth bass, and eventually to ultralight spin tackle fishing for smallmouth bass.
    6:38 - Derek's career journey is a blend of his passion for skiing and fishing, which took him from the mountains to the waters. Initially, he worked as a ski instructor at the Grand Targhee Ski Resort, eventually progressing to manage the youth ski program and later becoming the Ski School Manager during the 2008 recession. In 2017, Derek transitioned to focus on his other passion, fishing, and became a full-time traveling guide, working with Wyoming Fish Fly Fishing Guides and WorldCast Anglers.
    12:21 - He talks about how he came to manage the Abaco Lodge in the Bahamas, marking a significant shift from his previous roles in the West. The lodge, however, was devastated by Hurricane Dorian, which marked a challenging period for Derek and his career.
    16:33 - Derek recounts the catastrophic damage, noting that the main lodge building was destroyed by the storm surge and high winds, which were unprecedented in strength.
    25:02 - Derek talks about the challenges he faced in his career, sharing that he juggled multiple jobs, including instructing, night auditing, and various odd jobs to make ends meet.
    27:30 - We delve into the journey and challenges in the professional recreation industry, particularly focusing on fly fishing and skiing. Derek mentions the high attrition rate in the recreation industry and the importance of learning from others who have succeeded. He also mentions several influential figures in the industry.
    30:01 - He describes his operation in Lexington, Virginia, in the Shenandoah Valley between the Blue Ridge Mountains and the Allegheny Highlands. This area is notable for its diverse fisheries, including trout in cold-water streams and smallmouth bass and muskie in the warmer waters.
    40:36 - Their busiest seasons are spring and fall, aligning with activities at the local universities. During these times, most clients are interested in trout fishing, specifically rainbow trout, which is primarily done through walk-in wade fishing in small streams. Bass fishing, on the other hand, is typically done by floating in rivers.
    44:20 - He talks about fishing techniques, specifically for bass, using setups like a big dry fly with a small leech or wooly bugger — a method familiar to many as a dry dropper rig. This technique is effective for catching bass, and he explains the nuances of this approach. We also discuss the "popper bugger" setup.
    48:38 - Derek mentions the Jackson River in Bath and Highland Counties, where one can find rainbow trout over 20 inches, although the typical size ranges from 10 to 14 inches. He also talks about Buffalo Creek and the Jackson River being good spots for brown trout, with some exceeding 20 inches. Derek notes that these large catches are not everyday occurrences.
    54:35 - We talk about the history of Virginia in commemoration of Memorial Day.
    1:00:41 - Derek highlights the prime seasons for different types of fishing, explaining that trout fishing in Virginia

    • 1 hr 15 min
    The Fly Fishing Therapist with Melissa Ceren – TroutRoutes, Colorado, Mental Health

    The Fly Fishing Therapist with Melissa Ceren – TroutRoutes, Colorado, Mental Health

    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/630
    Presented By: TroutRoutes
    Today's episode is one of a kind. We bridge the gap between fly fishing and mental health with Melissa Ceren, the fly fishing therapist. Learn about her distinct approach to mindful fishing, strategies for overcoming imposter syndrome, and practical advice for therapy and angling.
    Find out in this episode how outdoor activities and mental wellness go hand in hand.
    Episode Chapters with Melissa Ceren on The Fly Fishing Therapist
    02:22 - It was Melissa's husband who first took her fly fishing. But her first experience was terrible due to an unfriendly guide.
    Her husband took her to an Alpine lake on her birthday, where she caught her first cutthroat trout. She fell in love with the sport and became a guide at Tumbling Trout within a year of starting fly fishing.
    Melissa's Journey into Counseling
    05:12 - Melissa has been in the counseling and mental health field for about eight years now. It all started when she joined the Suicide and Crisis hotline after high school.
    She later transitioned to leading outdoor outpatient programs for people recovering from substance abuse, focusing on trauma, anxiety, and depression.
    She pursued a master's degree in clinical mental health counseling at Clemson University and has been practicing as a therapist for three years now.
    Tips for Mindful Fishing
    Slow down and appreciate each moment, from catching fish to observing nature.
    Pay attention to your feelings and think about why you are feeling frustrated or disappointed.
    18:17 - Melissa addresses challenges like imposter syndrome and the pressure to perform as a guide, using positive self-talk to build confidence. Challenging negative thoughts can positively influence emotions and behaviors.
    Finding a Therapist
    25:47 - Melissa recommends Psychology Today's website for finding therapists by location, insurance type, and specialty. Here are some of her tips:
    Call multiple therapists to assess their suitability.
    It is important to feel comfortable and supported during initial conversations.
    Don't be discouraged if you don't find the right therapist on your first try. Not every initial match may feel perfect.
    Melissa also mentions crisis lines like the national suicide line and NAMI.
    Fishing Tips from the Fly Fishing Therapist 
    36:54 - Hire a guide if you can afford it.
    Guides know the best spots.
    They have the right gear for rent.
    Watch online videos to improve casting techniques.
    Spend a lot of time on the water to learn from experience.
    Adjust depth to increase your chances of catching fish.
    Learn from mistakes, like losing a fish, and ask for advice on how to improve.

    TroutRoutes
    39:40 - Melissa likes TroutRoutes because it's easy to use and helps find less-fished streams and public access areas. It's especially useful in Colorado, where private property rules are strict. Here are some highlights she mentioned:
    Easy-to-navigate interface.
    Find less-fished streams and rivers.
    Ensures you're on public land.
    Keeps up-to-date land ownership information.
    Shows thousands of access points.
    Show Notes:  https://wetflyswing.com/630
     
     

    • 56 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
398 Ratings

398 Ratings

Soda City Scott ,

A great show with a lot of content

I love the show!

I’d love to hear more warm water species specific episodes like I’ve seen in the past. Bass, panfish, and the like.

Thanks!

Sarge476 ,

My FAVORITE Podcast

Being an avid fly fisher woman and love the diversity of fly fishing for many species, I find Wet Fly Swing Podcast covers it all! From local legends to far away places, this podcast is valuable to me planning trips, catching different species and listening to some VERY interesting and informative fellow fly fishers. Great job Dave and keep up your excellent podcasts!

Fred$-) ,

Lots of great conversations, but ….

It would be really great if your episodes were released more timely. Some conversations are released months after they are recorded.

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