In this episode, Han Jin, the co-founder, and CEO of Lucid joins Murray to discuss the qualities of being a CEO. Han Jin and his partner created Lucid back in 2015, and their company produces software and artificial intelligence. Murray and Han Jin talk about the various characteristics and skills that a CEO should have. He also notes that being a founder and CEO are two very different things. Han Jin tries to differentiate both roles. Afterwhich, he shares his experience and the challenges he faced being both for the past two and a half years.